User talk:Sthenel

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Gymnastikos S. Larissas

Yes Gymnastikos was merged with AEL 1964 but it is the SAME EXACT basketball club. It was Gymnastikos BC the basketball club, which was the basketball club of Gymnastikos athletic association that merged with AEL 1964 FC the football club of the AEL 1964 athletic association to form a new AEL 1964 athletic association that would have a good football club with AEL 1964 FC and a good basketball club with Gymnastikos S. Larissas BC, which was renamed to AEL 1964 BC. Gymanstikos S. Larissas is the same exact team as AEL 1964 BC, just re-named and merged with another athletic union. But it IS the same team there should not be a separate wiki page created for it because it is not a defunct club or a new club, just the same exact one with a different name. Wiki Greek Basketball 10:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

In Reply

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Philhellenism#Pyrros_Dimas

Φilhellenism 00:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I stand corrected, although I would imagine that one would Wikilink to the other, wouldn't it?Arcayne 15:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Sarakatsani and Doric

Hi, please see my comments on Talk:Sarakatsani. Cheers, --Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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Removing of Image

Hello Dear i add image in Gorgo (Sparta) but you removed it [[1]].Yes, I know she is actor but she is representing some one. if you do not agree with me then i can show you other pages in wikipedia those are showing actors as historic persons. As this one [[2]].Khalidkhoso 20:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

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Yasou Sthenel

Apo pou krataei h skoufia sou? :-) NikoSilver 14:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Etsi apla rwthsa mhpws eisai ths diasporas dioti ta Agglika sou fainontai arketa kala. Ki egw apo A8hna eimai, Glyfada. Energopoihse to hlektroniko sou taxydromeio stis protimhseis panw de3ia. ;-) NikoSilver 15:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Hellenism

Is there a reason you are supporting this Original Research fest? Just because people took the time to write something doesn't make it meaningful to wikipedia if it is not a notable academic term, event or person. It is better off as a stub. Guy Montag 18:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I added plenty of discussion on the talk page and it can be found here. I will be happy to discuss anything you believe is worthy of inclusion in the article as long as you have a legitimate reason for its inclusion and that reason conforms to easily confirmed academic findings in the area.

Thanks,

Guy Montag 21:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Vardousia

Ουρέ μπράβο, καλά του 'πις που έπισι έξου η σιλίδα για τα Βαρδούσια. Μωρέ ουλόκληρ' Βαρδούσ' κι να του χάσ'μι! Τώρα θα του βάλου στη θέσ'τ'. -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

FP to pas kala to Blaxiko! Mhpws filodo3eis na anebaseis tis epidoseis sou sta Ellhnika? (kai kat'epektash sto sex?) :-) NikoSilver 19:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

BS as always from this person Sthenel 19:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I was just saying thank you for pointing out that technical problem... Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Me too - Sthenel 20:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I've also merged the two Giona/Gkiona pages for you, I think that's what you wanted, right? (Okay, and I won't do that dialect pastiche again, as you didn't like it... :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Btw, I just didn't get the reason you did this. Anyway! - Sthenel 20:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Εχω καποιες συνδέσεις με αυτήν την περιοχη. Τώρα έβαλα και φωτογραφία, από εκεί που μου τα έμαθαν αυτά ... Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Ναι εννοώ προς τι η ειρωνεία στην αρχή. - Sthenel 21:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Euroleague

Hi, thanks for notifying me. I'm afraid my reaction is not what you have probably hoped for. You were edit-warring, quite blatantly (something like 10 reverts in 2 days?), so I can't help but saying that you were as much at fault as the anon here. I've protected the article and hope you'll both make some effort to work it out on talk, but please note that this might also lead to you both being blocked if the reverting continues. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, when we do page protections we are actually supposed to do them without regard to which version it is that gets protected; it was pure coincidence. As for the other editor being a "guest", as you said, it is actually not the case that his being not logged in gives his opinion less weight than yours. Anon IPs are allowed to edit just like everybody else, and that includes that they have to be taken seriously just like everybody else in editorial disputes. For the same reason, I couldn't have used semi-protection to unilaterally shut him but not you out from the article. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

In friendship

I took the liberty of counting and assessing the labels on your user page. I found out that that you have 21 of those and I agree with 14,5 of them. (Most of the rest relates to the sign of the Zodiac, nationality, languages spoken and religious affiliation). So I think we're more or less on the same track. Nothing I've written has been in a mean spoirit. All the best Io 18:48, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

PS: Corrected spelling. Being the archetypical pedant, I hate it, when I make mistakes like that. All the best Io 18:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm glad too. You're passionate about your language and I'm passionate about mine. The objection I had was the generalization, to which I provided an answer and a counter-example. If I knew more languages I would actually have preferred to take examples from them rather than from Icelandic, just to remove suspicion of bias. As said, glad to make your acquaintance. From your labels, what separates us is the star sign (I'm a Gemini), religion (I'm an agnostic), place of birth, obviously and languages spoken. The 0,5 rating I gave was in regard to the politics label. I believe we're half in agreement there. All the best Io 19:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I looked at our exchanges today, and what separates us are the following entries:

This user comes from Greece: I do not.

This user supports the European Union: I do, but I don't want membership for my country.

This user is an Aries: Gemini.

This user is a member of the Eastern Othodox Church (the same goes for This user is an Eastern Orthodox Christian): Agnostic.

This user is a Social Liberal. I might be, depending on the definition.

As for languages, I speak neither Greek nor French.

All in all, I think we might agree on most things.

I hope you don't take my intrusion too seriously, but I think we have a lot in common. Cheers Io 13:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Fake AEK Athens titles

Kalispera file moy. Kati prepei na ginei me afton ton vlaka pou prosthetei aniparktous titlous stin AEK. Mipws prepei na fonaksoume kapoion administrator i na zitisoume prosorino kleidwma? --KaragouniS 12:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

ok an sinexisei mexri to telos tis evdomadas tha zitisw semiprotection.--KaragouniS 16:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Exei paravei ton Three-revert rule (dld maximum 3 reverts mesa se 24 wres ara thewreitai EDIT WAR). Proeidopoihse ton filika kai an sinexisei tote kalese kapoion admin na paremvei.--KaragouniS 11:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

telika ton vlaka pou evaze fake titlous ton protina gia BLOCK IP kai ton blockaran gia 24 wres. An sinexisei paei gia mina. Opote eimaste ok twra :)--KaragouniS 18:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

user Gon4z

Hi, I just want to let you know, that there has been trouble with user:Gon4z all over wikipedia for nationalistic editing- he usually pushes all numbers regarding Albania up and tries all the time to reduce the strength and power of Serbia and Greece. He showed a really nasty behaviour (insults, 3rr, edit war, unsourced material, user page vandalism, lies, and so on) at the Albanian Military articles ( i.e. Albanian Land Forces Command). Here you can see his talkpage before he blanked it: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gon4z&oldid=128556210#Incorrect_Info.2F3RR_warning He got banned three times in a week for his actions and insults, but hasn’t learned his lesson, as his rude behaviour at the article “Serbian Air Force” and his increasing of all Muslim and Albanian numbers in all kind of articles of the Balkans show. If he insists to edit war with you or begins to insult you let me know and I will dig up the endless complaints about him in the administrator’s board to help you in case you wish to report him on the "Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents". Best Regards noclador 02:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

