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::Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not vandalism. For example adding a controversial personal opinion to an article is not vandalism, although reinserting it despite multiple warnings can be disruptive (however, edits/reverts over a content dispute are never vandalism, see WP:EW). [[Special:Contributions/96.237.170.36|96.237.170.36]] ([[User talk:96.237.170.36|talk]]) 07:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC) |
::Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not vandalism. For example adding a controversial personal opinion to an article is not vandalism, although reinserting it despite multiple warnings can be disruptive (however, edits/reverts over a content dispute are never vandalism, see WP:EW). [[Special:Contributions/96.237.170.36|96.237.170.36]] ([[User talk:96.237.170.36|talk]]) 07:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC) |
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To paraphrase another entry on the Biography RfC page, which fits this case perfectly: I'm attempting to bring NPOV to this article, because I find that nearly every paragraph has a criticism, veiled or stated outright, of the article's subject, and most of the article is written from a critical POV. I see poor writing, poor sources, and all-around bias. I revised the page, and the user responsible for most of the previous content accuses me of vandalism. I tried to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jettparmer discuss it with him] on his user page, but his response is hostility and unsubstantiated claims. He admits to a bias against holistic healthcare, so probably cannot be considered objective enough to apply NPOV to articles on that subject. Since he has already assumed my quest for NPOV means that I have ulterior motives, I'd ask third parties to review this article as a whole and evaluate it. [[Special:Contributions/96.237.170.36|96.237.170.36]] ([[User talk:96.237.170.36|talk]]) 10:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC) |
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NPOV
It's clear that whoever wrote this page has an agenda. Equally clear is that this individual has no personal experience with Cansema--it's all based on hearsay from others with an agenda (such as Quackwatch, which is run by Stephen Barrett, whom a California Appeals Court found "biased and unworthy of credibility." This material has therefore been removed). Having used this product, I've revised this article to reflect a more NPOV.
As I said on the Greg Caton talk page, "Anyone who claims this [that escharotics are harmful] has never tried it or is willfully or ignorantly misrepresenting it. I, among many others, have used it numerous times with no negative consequences. This page includes a letter from Dr. Brian O'Leary, a former astronaut, to the judge in Caton's case, saying the same thing."
Moreover, whoever wrote this page did a bait and switch. The page is ostensibly about Cansema, a branded product, but the author uses it as a platform to attack all escharotics. Except where unavoidable, I've restricted the focus of this page to Cansema, since that's the title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.170.36 (talk) 02:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
- Please do not delete sourced information from this page. Further acts will be considered vandalism. Contributions based upon supported, encyclopedic information are welcome. Jettparmer (talk) 16:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- Your "sourced information" is a thinly veiled attempt to disparage escharotics and Cansema, based on your own biases. 96.237.170.36 (talk) 07:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- The sourced information compies with Wikipedia's standards for verifiabnility WP:RS. Your continued deletions and revisions may be construed as vandalism and need to stop. Additions in a separate section containing unsupported information - ie non-scientific are appropriate. Jettparmer (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Your "sourced information" is a thinly veiled attempt to disparage escharotics and Cansema, based on your own biases. 96.237.170.36 (talk) 07:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Please do not delete sourced information from this page. Further acts will be considered vandalism. Contributions based upon supported, encyclopedic information are welcome. Jettparmer (talk) 16:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Vandalism
Reverted to original post after vandalism from user:Hob53 Jettparmer (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- Your articles on Greg Caton and Cansema do not constitute NPOV and have been reverted. Perhaps you can accept that not everyone shares your negative viewpoint about holistic remedies and manufacturers and would like to hear both sides. You are writing about Caton and Cansema simply on the basis of web research; I have firsthand knowledge. If you want to discuss this, feel free. If the pages are simply reverted again, I will take it up with admin.
- Incidentally, you yourself may wish to review the WP:VAN policy (and be careful whom you accuse of vandalism). The policy says this:
- Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not vandalism. For example adding a controversial personal opinion to an article is not vandalism, although reinserting it despite multiple warnings can be disruptive (however, edits/reverts over a content dispute are never vandalism, see WP:EW). 96.237.170.36 (talk) 07:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
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To paraphrase another entry on the Biography RfC page, which fits this case perfectly: I'm attempting to bring NPOV to this article, because I find that nearly every paragraph has a criticism, veiled or stated outright, of the article's subject, and most of the article is written from a critical POV. I see poor writing, poor sources, and all-around bias. I revised the page, and the user responsible for most of the previous content accuses me of vandalism. I tried to discuss it with him on his user page, but his response is hostility and unsubstantiated claims. He admits to a bias against holistic healthcare, so probably cannot be considered objective enough to apply NPOV to articles on that subject. Since he has already assumed my quest for NPOV means that I have ulterior motives, I'd ask third parties to review this article as a whole and evaluate it. 96.237.170.36 (talk) 10:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
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