Talk:The Fame

Update the sales!

The Fame sold 8 million copies until December. MediaTraffic reported +1.000.000 copies of THE FAME (MONSTER) on this 2010, plus 300.000 of the EP released only on the US. The Fame has sold 9.5 million copies to date.--HC 5555 (talk) 01:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Media-traffic is an unreliable source with dubious methodology. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:31, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

http://blogs.timeslive.co.za/beautifulyoungthings/2010/03/11/lady-gaga-goes-diamond-now-akon-is-ready-to-retire/ is this the moment to put over ten milion copies? AriandaGAGA (talk) 11:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

No, the article cites a twitter report. Grossly unreliable. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

U.S certification

The claim being made is that she sold 10 million Copies in the U.S alone. That's not true. The album isn't certified for 10x Million sales in the U.S..perhaps World Wide but not in the U.S. The RIAA link doens't prove anything either. and the Certification isn't listed under the RIAA searchable database for diamond albums MRGQ (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Likewise, there's no certifying body for worldwide sales, so even though the album may have sold 10 million copies worldwide, it can't be described as "certified diamond" until RIAA, IFPI, or a similar body gives it the award. —C.Fred (talk) 22:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Diamond certification

Given the parade of IPs adding the bogus diamond certification to the article, is it time to semi-protect the page? —C.Fred (talk) 02:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please! This page should be locked. The amount of vandalism is just getting ridiculous. BionicExperiment (talk) 23:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

The Fame CORRECT Certification

The fame is now certified 3x Platinum in the US as of Febuary 2010, and the Fame Monster Platinum. How come nobody updated this? Last time I checked it said the Fame was 2x Platinum and Fame Monster was Gold. Do your research guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keepwritingkeepdreaming (talk • contribs) 05:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

As of the last time I checked the source, The Fame was only listed as 2× Platinum. So if it's changed, it's been in the last 24 hours. —C.Fred (talk) 05:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure when the certification was posted to the database, but it's dated 3 March. So, the certification was only awarded within the last 72 hours. At any rate, the RIAA database does now say 3× Platinum, so the article should say it as well. —C.Fred (talk) 05:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Previous Album

It may not be worth its own article, but she did have an album as Stefani (before she was Lady Gaga) called "Red and Blue". Should this be added to her album chronology?--Arathun (talk) 17:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

No. What would the normal readers get from it? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Uk top spot again ...

control here ... we must add incumbent on uk n one album http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a209894/lady-gaga-reclaims-uk-album-top-spot.html AriandaGAGA —Preceding unsigned comment added by AriandaGAGA (talk • contribs) 19:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Genre Update

I found an article on Nu-Soul Magazine that states "Lady Gaga" would be more in the Dance-pop and Electronica genre rather than just Dance genre by itself. Here is the source -- http://blog.nu-soulmag.com/?p=987 Sprite7868 (talk) 01:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

10 milions of copies ...

http://www.ncbuy.com/news/20100226/0-lady-gaga-sells-over-10-million.html WTF is this? 8 milions? this referrence is 2009 now we are in 2010 whit more sales sold and the fame has sold more than ten milions of copies! AriandaGAGA (talk) 17:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

The problem is that, fundamentally, that's a self-published source. "Her debut album, 'The Fame,' has sold over 10 million copies worldwide, she announced today on her Twitter."^{[emphasis added]} While the sources for 8 million cited in the article might be old, they're independent. If Billboard, MTV, or the like state she's sold 10 million, then I'm all for updating, but not on the basis of a tweet. —C.Fred (talk) 17:55, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Twitter and other unreliable sources Cannot be used for the article. Neither can assumption of speculation. If you have a reliable source stating 10 it will be added.--PeterGriffin • Talk 18:30, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3iceae27f23a68f24bec91f733983f384c european hot 100 album the fame number one and european hot 100 singles telephone! you must add this european top 100 albums! http://www.rnbjunk.com/the-fame-disco-di-diamante-per-lady-gaga-191/ can this be ok to say she sells 10 milion of copies? AriandaGAGA (talk) 18:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

On the surface, I'd say no. Anything that repeats the false "diamond certification" claim is suspect in my book. —C.Fred (talk) 19:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

http://celebrifi.com/gossip/ohnotheydidnt-THE-FAME-SELLS-10-MILLON-COPIES-A-major-2116166.html and this?AriandaGAGA (talk) 19:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

Nope. Blogs are not reliable, and the source of the celebrifi.com article is a LiveJournal posting, which cites Gaga's tweet. —C.Fred (talk) 19:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

http://www.zimbio.com/Lady+Gaga/articles/-V9rsvHFdTX/Lady+Gaga+sells+10+000+054+Album+Copies+Certified and this? AriandaGAGA (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA
http://ladygaga.wikia.com/wiki/The_Fame_(album) and this? AriandaGAGA (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

http://www.interscope.com/artist/news/default.aspx?nid=24795&aid=599&cmnt=1 This comes frome the official interescope site ...AriandaGAGA (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)AriandaGAGA

"Combined, The Fame and The Fame Monster have sold 10 million albums worldwide." It doesn't address how many copies The Fame has sold. —C.Fred (talk) 20:11, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

yes sure ... but think that the fame and the fame monster in a lot of countries are the same album (Uk,new zeland,australia,...) this means the fame has sold 10 milions of copies AriandaGAGA (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)AriandaGAGA

Quite the contrary: The Fame Monster is a separate release in a lot of countries (USA, New Zealand). The combined total can't be disaggregated into separate totals for Fame and The Fame Monster. —C.Fred (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

http://popawesome.com/music/music-news/lady-gagas-the-fame-goes-diamond/ and this?Is this the right article? I have to work now so I'll not search something until tomorrow ... please say me yes!AriandaGAGA (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

Well, it's got the same bogus diamond certification, so I don't see why that will work. Plus, it's not clear that popawesome has any sort of editorial structure in place as described by WP:RS. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Awards and accolades

I have an Idea ... why don't we create a box of accolades that The Fame have received (ex ... Grammy awards for album of the year and best electronic album ... premio Oje for album of the year american music awards for favourite pop rock album (nominated) billboard year end chart award for best europian top 100 albums?... AriandaGAGA (talk) 18:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC) AriandaGAGA

German charts

It was preceded by the album Schall & Wahn, but it's not a Peter Maffay record, but a Tocotronic album. --92.104.33.44 (talk) 16:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Critical Reception

The chart which lists reviews for "The Fame" incorrectly lists Entertainment Weekly's grade as an "A-". Entertainment Weekly gave the album a "B-". If you follow the link, it even says so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.48.169 (talk) 00:38, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done Yep, the EW review was a B−. The prose said that, but the table was off. That's fixed now. —C.Fred (talk) 00:52, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Paper Gangsta

Paper Gangsta was left out of the track listing. It is track 11, between Boys Boys Boys and Brown Eyes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hschweinlin (talk • contribs) 21:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

On the original US release? Do you have a source for that? —C.Fred (talk) 22:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Loss of worldwide sales in article.

Honestly, there's been an on-going dispute about the actual worldwide figures of "The Fame;" some say that we must be reliant on the previously mentioned eight million sold, while others point out that the figures are more than ten million. Thus far, the only reliable source is the one stating that the album has sold eight million worldwide. I bring this up because, like other major albums, it should be mentioned how well the album has done commercially. So, I think it should be mentioned that "The Fame" has sold at least eight million copies worldwide. Though the source is dated, it's one of the only credible sources providing the evidence of worldwide sales. Drakehottie 12 June 2010, 13:48

Source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1630704/20100128/lady_gaga.jhtml