You are allowed to revert an article only twice a day. Unless you revert vandalism! Then there is no limit. I.e. if you revert (as I did) 5 times a day the $50 billion GDP Gon4z put into Albanian articles, when the correct number (IMF and World Bank) says it is $10 billion, then I'm reverting vandalism and I'm therefore fine. BUT nonetheless, make sure you do state clearly in the articles discussion why you reverted it! Also inform the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR quickly about it! Naturally the best is if you and another editor both revert the article to its correct state: first you, then him, then you, then him,... in this case you have both far less edits then the user whose wrong edits you try to keep out. I hope that I could help :-)

A fresh highlight from Gon4z ramblings in the Islam in Albania article: “The (Kosovo) war had a big influence in the growth of Islam as the world saw that as a Orthodox crusade on the Muslims of Kosova where the Serbian Orthodox people tried to expel all Albanians from Kosova, over 550,000 were forced out of Kosova and 20,000 were murdered, also the backing of the KLA by most Muslim countries and the 3,000 Mujahideen’s who volunteered to fight in Kosova helped widen Islam to the Albanian people.” And if you do not agree with this statement you are a: “God dam retarded Greek or Serbian Albanian hater, that is spreading Anti-Albanian Propaganda.” noclador 08:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I reported Gon4z today to administrator Prodego as he had to deal with Gon4z more than once too. Gon4z is currently editing unsourced material into articles and accuses anyone that does not agree of “vandalism” or “racism”. I think a longer ban is required. You can find my report about Gon4z (and a list of “deeds”) to administrator Prodego here. If you have any negative experiences with Gon4z or an opinion to add I would welcome your contributions. Thanks and best regards noclador 01:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you could go to Prodegos site and confirm my complaints. This will give them more weight and will prolong the duration of a possible ban. Thanks, noclador 09:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I reported Gon4z to the Administrators' noticeboard as I found another large amount of insults he threw at users (i.e. "I can see you an American ASS licker"). Here is the link to the new discussion in which I request that he be banned once and for all, as he clearly is disruptive in everything he does. Please voice your personal complains at the new discussion too, thanks very much noclador 01:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Twelve Olympians

1.)

Hey! Could you please tell me what exactly this "cowardly" in "Aris Ares is the cowardly god of war" means? Thanks! - Sthenel 07:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ares and Athena were the two primary gods of war and battle in Greek mythology. Ares was a bully, a man who was cruel and fought dirty. Athena, on the other hand, stressed honor in battle and the use of tactics. Athena represents the brave warrior, such as in the Medusa story. Ares, on the other hand, represents the soldiers who surround the surrenderers and cut them to pieces once they are helpless. In the Iliad, Ares sneaks down to the battlefield where he attacks with a long lance while invisible and behind the front shield wall of his chosen side. In other myths, Ares bawls and runs when hurt only slightly. Etc. Cratbro 20:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

2.)

Hi! I've studied the Greek mythology a lot and Aris Ares is simply called as "the God of War", not cowardly or anything. If you find him "coward" is another story. - Sthenel 20:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Again, it is "Ares", not "Aris". Ares IS often simply called "the God of War", but at the same time, he is portrayed as a coward. If you want something explicit, see Hesiod's Theogony. Cratbro 20:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

3.)

OK Ares...sorry but I wrote it in Greeklish. The point is that Ares is not called "the cowardly god of war". - Sthenel 20:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Again, see Hesiod. Cratbro 22:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

About the Euroleague pages

Thats the plan...it will take me about a 100 years but that the the plan. the Eurobakset pages needs to be created too sometimes. --ArnoldPettybone 23:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm using this site

http://sathanasias.bravepages.com/b-res/basketball.html

--ArnoldPettybone 23:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Greece national football team box

entaksi den mou fenetai kai kaki idea na valoume ta kalutera apotelesmata tis ethnikis mas se ena box. Vevea an afto to box megalwsei kai allo, tote tha iparxei provlima xwroy. Episis exeis dei enan xrhsth me to nickname "Darth21" ? Mpenei kai vazei kai aftos pseftikous titlous stin selida tis aek kai mallon prepei na einai o idios me ton IP user pou ekane ta idia stin selida tis SuperLeague. Tha tou kanw warning gia na dw pws tha antidrasei.--KaragouniS 10:19, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

xm twra to eida kai to mikrina ligaki giati den to eixe morfopoihsei kala. Kali idea mou fenetai kai afto alla meta to peras twn prokrimatikwn tha afairethei.--KaragouniS 10:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

btw afto pou eides stin talkpage twn arvanitwn einai ena troll poy mas vasanizei edw kai 1.5 xrono. Aftoapokaleitai "DODONA" ;) --KaragouniS 13:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Excellent Work on Euroleague 2005-06

I suggest also making a separate article on that year final four. Just finished the 60-61 season, I also made a box for seasons prior to uleb euroleague. I'l make another one after FIBA reaign later. --ArnoldPettybone 16:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I disagree

You cant underestimate the differences between the two. I'm making them exacly like the european cup\champions cup boxes, with links to one another. the basketball needs two diffrent boxes evan more then the football, they only changed the format. in basketball everything changed, from managing firm, seating arena specs. the works. Also I think I should move all the articles I'v made to a new location discarding the word "season". "FIBA European Champions cup 1957-58" sounds better and it has continuity with the later euroelague articles. --ArnoldPettybone 16:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I'v checked all sort of sport compitions articles

In all of them the article conserning that season competition was in "details", not in the year. FIBA World Championship, Champions league. Its better that way becasue you have to remember that the season is not in one year, and someone not aware of how basketball/soccer operate will get the wrong idea.

Greek diaspora in Egypt

Hi- re. your question [3]; I removed it because Category:Greek Egyptians is already a subcategory of Category:Ethnic groups in Egypt and I also didn't think it made sense to flood the main article on Greeks with categories about the diaspora communities. Ideally, that category should be in an article about Greeks in Egypt specifically, like for example Armenians in Egypt and Italians in Egypt. Alas, there is no article to date about Greeks in Egypt despite a history that goes back even before the Ptolemies, though it would be nice to have one. Most other articles on ethnic groups don't have such a long list of categories of its diasporic communities, esp. those communities that are fairly small. The Egyptian Greek community has been in decline since the 1950s. — Zerida 07:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Why did you edit the euroleague page

I think you know very well that SEF is in pireus, not athens. --ArnoldPettybone 23:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

So does jaffa and Tel Aviv

the first is municipally belongs to TA, but jaffa is a city with its own history and culture. never mind. --ArnoldPettybone 14:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:Athens

I was hoping you could add your name to the WP:COUNCIL/P page to help get WP:Athens into existance. It's just a proposal so far, but I hope more people will add their names. ^{El Greco (talk · contribs)} 22:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Robert Browning

Please be more careful in assessing implications in a language not your own. A literate native speaker of English is quite likely, at any mention of Robert Browning, to at least hesitate over the question of whether it is Robert Browning, who could have studied Byzantium as well as Aristophanes; similarly Captain William Shakespear is never introduced without his title, and usually his regiment. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality

Please read WP:NPOV; we avoid all points of view, not just personal opinions. In fact, collective points of view, like the hostile opinion of Fallmerayer (which I share) are even more assiduously avoided than personal opinion, as less likely to be simply corrected. Please also read the talk page and his article before you cite Carleton S. Coon as a modern authority again. 18:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I've urged including Fallmerayer myself; but Wikipedia doesn't do passages like that. We don't abuse even discredited nineteenth-century racists; WP:NPOV has a section on why we don't abuse Adolf Hitler .(Still less, of course, do we do it by appealing to twentieth-century racists like Coon; if for no other reason, it's unconvincing.)

