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READER'S CAUTION

This is a biography of a living, publicly known person. As such, I suggest the sources on this page be triple checked. There are many potential inaccuracies throughout the article. Laurie has written over a dozen books, some of which are autobiographical, all of which are available at most bookstores. Suprisingly, not one of his books are cited in the article when reporting on his education or past. So where did the information come from - someone's internet blog? Is it "Wikipedia reliable" or just some biased drivel from those who don't fully agree with Laurie or his beliefs?

Also, nothing is mentioned about his significant ministry experience prior to establishing Harvest Christian Fellowship - apart from some obscure reference to a small bible study he led over twenty years ago. Laurie didn't simply "walk out of obscurity" and start preaching - let's get some better facts on this guy people! Additionally, nothing tangible is mentioned about his "Harvest Crusades" (i.e. attendence figures, past locations, guest speakers / musicians, etc). We didn't just raise almost 8 million dollars for Wikepedia to bolster our own opinions about someone's faith and qualifications. VERIFIABLE FACTS ONLY PLEASE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.242.1.50 (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Where did Pastor Laurie go to seminary? Does anyone know???

I don't know. A lot of the guys from the "second wave" of the Jesus Movement got pretty extensive OJT. I'm told that that Greg worked a lot with Chuck Smith back in the day.

Not sure it matters. Not sure if a formal education makes a huge difference with regard to ministry. I've seen guys with Seminary training that have no gift (thus no reason) to preach. Greg is gifted - his relevence and work speaks for it itself. knoodelhed 11:50, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He didn't go to seminary. In fact, he doesn't even have a bachelor's degree. He has a few honorary doctorates, but its common knowledge that honorary doctorates (especially from religious institutions) are nothing more than PR tools. Sometimes, they're given out to compel a famous person to make a speech at the doctorate-issuing university; other times, they're given out in an attempt to admit the recipient into the university's crony club. Be that as it may, they're certainly not distributed because of scholastic ability.--71.9.9.13 02:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, Greg Laurie is not deserving of the doctoral academic distinction given that he has not put in any academic work.

Does a leader of a religious group really need any formal training in scripture? Isn't high school enough? --MLSmateo 05:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

As far as I understand it (being a Southern Baptist and married to a youth minister), a preacher only needs to be called by the church to be a pastor (at least in the Baptist faith. Not sure about other faiths. Formal training in scripture is a bonus and something that pastors are encouraged to pursue, but formal training is not a requirement for pastoral work, and an evangelist needs even less of a formal education since an evangelist is primarily concerned with spreading the Gospel according to their faith - which only really needs a bible and (hopefully) an understanding of the bible principles (s)he's evangelizing. Ken Roberts 14:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I wonder how much education some of the early disciples received. Paul wasn't an educated man, yet he shook the world through the Holy Spirit 216.31.211.11 01:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You don't think that someone who has put in countless hours studying to teach the Bible every week has not put in any "academic work". Are you serious??? As far as Paul not being educated, that is incorrect. He was a HIGHLY educated person in his day. However, the point can be made about Peter, John, and the other disciples. Fishermen were certainly not extensively educated in the academic world of their time, but they were still very effective evangelists. The point is, higher education isn't necessary to be good evangelists but that doesn't mean they are not intelligent or put any effort into educating themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.23.185 (talk) 01:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As noted in Acts 23:6, Paul was "... a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee." Since the Pharisee's are the Jewish Priesthood, I would hardly call Paul "uneducated". And as the previous poster noted, Peter would be a better example of an uneducated preacher. Ken Roberts 14:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Campaigning

I've not edited the content of this article, but it used to follow WP:NPOV, WP:BLP and WP:MOS. The version constantly reverted to Harvestlmc (talk · contribs) (apparently affiliated with Laurie's Harvest Crusade based on the username) violates all three. FeloniousMonk 18:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard the previous assistant Pastor at Harvest Paul Havsgaard is getting divorced. Anyone know Laurie's opinion on this and why they are covering it up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.232.157.78 (talk) 12:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary?

