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Why was the Mike Ivall bit deleted?

I don't understand. This had been complained about by two hockey bloggers who actually have connections to Ivall, Chris Smith of Icethetics and Johnny Griswold of PuckDrawn. If you look at the two side-by-side, there's no doubt where Larry Smith got his inspiration from. So why did it go away? 24.87.40.201 (talk) 23:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't look like info was deleted, infact there's probably too much info from unrealiable sources (blogs) on what is likely a non-issue. Inspiration doesn't mean copyright infringement, it seems to happen lots in Sports that logos look similar. How many falcons, bulldogs, etc... can you have. The beak is really close but other parts of the logo has drastic differences with the original. Bhockey10 (talk) 22:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that there are many teams using the name Falcons, one has to wonder why a "fighting falcon" needs to be depicted with multicoloured feathers, à la a native American headdress. Complete coincidence? Hard to believe. Oh, wait: Port Huron rotated the image 180 degrees. Completely different logo, except for the beak. Munson66 (talk) 00:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legally yes, despite being the same idea basically, the logo's probably have enough differences to leagally be different logos. Probably the reason by real news media hasn't ran stories-just blogs. Also using the native american headdress a coincidence? yes probably, "There was a Ojibwa reservation in part of the modern area of Port Huron until 1836." (form Port Huron's wikipedia page). Bhockey10 (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're telling me if I turn the Montreal Canadiens' logo on its side, change the colours, and shave the top of the "C", I can call it my own? God damn. 68.145.59.149 (talk) 14:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds exactly like a few existing logos I can think of, see: St. Cloud State University, Trenton Habs, Verdun Junior Canadiens.Bhockey10 (talk) 16:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do we know they dropped the logo? I mean, there's no citation, it hasn't been mentioned on PuckDrawn OR Icethetics, and I can't find references to it online. I'm willing to call this vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.40.201 (talk) 17:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I agree, it was edited last night, so I decided to wait til today and place the no citation tag. But it's still on their website and no mention so I'm leading towards vandalism. if they indeed do it can be reversed. Bhockey10 (talk) 19:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::While I agree that there are many teams using the name Falcons, one has to wonder why a "fighting falcon" needs to be depicted with multicoloured feathers, à la a native American headdress. Complete coincidence? Hard to believe. Oh, wait: Port Huron rotated the image 180 degrees. Completely different logo, except for the beak. [[User:Munson66|Munson66]] ([[User talk:Munson66|talk]]) 00:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
-:::Leagally yes, despite being the same idea basically, the logo's probably have enough differences to leagally be different logos. Probably the reason by real news media hasn't ran stories-just blogs. Also using the native american headdress a coincidence? yes probably, "There was a Ojibwa reservation in part of the modern area of Port Huron until 1836." ''(form Port Huron's wikipedia page)''. [[User:Bhockey10|Bhockey10]] ([[User talk:Bhockey10|talk]]) 19:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
+:::Legally yes, despite being the same idea basically, the logo's probably have enough differences to leagally be different logos. Probably the reason by real news media hasn't ran stories-just blogs. Also using the native american headdress a coincidence? yes probably, "There was a Ojibwa reservation in part of the modern area of Port Huron until 1836." ''(form Port Huron's wikipedia page)''. [[User:Bhockey10|Bhockey10]] ([[User talk:Bhockey10|talk]]) 19:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
-::::You'll forgive me if I don't take the opinion of someone who can't spell "legally" as terribly well-informed. You're telling me if I turn the [[Montreal Canadiens]]' logo on its side, change the colours, and shave the top of the "C", I can call it my own? God damn. [[Special:Contributions/68.145.59.149|68.145.59.149]] ([[User talk:68.145.59.149|talk]]) 14:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
+::::You're telling me if I turn the [[Montreal Canadiens]]' logo on its side, change the colours, and shave the top of the "C", I can call it my own? God damn. [[Special:Contributions/68.145.59.149|68.145.59.149]] ([[User talk:68.145.59.149|talk]]) 14:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
+:::::Sounds exactly like a few existing logos I can think of, see: [[St. Cloud State University]], [[Trenton Habs]], [[Verdun Junior Canadiens]].[[User:Bhockey10|Bhockey10]] ([[User talk:Bhockey10|talk]]) 16:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 How do we know they dropped the logo? I mean, there's no citation, it hasn't been mentioned on PuckDrawn OR Icethetics, and I can't find references to it online. I'm willing to call this vandalism.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.87.40.201|24.87.40.201]] ([[User talk:24.87.40.201|talk]]) 17:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->