Accuracy also enters the question. It would be nice if Fallmerayer had in fact been ignored and refuted since 1840, except for the Nazis; but if so, we wouldn't mention him any more than we mention Hans Hörbiger in Moon. His importance lies in the people he did persuade, from Martin P. Nilsson to Edith Hamilton. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I repeat: it's the wording you reverted to that is unacceptable. Go to Talk:Greeks#Carleton_Coon and we can begin working out a mutually acceptable one. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I was, once upon a time, content to tag it. But I do not think it should be restored; it violates policy. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Dimitris Spanoulis?

Do you happen to know anything about the basketball player Dimitris Spanoulis? His article is currently up for deletion. User:ArnoldPettybone referred me to you. Thanks! Zagalejo^ 05:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Greece NT?

What do u mean what are the point of my edits...???? The-real-zeus 18:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Since the NT is banned from playing at Karaiskaki after the Turkey match....The-real-zeus 19:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• UEFA banned the Greek NT from playing there games at Karaiskaki because of the racist banners and fighting after the game....Link as u can see in the link the game is being played at OAKA...!The-real-zeus 19:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• My apology's........The-real-zeus 14:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

A request

Greetings, can you please stop using the popup rollback function when reverting content contributions made in good faith? If you need to revert another contributor, the least thing they deserve is for you to take ten seconds typing out a reason why you're doing it. The popups are really just for reverting vandalism or blatant nonsense. Thanks, Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Greeks

Hello Sthnel, Can you please let me know how do you get to the 19,000,000 Greeks? There are comments in Greeks:discussion and perhaps you can share your info with others.--Marksg 15:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm to correct Diaspora figures as some are outdated and they don't agree with references, then we can sort out Greeks Nos--Marksg (talk) 10:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Dorians

What are you doing to that article if I may ask? You have to scroll all the way now and it looks as rubbish :S Mallerd 13:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalisms

Well, I don't think we can do something about them, at least for now. Their changes are too minor and as a result we cannot have them blocked - and if they use dynamic IPs this will be much more difficult. So, at first we should give them some warnings and if they go on, then we can request blocking . Let's see what will happen ;) --KaragouniS 14:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply

You really think a 4-0 win against a team of Bosnias calibre is a notable victory...common,if you think that you know nothing about football,and i dont i just change it to better english... The-real-zeus 20:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Listen buddy,we scored the final 3 goals in the 80 minute,...if we add the 4-0,we might aswell add the 8-0 (biggest win) over Syria.The-real-zeus 22:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• You seem to be making alot of changes in the NT page...u say 'I dont,I dont ,I dont....,it doesnt all revolve around you....if you dont want something on the page,start a discusion on it...cheers!...The-real-zeus 17:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Question on WPGR

seems like you figured it out. Let me know if you have any more questions on it. --Kimon^talk 17:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

BC or BCE

Hi! In Greeks in Egypt you insist on BCE in the dates. Why, since all the date-articles are written with "BC"? - Sthenel 23:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The compromize has been to favor the status quo. This is because, every time there has been a discussion, opinion and for that mater arguments have been equal for both forms.Dejvid 09:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, to an extent the principle of favoring the status quo doesn't sit well with the principle that no one owns a page. However, once you have a situation where two styles have equal status, favoring the status quo is the only way to avoid edit wars. The same thing applies to the choice between "British" and "US" spelling. As to the argument that it should be BC to avoid redirects, just think thru the implications of applying this. This would either mean the total elimination of BCE or an edit war to change the years back and forth between BC and BCE. What we have is a pragmatic solution to a situation where editors who favor BCE are around equal with those who favor BC. Dejvid 22:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I've re-read what you wrote. If I read you right, you are saying that the disagreement over eras should be fought out on the pages for years. The years are currently stable because those who favor BCE leave them alone. Isn't that desirable?Dejvid 22:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

The policy on eras is not entirely clear and people can honestly disagree with what it means in practice. However, it surely can not mean that all refs to years in articles must point directly to the year. The agreement is that the two forms are equal but to insist on no redirects would wipe out BCE completely. That by no stretch of the imagination is treating the two forms equally. Why do you think the redirect links were implemented?Dejvid 09:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK it was specifically to allow BCE forms but as it will take a little time for me to confirm that I'll drop that argument. My other points however are more important and are clearly valid.Dejvid 09:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Page move

Two points about your move of Greek American. First, article titles should always be singular, per WP:NC. The sole exceptions are terms which can never be used as a singular, such as scissors or trousers. Second, when a new title is appropriate the right way to change a title is to move the page rather than cut and pasting the content into a new article. Moving the page retains the full editing history that is required by the GFDL. If you have any questions let me know. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I see German American and Italian American. If there are some with plural names they should be moved back to the singular. A confusing difference is that categories are always named plurally. So the correct category name is "Category: Greek Americans". Regarding the move over redirect, in those cases the proper thing to do is ask an admin to do it or list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves. If you'd taken that route someone probably would have explained why it doesn't match the naming conventions. Anyway, it was easily fixed so there's no problem. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Olympiacos

I don't understand. Olympiacos, Olympiacos FC and Olympiacos CFP seem to be the same topic. If so shouldn't the articles be merged? Aren't they all about the Olympiakos Syndesmos Filathlon Peiraios? It looks like there should be just one article with some redirects. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 11:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I understand. I've made the move you requested. Could you handle cleaning up the double redirects please? See this page for specific instructions: [4] ·:· Will Beback ·:· 12:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Superleague Greece

• Yeah dude..i put them back up..because we havent decided on anything yet...lets discuss it first then we will see...cant just remove it without duscusing it first....The-real-zeus (talk) 15:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

No

Anyway i see your point.Put rest of Greeks back if you like but i meant nothing like that.It just looked surplus to me.Eagle of Pontus

Gongratulations

For the details you added in Greek championships past seasons.Really great. Eagle of Pontus —Preceding comment was added at 18:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Besa Arvanon edits

Well i understand you delete my edits without mind it , this does not honor you and your intellectual development not mention other important factor , I love Greece as much as you and also Arvanites as strong and honored part of our ethnos people never mind what they call themselves. I am not even appreciated it among my own people for the strong bias misunderstanding exist we are here to change this unreasonable situation that exist among to countries and the same nation--Besa Arvanon (talk) 14:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Derby of the eternal enemies, decorative fair use images