Just to get this out of the way first-I'm not affiliated with Greg Laurie or Harvest etc.,but I have to question this following paragraph:'Laurie holds two honorary doctorates from Biola University and Azusa Pacific University, although his education is limited to high school (he has yet to attain a bachelor's degree or attend bible college).' I feel that this section in parentheses is unnecessary.It is already stated that he has only attended high school,so why is it necessary to state it again?Serenacw 09:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is necessary. He did not go to college nor bible college. I agree it is oddly written statement. 71.135.96.73 04:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the point He is trying to make is that although Greg Laurie has a "limited" education He preaches to thousands of people and has become a multimillionaire in the process. Although He is very orthodox in His messages, many criticize His lack of "formal" education and extravagant lifestyle. Que Sera... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.232.157.78 (talk) 14:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Extravagant Lifestyle"? Why do you suppose its "extravagant"? By whose standard? What sources do you cite?

Look, just becuase the man earned good money through his own effort (writing books, guest speaking, etc) dosen't make him better or worse than anyone else. Why do people insist that a Christian needs to be financialy poor in order to be relevant? Did you know that wealthy ministers (assuming Laurie is wealthy, I don't know for sure) usually don't take a salary from thier congregation? They make money from book sales, endorsements, interviews, etc. If you wrote a best seller and made $4 million, would you still live in a dingy apartment and drive a beater car? Why? Nothing extravagant about working hard and being successful at what you do. More power to him... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.242.1.15 (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found this for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle#Christianity

A very clear passage in which Jesus Christ himself states that the rich are, virtually by definition, sinners who are unwelcome in the kingdom of God. Unless they renounce their excessive, unnecessary, worldly possessions in favor of a lifestyle which exists purely to serve the lord without blowing a ton of money on personal bells and whistles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.132.186 (talk) 10:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Extravagant? Not sure, butit IS common knowledge that He: Owns/owned a home overlooking the Pacific Ocean. Owns/owned a Harley-Davidson. Owns/owned a convertible 1957 Chevrolet. Most people I know would be happy to have such things. (Unfortunatly most of us can't/don't) I'd say He has done pretty well for Himself considering His humble beginnings. "Throw a rock into a pack of wild dogs and the one that yelps the loudest is the one that got hit." Still yelping?76.246.235.134 (talk) 01:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How is any of this important? 206.169.15.5 (talk) 22:46, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His name!

It's like Hugh Laurie was crossed with his character Greg House :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.125.223 (talk) 20:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::Does a leader of a religious group really need any formal training in scripture?  Isn't high school enough? [[--]]MLSmateo 05:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
+:::As far as I understand it (being a Southern Baptist and married to a youth minister), a preacher only needs to be called by the church to be a pastor (at least in the Baptist faith. Not sure about other faiths. Formal training in scripture is a bonus and something that pastors are encouraged to pursue, but formal training is not a requirement for pastoral work, and an evangelist needs even less of a formal education since an evangelist is primarily concerned with spreading the Gospel according to their faith - which only really needs a bible and (hopefully) an understanding of the bible principles (s)he's evangelizing. Ken Roberts 14:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 ::::I wonder how much education some of the early disciples received.  Paul wasn't an educated man, yet he shook the world through the Holy Spirit  [[User:216.31.211.11|216.31.211.11]] 01:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 :::::You don't think that someone who has put in countless hours studying to teach the Bible every week has not put in any "academic work".  Are you serious???  As far as Paul not being educated, that is incorrect.  He was a HIGHLY educated person in his day.  However, the point can be made about Peter, John, and the other disciples.  Fishermen were certainly not extensively educated in the academic world of their time, but they were still very effective evangelists.  The point is, higher education isn't necessary to be good evangelists but that doesn't mean they are not intelligent or put any effort into educating themselves.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.241.23.185|71.241.23.185]] ([[User talk:71.241.23.185|talk]]) 01:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:::::As noted in Acts 23:6, Paul was "... a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee." Since the Pharisee's are the Jewish Priesthood, I would hardly call Paul "uneducated". And as the previous poster noted, Peter would be a better example of an uneducated preacher. Ken Roberts 14:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 == Campaigning ==