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I have no intention to plugging my own book and shall remove that reference to a book from my earlier message. I don't know who you are Jezhtwells but I think you are rude and have abused Wikki by labeling this an unclear ramble, this is a serious bit od research and very important to all people in the Netherlands and especially to the Calvin project. You make an accusation that i am plugging a book when I have no intention of doing so and the book will be free anyway so there is no monetary gain involved.ieuan Sant 10:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC) I don't want the article merged until the name has been sorted out.ieuan Sant 10:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ieuan Sant|Ieuan Sant]] ([[User talk:Ieuan Sant|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ieuan Sant|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
I have no intention to plugging my own book and shall remove that reference to a book from my earlier message. I don't know who you are Jezhtwells but I think you are rude and have abused Wikki by labeling this an unclear ramble, this is a serious bit od research and very important to all people in the Netherlands and especially to the Calvin project. You make an accusation that i am plugging a book when I have no intention of doing so and the book will be free anyway so there is no monetary gain involved.ieuan Sant 10:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC) I don't want the article merged until the name has been sorted out.ieuan Sant 10:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ieuan Sant|Ieuan Sant]] ([[User talk:Ieuan Sant|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ieuan Sant|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::OK, you don't want the article merged. That is your opinion, two others disagree so it looks like it will be merged. Both names are used for this person in various sources. Wikipedia guidelines ([[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (proper names)]]) state that ''Redirect pages can insure that all variants lead to the desired article.''[[Wikipedia:Content forking#Redundant content forks]] states: ''Content forking can be unintentional or intentional. While Wikipedia contributors are reminded to check to make sure there is not an existing article on the subject before they start a new article, there is always the chance they will forget, or that they will search in good faith but fail to find an existing article, or simply flesh out a derivative article rather than the main article on a topic. Wikipedia's principle of assume good faith should be kept in mind here. If you suspect a content fork, give the creator of a duplicate article the benefit of the doubt. Check with people who watch the respective articles and participate in talk page discussions to see if the fork was deliberate. If the content fork was unjustified, the more recent article should be merged back into the main article.'' There is clearly no justification for having two articles about the same person with different titles. The naming difference is likely just the difference in naming between Flemish and Wallonian. Now either you can co-operate in the merging by transferring content or not. [[User:Jezhotwells|Jezhotwells]] ([[User talk:Jezhotwells|talk]]) 10:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Hello, I am writing a book on Langeraad's biography of De Bray, and wanted to provide a basic one or two bage synopsis on my completed book based on Van Langeraad's book (copyright has expired for this book and is now in the public domain although I need to give credit to Google books, Google agree that copyright is out and speak of copyleft (a term meaning it is free to use but expect the user to show the courtesy of an acknowledegment without the necessity of writing to Google). I really would like my work to take precedence as I intend to cover the whole of his life and the other entries have been stuck for quite some time. I am using the Dutch name for Guido de Bres as used by Van Langeraad i.e. Guy de Bray. There is very little on the Internet on De Bray and I would like Wikki to be the first enlarged view of this geat man's life and work. He is recognised and very much respected world wide in Reformed churches as a theologian, pastor and martyr. (section removed here ieuan Sant 10:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)) I would like to join the Calvinism projectieuan Sant 20:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)ieuan Sant 20:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ieuan Sant (talk • contribs)
- Yes, there is already an article under Guido de Bres and Guido de Bray will be merged within seven days (see below) - suggest you migrate any useful content to the original article here. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- NOte if your main puprose here is to plug your own book forget it. This encyclopaedia can be edited by anyone and you have no ownership of articles that you create. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I have no intention to plugging my own book and shall remove that reference to a book from my earlier message. I don't know who you are Jezhtwells but I think you are rude and have abused Wikki by labeling this an unclear ramble, this is a serious bit od research and very important to all people in the Netherlands and especially to the Calvin project. You make an accusation that i am plugging a book when I have no intention of doing so and the book will be free anyway so there is no monetary gain involved.ieuan Sant 10:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC) I don't want the article merged until the name has been sorted out.ieuan Sant 10:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ieuan Sant (talk • contribs)
- OK, you don't want the article merged. That is your opinion, two others disagree so it looks like it will be merged. Both names are used for this person in various sources. Wikipedia guidelines (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (proper names)) state that Redirect pages can insure that all variants lead to the desired article.Wikipedia:Content forking#Redundant content forks states: Content forking can be unintentional or intentional. While Wikipedia contributors are reminded to check to make sure there is not an existing article on the subject before they start a new article, there is always the chance they will forget, or that they will search in good faith but fail to find an existing article, or simply flesh out a derivative article rather than the main article on a topic. Wikipedia's principle of assume good faith should be kept in mind here. If you suspect a content fork, give the creator of a duplicate article the benefit of the doubt. Check with people who watch the respective articles and participate in talk page discussions to see if the fork was deliberate. If the content fork was unjustified, the more recent article should be merged back into the main article. There is clearly no justification for having two articles about the same person with different titles. The naming difference is likely just the difference in naming between Flemish and Wallonian. Now either you can co-operate in the merging by transferring content or not. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
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Obviously Guido de Bray has to be merged with this page, as we cannot have two articles about the same person. I propose to merge the content within seven days and then convert this article into a redirect. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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