Fair use images such as the Olympiacos and Panathinaikos badges should not be used for decorative purposes, only for illustration on articles for .which a valid fair use rationale is provided for their use. See Wikipedia:Non-free content, hope that helps. WATP ^(talk) • _(contribs) 15:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Olympiacos F.C. season 2007-08

Nice Job mate!!... one question tho...how do you know the attendances..? The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 00:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

• Cheers mate...The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 16:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

FIBA Euroleague 1992-93

Great work done on the FIBA Euroleague 1992-93, fantastic. I think the artical should be moved to another location, because it was called the "European Championship" back then, until the 1996-97 season when it was rebranded again as the FIBA Euroleague until ULEB stepped in. Dont you agree?--ArnoldPettybone (talk) 16:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ethnikos Piraeus

If it could change also the initial title it would be better :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethnikos14 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Very Thanks you :))))))))) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethnikos14 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Arsenal and Chelsea rivalry statistics

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Source

Ela re....were do you get the info on the match statistics and history on the Olympiacos vs Panathinaikos rivaly's...??The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 21:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• Im not 100% fluint in Greek...but is this what you said"You have an Olympiacos-AEK rivalry article ready?"...is that what you said..??The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 21:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• OK man..go ahead and open the article..would be much apreciated..eh was boen in Greece but now live in Republic of Ireland you?The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 23:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• OK cool...let me know when you have open'd it...The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 15:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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Iraklis FC

Hey mate.I put a box with Iraklis performances throughout Greek championship history.I want to highlight the best and worst seasons.But i don't know how.Can you colour the 1983-84 box in blue (our best season) and the 67-68 76-77 96-97 06-07 seasons in red (our worst)? Note:Colour the boxes which show positioning and not the boxes shown the year.--Eagle of Pontus (talk) 14:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

You are the best.Ευχαριστώ πολύ ρε συ.Μπορείς να μου υποδείξεις κάποια σελίδα που να λέει πως μπορούμε να ανεβάσουμε φωτογραφίες στην wiiki? --Eagle of Pontus (talk) 17:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

AEK Rivalry

Did you make it...??The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 20:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

• Done yet..:D..??The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 14:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

AS Ethnikos Olympiakos 1937

Maybe it should be, and I'm sure you know what you're talking about. I'm just not comfortable that this is a speedy deletion candidate. You should probably use WP:PROD, or take it to Articles for deletion instead. Regards, --Canley (talk) 13:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Σχετικα με το αρθρο για τα ντερμπυ ΠΑΟ-ΟΣΦΠ

Βρηκα απο ενα φορουμ και τα αποτελεσματα των αγωνων πριν το 1960. Αν μπορεις φτιαξε και ενα πινακακι να τα βαλεις και αυτα στο αρθρο :)--KaragouniS :  Chat  11:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

ΗΜΕΡΑ.....................ΑΓΩΝΑΣ..............ΣΚΟΡ..........ΣΚΟΡΕΡΣ
1/6/1930..............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ........8-2 ........ΣΥΜΕΩΝΙΔΗΣ(2),ΜΕΣΣΑΡΗΣ(2),ΠΙΕΡΡΑΚΟΣ(2),ΜΗΓΙΑΚΗΣ,Α/Γ
6/15/1930............ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........1-2..........ΜΕΣΣΑΡΗΣ, ΠΙΕΡΡΑΚΟΣ
4/12/1931................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........2-3.........ΜΠΑΛΤΑΣΗΣ,ΤΣΟΛΙΝΑΣ
5/17/1931................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........3-1.........ΝΤΕΛΕΑΝΟ
5/22/1932............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........2-1.........ΡΟΚΚΟΣ, ΤΡΙΑΝΤΑΦΥΛΛΗΣ
6/6/1932.................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ...........1-1........ΧΡΙΣΤΟΔΟΥΛΟΥ
2/12/1933............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ..........3-0.......ΤΡΙΑΝΤΑΦΥΛΛΗΣ, ΠΙΕΡΡΑΚΟΣ,ΣΟΥΡΜΕΛΗΣ
4/22/1933................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ..........0-2.......Α.Α (ΔΙΕΚΟΠΗ ΌΓΩ ΑΚΑΤΑΛΛΗΛ.)
3/11/1934................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ..........1-0
5/6/1934..............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ..........2-1........ΧΡΙΣΤΟΔΟΥΛΟΥ (2)
4/7/1935..............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ..........1-0........ΧΡΙΣΤΟΔΟΥΛΟΥ
5/12/1935.................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........2-0
11/17/1935...........ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........4-1..........ΚΡΗΤΙΚΟΣ, ΜΗΓΙΑΚΗΣ,ΤΡΙΑΝΤΑΦΥΛΛΗΣ(2)
2/16/1936................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ..........6-1...........ΚΡΗΤΙΚΟΣ
4/18/1937.................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........0-1
5/30/1937.................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........2-0..........Α.Α (ΑΠΟΧΩΡΗΣΗ ΛΟΓΩ ΕΠΕΙΣΟΔΙΩΝ)
3/5/1939..................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ..........2-1..........ΚΡΗΤΙΚΟΣ
5/7/1939..................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ..........0-3..........
3/3/1940..............ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........1-4 ..........ΡΕΜΟΥΝΔΟΣ, ΜΠΑΛΤΑΣΗΣ,ΤΡΙΑΝΤΑΦΥΛΛΗΣ(2)
5/19/1940.................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........1-1............ΤΡΙΑΝΤΑΦΥΛΛΗΣ
6/26/1949............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........3-2............ΠΕΤΣΑΝΑΣ(2),ΣΙΜΟΣ
7/10/1949.................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........1-0
5/31/1953................. ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........1-1...........ΑΣΗΜΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
6/21/1953.................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........0-0
6/20/1954..................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........1-1..........ΤΣΙΜΠΟΥΚΙΔΗΣ
6/27/1954..................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........1-1..........ΚΑΖΑΚΟΣ
5/8/1955....................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........0-0
7/17/1955................. ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........2-1............ΑΣΗΜΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
5/23/1956..................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ........1-2.............ΠΕΤΡΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
7/1/1956...................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........0-0
3/17/1957................. ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........2-1.............ΣΟΦΙΑΝΟΣ
7/7/1957...............ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ..........1-0............ΣΟΦΙΑΝΟΣ
4/23/1958..................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........1-1............ΘΕΟΦΑΝΗΣ
7/6/1958...............ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........0-1............ΠΑΝΑΚΗΣ
3/1/1959...................ΟΣΦΠ - ΠΑΟ.........2-0
6/7/1959...................ΠΑΟ - ΟΣΦΠ.........1-2..............ΣΙΑΠΛΟΣ

AΓΩΝΕΣ.....36............ ΝΙΚΕΣ ΟΣΦΠ...16- ....ΝΙΚΕΣ ΠΑΟ..11.....ΙΣΟΠΑΛΙΕΣ 9

Greeks

Could you please have a look at the talk page and tell me what you think? I made some points and I would like to know what other editors think about them. --Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 13:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeia sou Sthenele. I would really appreciate your further contributions to this article so please air your grievances wrt to structure so we can correct them and keep you interested in editing it. I am really keen on getting this to GA and would like your help. Apart from the problem area spotted by George on language and nationalism there is a real need for more in-line citations. FA articles have in the region of 100-120 while ours has only 60 as of now, even after I added about 10. So more citations are needed.Thanks for your time.Xenovatis (talk) 14:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

