Talk:Ku Klux Klan

Democrats and Republicans

The Ku Klux Klan was affiliated with the Democratic party and was mostly Democrat until FDR, and still had strong ties to the Democrats until the Civil Rights movement. The reason for this is obvious, the Republicans are the party of Lincoln. There was something in American political history often referred to informally as the party switch, in which the bases of the parties switched due to changing positions on race relations. The KKK was formed during the third party system, we are now in the fifth. At the time the Ku Klux Klan was formed, the Republicans were a Socialist party. They adopted a Labor Theory of Value, which was the major schism in Classical Economics between the Neoclassical economists(who adopted supply and demand) and the Socialists led by Karl Marx. Lincoln himself was influenced by Marx and Americans Henry George and Thomas Paine. This began to shift after the end of Reconstruction.

In no sense do the KKK embrace socialism or any other Far Left stance. 76.180.61.194 (talk) 00:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Right-wing fallacy

The article lists the group as "right-wing" and it's political position as "far right." These, although popular assertions, are both incorrect. The group is certainly racist, prejudicial and bigoted, but it is made up of people from all over the political spectrum. The group doesn't have a political bent that maps onto our over-simplified left v. right model. They are simply xenophobic racists, who otherwise come in all political stripes, from the ultra-conservative, to the ultra-liberal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.236.9 (talk) 14:21, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

And your source for this is...? --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 17:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Déjà vu anyone? Niteshift36 (talk) 18:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I have also debated this point and was slandered during the debate. When I brought it to Wikipedia attention they did nothing about the attack even know they were in agreement that i was wrongly treated.

But to answer your question Wikipedia officially has a different definition of right wing then what you and I would think of it as. Wikipidia labels right-wing as a reactionary political view more so then economic views. I looked into it and it originates from a communist by the name of Richard Hofstadter that stated the populism is a right-wing reactionary movement. It would seem whatever he said is written in stone as far as Wikipieda is concerned. In other words wikipidia takes the same philosophy as hofstadter with regards to the right/conservatives as victims of character flaws and psychological disorders. I wish I was joking but i have looked into this very carefully.

--OxAO (talk) 23:48, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

179 chapters?

Currently the article twice states that there are approximately 179 extant Klan chapters. Does anyone know where this number comes from? I went over some of the sources and couldn't find it, but I certainly may have missed it. Thanks, ClovisPt (talk) 17:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Etymology

According to Prof. Gladys-Marie Fry of the University of Maryland, "Ku Klux Klan" may derive from Clocletz, the name given the ghost of an Indian chief who was said by slaves to haunt the woods and swamps of northern Alabama. This apparition was, in turn, based on the Cocletz Indian tribe, which was hostile toward black people, and members of which were often employed to hunt down runaway slaves. See, e.g., Philip Dray, At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America, at 40 (Modern Library 2003). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.105.9 (talk) 08:34, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Amish 01, 3 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The KKK page claims the organization has a religion of Protestant and Christian. They burned crosses as the Templars did because it is well known the KKK was founded as a Masonic organization with degrees such as Grand Wizard. Claiming the KKK has a religion of Protestant Christian is in error at best. It would be nice to see the page reflect it's Masonic founding. Some suggest it was founded out of the Knights of the Golden Circle after the Civil War. While Protestants join these they have nothing to do with worship or the Bible. They (KKK & KGC) are political groups similar to LaRaza.

Amish 01 (talk) 22:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide Reliable sources, before anything is changed. CTJF83 pride 05:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

sources about the White Camelia Knights (*not* Kamelia as stated in the article)

http://www.wckkkk.org/

http://media.www.houstonianonline.com/media/storage/paper229/news/2001/11/15/SpecialSection/White.Camilia.Knights.Hold.Rally.In.Conroe-147355.shtml

I wanted to add this info but the article is locked.