Talk:Wicked (musical)

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WICKED font

The official logotype for Wicked is a font called Rubens. Can anyone find it on a site for free? And does anyone know the clipart for the witch in the "I" ?

Rubens is easy enough to find. Try searching for it in conjunction with The Haunted Mansion or Phantom Manor, as it is the same font used on the plaque of these Disney attractions, and throughout. TR_Wolf

Cast Lists

Why is the original cast not listed out here somewhere? From reading the discussion, it seems like several casts had been listed and since condensed into blobs, but the original cast of a musical is especially important as that is the cast that recorded the soundtrack. I'm going to suggest that the original cast gets a list, and any subsequent or current casts get inline mention at most (that's the way it typically is on most musical wiki pages). SnetskyCM (talk) 03:48, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you. I'll work on it. Thanks for pointing that out. Diligence 5960 (talk) 03:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Verifiability

With the amount of changes that have been made recently to the cast and replacement lists, almost entirely without referencing, I now have very little confidence in the verifiability of the details. I'd like to propose a fairly draconian solution which I think will also ease the problem of cast bloat: I propose that we require a reliable source for every actor mentioned. No source, no mention. Sound viable? Happy‑melon 09:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree I have noticed this too and find it to be very misleading and I also find that sometimes when the issue is corrected it ends up going back to the way it was confusing and disorgainzed. Is there a way we can keep it neat and tidy and easy to find reliable sources without it changing every five minutes? Headstrong 345 (talk) 03:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)Headstrong 345

The best source for the current actors (at least on Broadway) is Playbill. If it's changed in Playbill, it is definitely true.--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire 04:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingdude88 (talk • contribs)

Character ordering & Voice types

1. I couldn't help noticing the characters are in the wrong order. The correct order according to the script is Elphaba, G(a)linda, Nessarose, Fiyero, Boq, Madame Morrible, Wizard, Dr. Dillamond, no other order, so why is the order different here? I also noticed people keep changing the order...why?! About 2 years ago it was in the right order, now its just all over the place.

2. Also on another character related note, in the cast lists page/section why can't we call Elphaba's mother and father by their names: Melena and Frex instead of "Witch's Mother" and "Witch's Father". They have names, use them. To make things clearer we can put something like "Frex (Elphaba's father)" or "Frex (Witch's Father)" to be precise. I mean even this article ITSELF calls them by their names in the Plot Summary.

3. And also the table with the character info lists Boq as a tenor when he's actually a baritone. Also we might need to trim some of his info out, as it's basically explaining his whole story during the musical, just a brief summary is needed like it is for the other characters.

Reply to Number 1: I believe the order should actually be: Elphaba, G(a)linda, Fiyero, Boq, Nessarose, Dr. Dillamond, Madame Morrible, and the Wizard, as that is the character order listed in the Playbill program (with the ensemble in between Nessarose and Morrible & the Wizard).--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire 04:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Reply to Number 2: They are called "Witch's Father" and "Witch's Mother" because those are their names in the official program for Wicked. However, if it's really wanted by many, go ahead and put Melena and Frex in parentheses beside "Mother" and "Father". Wait! You just reminded me of another issue I have: why is the Lover/Suitor NOT listed in any program? He has as much of a role as the Midwife, if not more of one. Hmm.......--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire 04:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Reply to Number 3: Trust me, Boq is a tenor. I've heard the notes he has to sing; they're about as high as Fiyero's. As with the info, I have no opinion regarding that matter.--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire 04:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingdude88 (talk • contribs)

Reply to point 1, I don't really think it matters on the order but the first three should be Elphaba, Galinda and Fiyero. All other parts after that are pretty even.
Reply to point 2,Agree with Wing Dude, as far as im aware the names of the parents are not mentioned in the musical?
Reply to point 3, I think the vocal ranges should be removed, as vocal ranges mean different things to different people. Some say a tenor goes up to a G, whilst others don't class themselves as a tenor until they get the Bflat. The musicals project guidelines also state that vocal ranges should generally not be included To quote

"Vocal ranges: Vocal ranges for musicals articles should generally not be included in character lists unless a consensus of editors working on the article is obtained. Editors may remove the vocal ranges in the absence of such a consensus. For musicals that are similar to operas or operettas, however, such as Candide (operetta), or The Desert Song, it may be useful to include vocal ranges. In these cases, editors working on an article should attempt to reach a consensus and report the consensus on the article talk page."

I do not believe Wicked is one of these cases, and so they should be taken out.Mark E (talk) 10:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Film Adaption

Why was the part about the possible directors cut? It was verifiable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DefyingGravityForGood (talk • contribs) 08:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The source was a blog. It needs to come from a proper news outlet, not just someones blog. Feel free to put it back in if you find one.Mark E (talk) 10:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The Source was Broadway World, not a Blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DefyingGravityForGood (talk • contribs) 19:28, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The link that was given in the citation was to a blog. If it was officially reported on Broadwayworld, feel free to add it back with the source.Mark E (talk) 19:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Please Stop Deleting the Part about the Directors! I sourced it to Broadway World! --DefyingGravityForGood (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I am also wondering too why the directors part was deleted as well. I too have also come across it on broadway world and various sites I highly doubt it is false I have also read about it in magazines that was talking about musicals. I hope people realize that a lot of people post stuff on their blogs from other websites. So I was just curious on how we can tell which is true and not. I mean if you see it on more than one blog plus on a reliable source. Anyone disagree? Headstrong 345 (talk) 02:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)Headstrong 345

Why is there a See also: List of characters in Wicked???

I clicked on this, and it redirected me to the list of characters in the book Wicked. Yet, from the musical to the original book, the characters and plot are extremely different. I don't see why this is here; it could confuse many viewers with the character descriptions and plot. Can I remove it?--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire 15:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingdude88 (talk • contribs) I would Remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DefyingGravityForGood (talk • contribs) 19:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC) I'll wait for more of a consensus to settle this issue.--The Wing Dude, Musical Extraordinaire 19:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

There used to be an article titled "List of characters in Wicked", which contained brief descriptions of the characters in the musical Wicked. That list was merged with the article to which it now directs: "Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West" (see the talk page for that old, now-merged article here: [1]). Its ok with me if anyone wants to delete the see also, it is obsolete. As a matter of fact, I'll do it myself now, being BOLD.JeanColumbia (talk) 19:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)