AEKR

Did you make it yet...or did you give up?The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Εθνικη Ελλαδος

στο ποδοσφαιρο.Λεω να σπασουμε σε συο στηλες το section των προπονητων και των σπουδαιων παικτων του παρελθοντος.Επισης ξερεις αν γινεται να βαλουμε τα ρεκορ του μουντιαλ και του ευρωπιακου διπλα διπλα αντι το ενα πανω στο αλλο;Γιατι το άρθρο ειναι αρκετα μακροσυρτο.--Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 12:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

A1 Ethniki 2007-08

Ρε συ, εβαλα στο bracket των play-offs τις ομαδες αλλα δεν μου τις βγαζει. Μπορεις να ριξεις μια ματια να δεις τι παιζει; Καλο πάσχα :) --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 09:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

greetings

Hello, marry easter for my dear greek orthodox friend. PelasgicMoon (talk) 16:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Alexander the Great

Ρήξε μιά ματιά εδώ σε παρακαλώ: [[5]] --Tsourkpk (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Καί εδώ όποτε μπορέσεις. --Tsourkpk (talk) 01:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

talk:Alexander the Great

In general, civil comments on talk pages are not a problem. While it's annoying to have someone bring up the same objection over and over on a talk page, that's much less of problem than having an editor adding the same material to an article repeatedly. If you don't agree with an editor on a talk page then just let it go. If an editor is distorting consensus, being uncivil, or otherwise disrupting the editing process then I suggest a user RfC may be a good way of bringing editors together to discuss the problematic behavior and to show the subject editor the error of his ways. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Iraklis 93/94

http://www.rsssf.com/tablesg/grk94.html --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 07:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Βασικά τερματίσαμε 6 εκεινη την χρονια.Δυστυχως εψαξα αλλα δεν βρηκα τιποτα.Μπραβο και για την δουλεια σου στην σελιδα του πρωταθληματος.Τα στατιστικα ειναι εξαιρετικα.--Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 18:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Help with an article

Hi there, from what i have seen you have made the articles of Olympiakos and AEK FC 2007-2008 seasons. I started the same article for Panathinaikos but i haven't finished there's much more to be done? Could you give me a hand? I find it hard to complete it all alone. You can find it here. I'd really appreciate if you could help me. Many thanks. Sergiogr (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Near-native

your english may be 'near native', but those were still improvements. you'll never hear a native english speaker refer to a 'footballing' rivalry.this IS the ENGLISH wikipedia.and one noun can't modify another, an adjective can. therefore cultural rivalry is correct. but you know what? the whole article isn't that important. have it your way. Toyokuni3 (talk) 18:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Argead Dynasty

Thank you for your contribution in the Argead Dynasty article. I can not understand why perfetctly good sources were ignored! I did try though to make a compromise. have a look Seleukosa (talk) 18:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Amfissa

Hello!! I saw your message yesterday. Sorry for the delay, I do not have photos from Amfissa. I will try to find some photos and I will contact with you as soon as possible.--geomanjo (talk) 01:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Arvanites GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria and I'm specifically going over all of the "Culture and Society" articles. I have reviewed Arvanites and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are multiple issues that need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left this message on your talk page since you have significantly edited the article (based on using this article history tool). Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix with the assistance of multiple editors. I have also left messages on the talk pages for other editors and a related WikiProject to spread the workload around some. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 02:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I would recommend posting your concerns on the talk page so that those issues can also be addressed when someone wants to consider renominating it as a GA. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 07:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

90210 template

Since I just found out it was you who created it, I wanted to say nice job with this template. --James26 (talk) 23:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

AEK RIvalry

What happend to the AEK-Olympiacos rivalry you were creating...??

(reply to my question ..under the above sentence) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.203.30.22 (talk) 11:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd made it but I lost the archive. So I have to make it again but I don't have much time. - Sthenel (talk) 11:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

ok then..thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.131.44.18 (talk) 17:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Arvanites

Hi, i wonder why did you reverted my edit in Arvanites page? Arvanites are related to Arberesh and Albanians, it is written through all the article and is not in the box. On the other hand, how could there be a chance that Arvanites are related to Arberesh, who are related to Albanians, and Arvanites not to be related. All the sources in the article back this. Best wishes. balkanian (talk) 20:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Mirela Manjani

Mirela Manjani is the record holder of Albania, she has been 9 times Albanian Champion, so it is apropriate. balkanian (talk) 17:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely not. She was not just born in Albania, she played, was a champion, and is the current record holder of Albania. You cannot say in the intro that she has played for Albania half of her carrier, 9 championships, and a record, which is still in use. balkanian (talk) 18:18, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that is better to put in the main article, when and where she was born, and to add her carrier. She is an athlete, it is more important to add info about her carrier than her born-place. So we drop an "Albania". What do you think?balkanian (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Norther epirus

according to wiki`s policy evrey body has the wright to propose to deletion every article which may be POV. the main article of the discussion is in the template. You can find it here too Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Epirus. It is a free discussion and the result of it will be either keeping the article, or removing it. Please contributebalkanian (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Chameria is an oficcial name, there is a commune in Albania name by it, and it lies beyond Albania to Greece. Chameria is the Albanian name corresponding to Thesprotia, plus the Chameria commune in Southern Albania. This makes it in my opinion official. But if you don`t think that this is acquriatte, feel free to put the same template on that page.balkanian (talk) 12:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Chameria lies in Greece and in Southern ALbania. Ksamil and Konispol are cham populated areas. Greeks of Southern Albania may call themselves as they want, but this doesn`t make it official. According to Albanian law, and goverment they are ethnic greek minority of Albania. balkanian (talk) 12:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Chameria exists, as Epirus exists too. They are official at least at one state, so they do exist. But there is no Southern Chameria article, there is a Thesprotia article. On the other hand there is Epirus (region), Northern Epirus and Epirus (periphery). In this context as there is a Thesprotia article, there should be an Southern Albania article and not Northern Epirusbalkanian (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok then. Lets change the Epirus (region) article too, because it is not official in ALbania. I think you missunderstood me. Let me make it more clear. In the context we spoke Epirus (region)=Chameria, Epirus (periphery)=Konispol and [[Ksamil; and Northern Epirus=Southern Chameria, instead of Thesprotia, or Southern Albania instead of Northern Epirus=Thesprotia. balkanian (talk) 13:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Read the lead of Chameria article:"Chameria (Albanian: Çamëria, often rendered in Greek as Τσαμουριά Tsamouriá) is a local (not widely used) name for the coastal region of Epirus in southern Albania and northwestern Greece.". Northern Epirus lead: "Northern Epirus (Greek: Βόρειος Ήπειρος, Vorios Ipiros) is a term used to refer to those parts of the historical region of Epirus, in the western Balkans, that are part of Albania"(only). By the way Chameria and Northern Epirus are both nationalistic, but the firs is a modern geographical term used in a part of Albania, and the second an irredentist POV.balkanian (talk) 13:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

