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::The CIS is not a sovereign state, therefore not a successor. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 16:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Well, what do you expect from the globalization idiots, who also call Europe a state. They will only STFU when there is only one global country left, that country decides to hate his kind, and he doesn’t have anywhere to flee to anymore. Fuckin’ cattle they are. — [[Special:Contributions/88.77.152.22|88.77.152.22]] ([[User talk:88.77.152.22|talk]]) 21:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
:::Well, what do you expect from the globalization idiots, who also call Europe a state. They will only STFU when there is only one global country left, that country decides to hate his kind, and he doesn’t have anywhere to flee to anymore. Fuckin’ cattle they are. — [[Special:Contributions/88.77.152.22|88.77.152.22]] ([[User talk:88.77.152.22|talk]]) 21:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:::: Yes he DOES have a successor, Since the [[Russia|Russian Federation]] as an entity, and by UN definition, is the international successor (read: replacement) of the USSR, wouldn't that make HIM the successor? |
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== How to keep an NPOV == |
== How to keep an NPOV == |
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Money
How much money does he have? How does Gorbachev make his living? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.101.35.7 (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Accolades and Prizes
It is ironic that a man seen as the cause (inability to prevent the crisis)of fall of USSR was given Nobel peace prize and other prizes..(might have happened prior to dissolution of the Union but is very close to the date of dissolution). Clearly these Nobel prizes are given only for what western europe considers peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.138.120.65 (talk) 10:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Photo
It's not a very good photo of the man. Any chance of a better one? SmokeyTheCat •TALK• 09:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I saw a picture of him taken in 2008. It was on this article and even used for the front picture for some time, but then somebody must have changed it back to the previous picture of Gorbachev and removed the one taken in 2008 from the article. I am not absoluteley sure about this, I'll have to check edit history first.--Mart572 (talk) 04:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Someone keeps putting back the older, fuzzier photo. Please discuss here before replacing the photo again. Rees11 (talk) 21:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Watchlist
Could somebody who cares about this article please watchlist it and watch for vandalism? I just spent about 15 minutes fixing some old stuff that would have taken a few seconds if spotted immediately. (I'm already maintaining several hundred neuroscience articles and don't really want to take on new ones.) Looie496 (talk) 03:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Picture
It is from at least 1993 and it looks like somone turned up a screen grab of him speaking to the USSR from the Kremlin on Soviet TV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duffy2032 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
- Adding to my previous comment (sorry I forgot to sign it), he does speeches at colleges here in the US all the time, theres gotta be a picture of one of those out there instead of this.--Duffy2032 (talk) 14:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
- You would think so but, alas, one has not been found. This is the best solution that we have. Happyme22 (talk) 17:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Was versus is
Normally, on Wikipedia articles, when the lede reads Name was blah blah blah, you know the subject is dead. Gorbachev isn't dead. Maybe "Gorachev is a former... blah blah..."? 66.224.70.106 (talk) 23:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Gorbachev had no successors in his political offices
The CIS is not a sovereign state, therefore not a successor to the USSR. The USSR (in theory) has 15 successors states. GoodDay (talk) 22:57, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
In otherwords: The CIS secretary is not the successor to the USSR General Secretary & the Presidency of Russia is not the successor to the USSR Presidency. GoodDay (talk) 23:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- The Commonwealth of Independent States article says the Creation Agreement (Соглашение) establishes the CIS as a "successor entity" to the USSR. I can't check the source because the web page is 404. But at least here in the US most people would not think of CIS as being the successor to the USSR, and would not consider, say, Russia and Ukraine to be part of the same "state." So I'm fine with this change. Rees11 (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- The CIS is not a sovereign state, therefore not a successor. GoodDay (talk) 16:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, what do you expect from the globalization idiots, who also call Europe a state. They will only STFU when there is only one global country left, that country decides to hate his kind, and he doesn’t have anywhere to flee to anymore. Fuckin’ cattle they are. — 88.77.152.22 (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yes he DOES have a successor, Since the Russian Federation as an entity, and by UN definition, is the international successor (read: replacement) of the USSR, wouldn't that make HIM the successor?
- Well, what do you expect from the globalization idiots, who also call Europe a state. They will only STFU when there is only one global country left, that country decides to hate his kind, and he doesn’t have anywhere to flee to anymore. Fuckin’ cattle they are. — 88.77.152.22 (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
- The CIS is not a sovereign state, therefore not a successor. GoodDay (talk) 16:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
How to keep an NPOV
Given that Gorbachev is generally credited with the move towards democracy, and won the Nobel peace prize etc, it seems to me reasonable, to give a balanced picture, to say much more about his political life in the sixties and seventies. What was his attitude to the Russian interventions in Hungary, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, to the Russian war in Afghanistan etc? Johncmullen1960 (talk) 07:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Bibliography
I may be wrong but I get the impression that all the books quoted are about one particular period in his life, and the only book to talk about his whole life is .... his own autobiography! This needs fixing,IMHO. Johncmullen1960 (talk) 07:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Name
The title says 'Gorbachev', The full name says 'Gorbachyov'. The latter is more accurate (Горбачёв, not Горбачeв). Anyhow, it should be the same everywhere, and clarification should be added to the article under 'Name'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.0.21 (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Please, see Wikipedia:Romanization_of_Russian#People for the Wikipedia convention on this. In brief, "Gorbachev" should be used as this is the form which Gorbachev uses in his English-language works and also the form generally used in the English-language media. Spacepotato (talk) 20:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
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