User talk:Rowland Goodman

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Image credits

Hi -

Just so you know, the Wikipedia Manual of Style has a guideline for crediting the author of an image, at WP:CREDITS:

Unless relevant to the subject, do not credit the image author or copyright holder in the article. It is assumed that this is not necessary to fulfill attribution requirements of the GFDL or Creative Commons licenses as long as the appropriate credit is on the image description page. If the artist or photographer is independently notable, though, then a wikilink to the artist's biography may be appropriate.

I hope that this is not a big problem. Your tennis photographs are amazing and are a great contribution to Wikipedia. :-) Tim Pierce (talk) 20:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

This is a big problem - it is a breach of the copyright conditionRowland Goodman (talk) 20:59, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

This is a little unusual. The photo page provides no specific instructions as to how the photograph should be credited; how would an editor know what the copyright conditions are? Since a photograph on Wikimedia Commons is already part of Wikimedia, it's not being reused or republished when it's added to a Wikipedia article, so it is not generally considered a copyright infringement to do so. Can you say more about what you're concerned about with having the photo credit appear not only on the photo page but also on any page where it appears as a thumbnail? Tim Pierce (talk) 21:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Also, when you released it with that license on the image description page you state that anyone may copy, distribute, or share that image. That includes use on any page on the encyclopedia. Quick question though, if you didn't want it used on Wikipedia than why did you upload it to Commons? Cheers, Mr. R00t ^Talk 21:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

The licence states:

You are free: to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work to remix – to adapt the work Under the following conditions: attribution – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). share alike – If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one. Permission (Reusing this file) Copyright Rowland Charles Goodman; may be used provided copyright attribution is given.

There is nothing unusual about photo credits. Rowland Goodman (talk) 05:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure, there's nothing unusual about photo credits, so the photograph page has your photo credit on it! :-) But if you look around Wikipedia a bit you'll see that individual contribution credits, including photograph credits, just don't appear on the article pages. Wikipedia is understood to be a collaborative work, the result of contributions by thousands of individuals. It's an encyclopedia, not a magazine.

If you're concerned about ensuring that anyone else who would use your photo knows that it's under copyright, it seems to me that anyone who would reuse the photo would not use the thumbnail version on the Wikipedia article, but would click through to the larger version on Commons, where they will see the copyright notice with the precise restrictions. So I still don't see why it's important for the copyright notice to appear on the article page. Can you help me understand? Tim Pierce (talk) 13:01, 20 August 2010 (UTC)