They both (Lika and Manjani) have Albanian citizienship, along with their Greek, their represented both countries, they have been champions for both countries, and one of them (Manjani) is the current record-holder for both countires)balkanian (talk) 13:20, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Please see here. It is the section of giving and living citizienships of the official website of the Albanian president, who is the only one to have authority to give or take back a citizienship. There is no decision for Mirela Manjani and Sava Lika.balkanian (talk) 13:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

this is an interview of Manjani, for the daily Kosovar press Koha Ditore, where she exepts it.balkanian (talk) 13:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Mirela Manjani represented Albania in 1996 and these makes her notable. Savva Lika represented Albania in varius activities, was second in Balkanian Championship and third in Mediterranian Championship, so she was notalbe, when she had the Albanian citizienship.balkanian (talk) 13:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

We are saying the same thing: In the normal case this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable.balkanian (talk) 13:47, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

That`s exactlt what i mention. is a javelin thrower who represtns greek (i.e.the country of which the person is a citizen or national), prior 1997, or 2002, Albania (i.e.the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen, as you like, when the person became notable(i.e. when they started to have international rankings, i.e.[6], [7], or [8])balkanian (talk) 14:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

OK the, lets reword it: Mirela Manjani is an Albanian Born, Greek javelin thrower, who represents Greece, and prior 1997 Albania. As far as my block logs, it seems that you are not an angel too.balkanian (talk) 14:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Again with mirela and sava

Please see again Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies). My proposal is clear. Mirela Manjani (1. Name(s) and title(s)) Greek: ..., Albanian: Mirela Manjani, born in dd/mm/yyy in..., Albania ( 2. Dates of birth), is an Albanian born (Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability, because she started her international carrier in Albania), Greek (In the normal case this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable.), javelin thrower, representing Greece (the country of which the person is a citizen or national), and prior 1997, Albania (the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen). This is NPOV, referenced to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies).balkanian (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Arvanites

I read your source on Arvanites, but I could not find that they "traditionally" were identified as Greeks. Can you find the quoted phrase in the source? Thank you.balkanian (talk) 15:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of List of nations finishing at the top of the medals tables at the Summer Olympic Games

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A1 results

I will see what I can find. I think it's a lot harder to get those than it is for the football results. What part of Greece are you from? - Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 22:09, 01 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikilinking of dates

You may not have seen that six weeks ago the policy on wikilinking of dates changed. WP:mosnum now states that dates are not to be linked. I have just reverted the date links you inserted at Jennifer Aniston. Hope that helps you. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 16:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries

Sthenel, I think I've asked you this a couple times before; if you must edit-war, at least make it a habit to use informative edit summaries please. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Maroussi arena

Are they not playing their Eurocup games at OAKA this year? Wiki Greek Basketball User Talk 13:14, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

If they play there it should be listed

If they play in that arena half their games it should be listed, it doesn't matter whether it is A1 or not just list BOTH ARENAS and specify which one. Posting half truth info is not correct. Wiki Greek Basketball User Talk 15:57, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

AEK position

I could ask you the same question about if the actually determine the final position. It's not exacly clear in the league's official site but if you read the structure section in the wikipedia article (Super League Greece#Structure) you see it says In the play-off for UEFA Champions League. Moreover in other leagues with playoff systems such as the Dutch Eredivisie it is clearly mentioned that the playoffs are for the European places (Eredivisie#European competition). If you read it you will see that This happened in 2005-06; AZ, 2nd in competition, had to play for the UEFA Cup, while Ajax, 4th in competition, went into the Champions League qualifying round. Also if you look at the champions section (Eredivisie#Champions) you will see that for the 2005-06 AZ are mentioned as runners-up. Darth21 (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Arsenal and Chelsea football rivalry

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Souliotes

Hi, I incorporated on Talk:Souliotes the discussion held in Talk:Cham Albanians, which was actually the consensus. Please read it and if you find other references than feel free to add them.Balkanian`s word (talk) 14:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

A proposal

Please can you see the proposal I have made in Talk:Chameria page.Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Olympiakos

• All Greek cup finalists rosters (gr)
• Olympiakos basketpedya.com
• olympiacos.org The Championships Teams

Sportin (talk) 07:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Greece April 2009 newsletter

The April 2009 issue of the WikiProject Greece newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.--Yannismarou (talk) 02:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Greek princesses

I think the current category is fine, as it represents Modern Greece. "Greek princes/ses" for the modern royals conforms to what we have for other similar categories (Danish, Dutch, Prussian, Austrian, etc) I think what you're doing with the subcategories (having subcats for antiquated royals) works, but the current category is fine for modern princesses. Maybe this is something to take up over at WP:ROYAL. Morhange (talk) 01:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Bubulina

Whats the problem with that? If "the person should be associated with his/her nation/country", than she should be an Ottoman, cause she lived in the Ottoman Empire. She is arvanite per sources and thats all.

By the way, why do all Greek editors here hate Arvanites?Balkanian`s word (talk) 18:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Ancient Macedonians

In response to your note, I'm trying to figure out what is going on here. I tried to find the most recent case where Future Perfect at Sunrise reverted one of your edits. I found this, in which he reverted two separate alterations of yours. Your first edit made an unsourced assertion that a certain view is generally agreed-upon. As a personal aside, I remember asking an editor to cite something about an obscure matter in 19th century American history. He insisted it was common knowledge and needed no citation. Few things from 100 or 2600 years ago can be assumed to be common knowledge. So, getting back to the matter, writing that a bunch of ancient historians all agree on something is an assertion and all assertions should be verifiable. For example, if I were going to write, "Many reports say that....", I'd make sure that it either has "many" footnotes or one footnote that says "many". Does that make sense? It's less important if you're going to say something uncontentious, like, "Sophia Loren was seen by many as the greatest Italian star of the 1950s."

The second part of the edit is where you wrote: "..besides Alexander the Great is presented to name himself the Greek viceroy of Macedonia while speaking to the Persians." That's sourced, but the source is Herotodus. Herotodus was an important but flawed historian, and we should always attribute the reports of the famous old historians. The other problem is that the word "besides" seems to be trying to prove a point or draw a conclusion, which is never desirable. It'd be much better to say, in a sentencce of its own and using the neutral point of view, that, "Herotodus reported that Alexander presented himself..." Then everyone knows who said it and there's less of an appearance of trying to prove something. So the two issues in that part would be drawing a conclusion, and failing to attribute a somewhat questionable source.

Finally, regarding Future Perfect at Sunrise. Please remember that while he's just an editor like anyone else, he's had a lot of experience on Wikipedia and has been judged by the community to be reasonably responsible. He's also been criticized. I've never paid enough attention to his edits to judge whether he's good or bad but either way the only behavior you can control is your own. Whatever you do avoid edit warring and incivilty, and try to develop consensus on the talk page. Ask about folks' objections and try to meet them. Likewise with your own concerns. there are many places to go for community input. There are the regulat channels like the noticeboards for specific issues (WP:RSN, WP:NORN, etc} and tools like WP:RfCs, plus special ethnic/nationalities noticeboards and even Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia. Don't that Wikipedia is a long term project. We don't have to get everything right today. As an editor, your most important task is staying around until next week and next year. Sometimes the best way of doing that is by taking a break of a week or two, either from all of Wikipedia or just the article.   Will Beback  talk  09:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I really don't have time to do investigations of this. If you want me to look at an edit you'll have to give me a diff and tell me exactly what I'm looking for.   Will Beback  talk  16:51, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Did you read what I wrote above, in response to your first request?   Will Beback  talk  19:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I took the time to write a long response to your first request, but you seem to have ignored what I wrote. I don't have more time to spend on giving advice that isn't read.   Will Beback  talk  21:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we're communicating very well. I suggest using one of the steps in WP:DR. Best of luck.   Will Beback  talk  23:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Derby of the eternal enemies

Hi Sthenel, it was me who added yesterday the play off match between Olympiakos and Panathinaikos (Volos 1982). You think that this match doesn't have to be in the list of the games between the two clubs? Dimitrissss (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Ίσως έχεις δίκιο, αν κι ένα μπαράζ τίτλου είναι εκ των πραγμάτων σημαντικός αγώνας. Και βέβαια και στο ματς αυτό οι δύο αιώνιοι ήταν... οι δύο αιώνιοι και όχι κάποιοι άλλοι. Άστο για την ώρα και βλέπουμε. Ίσως μπει σαν υποσημείωση ή σαν ξεχωριστή ενότητα, όπως πρόσθεσα πρόσφατα και το League Cup του 1990. (Αστεία διοργάνωση, ωστόσο επίσημη...) Dimitrissss (talk) 10:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Και να σκεφτείς ότι ο συγκεκριμένος ..... (από μέσα μου ο χαρακτηρισμός) με έστειλε στους διαχειριστές για βανδαλισμό! (Εκεί που μας χρωστάγανε μας πήραν και το βόδι). Dimitrissss (talk) 11:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Ναι, λεπτότητα, όντως. Αν και τους έχω φάει στη μάπα στην ελληνική Βικιπαίδεια τόσο καιρό, δεν είναι η πρώτη φορά. (Το τι έχουν σκαρφιστεί για να προσθέτουν τίτλους στους συλλόγους, δεν περιγράφεται!). Δεν περίμενα ότι αυτό θα γίνει εξαγώγιμο προϊόν. Το ξέρω ότι θα επανέλθει. Όχι για τα κύπελλα καθεαυτά, αλλά για το γινάτι. Δεν πειράζει. Θα μπουν ξανά οι αντικρουόμενες πηγές και θα καταντήσει άρθρο - τσίρκο. Δεν γίνεται όμως να μην παρατεθούν οι επίσημες ελληνικές πηγές. Κι όποιος θέλει ας βγάλει τα συμπεράσματά του. Dimitrissss (talk) 11:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The book by Mr. Spyridon Sfetas

Hello Sthenel. One of the references in the article Macedonians (ethnic group) is the book by Mr. Spyridon Sfetas, originally published in Greece in 2009. I am not experienced with the Greek alphabet, so I ask you to add the original name of this book along with the Bulgarian translation. Thanks in advance. Relativefrequency (talk) 23:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Now the original name can be found here. Thanks! Relativefrequency (talk) 09:43, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Greek Orthodox

Μεγάλε αφού δεν τα ξέρεις σωστά γιατί πειράζεις το άρθρο;;;87.202.69.140 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC).

φίλε βαριέμαι να τσακωθώ μαζί σου ... απλώς σου λέω ότι το να αλλάζεις το άρθρο χωρίς να πολυκαταλαβαίνεις τι λέει είναι τουλάχιστον βλακώδες. Γιατί δεν το καταλαβαίνεις αυτό μου δείχνεις όταν (π.χ.) αλλάζεις τον τίτλο της "Ελληνορθόδοξης εκκλησίας του όρους Σινά" σε "Μοναστήρι της Αγίας Αικατερίνης".87.202.69.140 (talk) 22:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

ε δε με παρατάς αφού σ'αρέσει το άρθρο έτσι τι να σου πώ είσαι μεγάλος βλάκας (με περικεφαλαία που λένε) τι να κάτσω να σου εξηγήσω αφού εσύ το δικό σου θα κάνεις (τι να πω ρε παιδί μου και δεν είσαι ούτε καν ξένος) για να μην καταλαβαίνεις ότι αποδυναμώνεις το άρθρο... κάνε το όπως νομίζεις και συγχαρητήρια σε όποιον σού 'δωσε πτυχίο.87.202.69.140 (talk) 23:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Templates

The templates were much better before they were changed. That is why I changed them back. I don't what else to say other than that. It is nothing more to it than this. Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 08:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I didn't change it back. But to be fair here, you are changing it just because you don't I guess like the other one. Have it however you want it to be, but I'm just answering you. I changed it because the "new" box to me is inferior and poor. No problems, I was just answering the question why you asked me why I changed it. Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 09:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Euroleague in Basketball

Hi Brother! you don't understand me. This is not nationalistic edit...if you know Serbia have ,in time of Yugoslavia, some players which play for this country. The FIBA considers separate SFRJ Yugoslavia from Serbia becouse consider only the result of Yugoslavia and Serbia but in team of Yugoslavia playing some serbs...and becouse Serbia are consider the successor of this medals. It's not nationalistic edit is real editing brother :)

Greeting to you!! Long life to Greece! —Preceding unsigned comment added by South.Gate1970 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

ok bro! is not problem...i think that beocuse Serbia was a part of Yugoslavia and win the title with player of other countries in ex-yugoslavia ;)

Greetings —Preceding unsigned comment added by South.Gate1970 (talk • contribs) 12:12, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

hey bro! excusme. can you put Soviet Union , Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia under the name of Russia , Serbia and Czech Republic and than put a references in whic you can describe that this team is consider separate but now the successor is the new former republic of Russia...and another squad. Thanks :)

Greetings —Preceding unsigned comment added by South.Gate1970 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

yes bro i know :) but it's the same thing :) becouse Serbia will be the center of federation in age of yugoslavia :)

GreetingSouth.Gate1970 (talk) 17:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Alexander

Hi there,

The most recent consensus on the lead of Alexander the Great was the result of this discussion: [9]. The reasons for the discussion can be found littered across the article's talk page. The use of Ancient Greece rather than Greeks to wikilink "Ancient Greek" is simple: it avoids some of the otherwise inevitable conflict that the article attracts.

As I'm sure you know, whether Alexander was "Greek" or "Macedonian" in a modern sense of usage is both a) a hotly-debated subject, and b) interminably boring. To avoid this conflict spilling over onto Alexander's article, it is preferable to go for something less ambiguous, and easier to reference. Whilst the notion that Alexander was an Ancient Greek still causes some problems, he at least self-identified as a hellene - and this can easily be backed up by published work.

At any rate, this is basically of a matter of semantics: to the disinterested reader, the text of the article still says "Ancient Greek"; the only difference is where that link leads. I realise this is not a solution that pleases everyone (or perhaps even no-one), but it is a compromise, and one that maybe is acceptable to the most people.

I hope this clarifies the rationale for my edit, Best regards, MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 13:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

"Bad editing"

I am not the one that is doing "bad editing", making up non existent rules, making up how articles are supposed to be, and constantly sending unwarranted complaints to other users. So please don't start accusing me of acting how you are. Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 10:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Your words seems accusatory and you seem to always complain about anything. Regardless, you are complaining about things that you alone by yourself have a problem with. It gets really annoying and you should be able to figure that out on your own. I do not have to personally explain every contribution I make to the site. Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 11:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Macedonian (Greeks)

Hello, I am disputing whether the "Preface" portion should be included in Macedonians (Greeks). I am not disputing ancient times, it is well known the ancient historians distinguished between Macedonians and Greeks, and that Macedonians were Hellenized much like the rest of the ethnicities of the Balkans during that time.

I am disputing if Macedonians (Greeks) are descendants of the ancient Macedonians, and would like you to prove the Greeks of Macedonia identified as Macedonian during the Greek revolution/Greek battle for Macedonia/nationalism during Ottoman Empire. Mactruth (talk) 23:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I already did. Mactruth (talk) 00:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Can I get your comment/opinion in the piping of {{Infobox Peri GR}} with {{Infobox Settlement}}? _{El Greco}^(talk) 21:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, if you want to add any further input, leave your comments here: Template talk:Infobox Peri GR. _{El Greco}^(talk) 16:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

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You're right

Edit warring is wrong. Next time I want to edit that template, I'll open a discussion first. Sounds good?--Iwillremembermypassthistime (talk) 21:21, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Crete

What was the point of this revert several days ago? Two other users had been edit warring inappropriately and been warned...why did you feel a need to jump in and make another revert with no explanation? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Category deletion

I could not approve your request to delete Category:Olympiacos footballers, because the speedy deletion guidelines specifically prohibit speedy deletion of a category that has been emptied without previous discussion at WP:CFD. Accordingly, I have started such a discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 October 27#Category:Olympiacos footballers, and you are welcome to participate. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Olympiacos F.C.

I cut, you put back, I clean up, you clean up my clean-up, and the article is better as a result. Nice work. What I'd like to see is more sources from books--don't you have anything on your shelf? They don't have to be in English, of course. Drmies (talk) 18:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. I like this much better than edit warring--and I do apologize if I sound terse in these edit summaries; you only have a few characters to get a lot across. Take it easy, and let's see what we can find to improve the article. Drmies (talk) 18:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:Warning

Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars perhaps... And still, your edit is inconsistent (Seeing as it only shows old names on 2 out of 3 teams). Fifa recognizes Czechia and Slovakia as successors just as Russia, and in the latest edit it also shows the predecessors chandler 21:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

If you look at the UEFA pages for Slovakia, Cezch Republic, Russia and Germany (and Serbia). Look at their "National team competition record", you'll see that all matches are handed down to those teams. The reason to have them on the template it to show that FIFA and UEFA recognize them as winners of the competition. chandler 01:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

3RR

I observe you in violation of 3RR on Macedonians (Greeks). Stop. Toddst1 (talk) 17:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Not really, be more open-eyed. - Sthenel (talk) 18:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Nope - you had 4: 1 2 3 4. This is a simple content dispute. Please seek WP:DR and stop edit warring. Toddst1 (talk) 18:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The first was not, I didn't remove what he added. The third case was not a bare reversion either. - Sthenel (talk) 18:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not going to argue with you. They were all reversions of Alex Makedon (talk · contribs)'s edits in whole or in part. Toddst1 (talk) 18:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

In the first case, I didn't undo his edit, I didn't restore the page to a previous version and actually I didn't revert his edit (Help:Reverting). I didn't remove what he added, I just corrected his syntax. Editing and reverting are two different actions. I don't want to argue with you either. So, this is over and thanks for the intervention. - Sthenel (talk) 18:34, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It was 3. What you're mistaking as the 4th is indeed syntax. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:04, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Just to inform, I've posted to continue the discussion since there are some serious issues I think need to be addressed. Stopping it now vs it being brought up later would be good. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 21:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Reply on template

I was just muddling through myself. Try looking for other similar templates (try rooting around politics infoboxes). Sorry I can't be of more assistance. Lockesdonkey (talk) 18:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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Your edit at the Olympiacos template

Hi i noticed you reverted my edit and you put that there is a reason that the fb exist, but there is this discussion that explains why I'm removing them. random numbers (talk) 18:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Greek Orthodox Church

Sthenel, please look at the talk page of the Greek Orthodox Church. I entered dubious|verify for all three sources that say that the Albanian National Autocephalous Church is part of the Greek Orthodox Church. Let's solve this once and forever, because as it is, the article isn't stable. --_Sulmues ^{Let's talk} 21:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Laskarina

Your thoughts are needed here --_Sulmues ^{Let's talk} 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Volleyball players

I have seen that you edited some volleyball articles. Some players articles, most of them looks outdated. I would like to improve players by country. Could you please choose a country to contribute with? Please take a look on Yekaterina Gamova, Hélia Souza, Serena Ortolani and Kenia Carcaces for a model to follow. Please can you please improve some volleyball players with infobox and some addons? References are very important. Let me know. Oscar987 22:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Volleyball players

I have seen that you edited some volleyball articles. Some players articles, most of them looks outdated. I would like to improve players by country. Could you please choose a country to contribute with? Please take a look on Yekaterina Gamova, Hélia Souza, Serena Ortolani and Kenia Carcaces for a model to follow. Please can you please improve some volleyball players with infobox and some addons? References are very important. Let me know. Oscar987 22:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer

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re:Piraeus

Because that was where I thought the location was for the 1896 Summer Olympics on the swimming events. If that was a mistake, I will remove the category. Sorry about that. Chris (talk) 21:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

The category was removed for the 2004 Summer Olympics. Sorry about that. Chris (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:UEFA Euro winners

Template:UEFA Euro winners has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Puma socks

commons:File:Kit socks puma 2010 red.png commons:File:Kit socks puma 2010 white.png There you go.
I uploaded a different version of the Olympiacos kit without the Puma logo (as many people on the English Wikipedia didn't want them) and gave it a different name (_ocfph2010) so it didn't clash with the existing file (_olympiacos1011h). VEO^{one five} 12:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The admins say that it's alright because the logos are too small to be infringing copyright but none of the members like them being on the kits. VEO^{one five} 19:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Bouboulina

Thanks for dealing with the disruption. Seems specific editors tend to support ip disruption in a variety of articles.Alexikoua (talk) 15:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I know what it mean an urban area. In Attica there are tow urban areas (Πολεοδομικό Συγκρότημα Πειραιώς) and (Πολεοδομικό Συγκρότημα Αθηνών) Notes:Φυτράκης Τεγόπουλος, Μπαμπινιώτης, Νομαρχία Πειραιώς, Παπυρους Μπριτανικα κτλ. Do not repeat erroneous information from other. Sorry για τα Αγγλικά μου! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.107.65.171 (talk) 00:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)