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Of these four terms, "Uke" is by far the most derisive, the others are nowadays only mild and somewhat jocular, though "Hunky" can still raise hackles; a famoous entrepreneur, "[[Hunky Bill]]", was a purveyor of perogies and Ukrainian sausages and his booths at events like the PNE would sometimes raise objections from Ukrainian community associations/activists; it can also be used for Hungarian, though less commonly. I'd add these if I knew where to find cites for them...."Boho" is relatively recent, and is a "spin" off Bohunk, and is more derisive in nature; "you big bohunk" can be meant quite affectionately, even flatteringly, for a large or well-built Ukrainian-Canadian male, though again how to cite that I'm not sure.[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 17:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
Of these four terms, "Uke" is by far the most derisive, the others are nowadays only mild and somewhat jocular, though "Hunky" can still raise hackles; a famoous entrepreneur, "[[Hunky Bill]]", was a purveyor of perogies and Ukrainian sausages and his booths at events like the PNE would sometimes raise objections from Ukrainian community associations/activists; it can also be used for Hungarian, though less commonly. I'd add these if I knew where to find cites for them...."Boho" is relatively recent, and is a "spin" off Bohunk, and is more derisive in nature; "you big bohunk" can be meant quite affectionately, even flatteringly, for a large or well-built Ukrainian-Canadian male, though again how to cite that I'm not sure.[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 17:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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A word used by people of Mexican descent, its a derogotory term toward a people of African descent, it is like the n word in spanish |
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Pointedly but only mildly derisive, sometimes jocular, these are ethnic slurs, not sure where to find cites but definitely part of North American English, particularly in the US Midwest and Western Canada. "Swede" when applied to non-Swedes was also considered a derisive (by Norwegians, mostly, not sure about the Danes).[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 15:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC) |
Pointedly but only mildly derisive, sometimes jocular, these are ethnic slurs, not sure where to find cites but definitely part of North American English, particularly in the US Midwest and Western Canada. "Swede" when applied to non-Swedes was also considered a derisive (by Norwegians, mostly, not sure about the Danes).[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 15:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Free Stater
I believe this page is missing the term Chilango from mexico. This was originally a slang used to name people born on one of the other 30 States of Mexico that came to live to Mexico City, but now the meaning of this word has changed and now is a Mexican slang demonym for a person living in Mexico City that either was born in Mexico City or its surrounding areas or moved to that human agglomeration. Sometimes, it has a negative connotation when used principally by someone in one of the 31 sovereign States of Mexico.
Free Stater
In the description it states that this term is used mainly by Ulster Protestants which is not true, its is not a sectarian term which is used more so, but not exclusively, by Catholics from Northern Ireland to refer to people from the Republic.
Monday
This is a term I have heard in reference to African Americans, or other dark skinned people. The way it was described to me was that "Everybody hates Mondays", thus implying that everyone hates African Americans. Perhaps someone could do the research and add this, if appropriate. 96.36.137.41 (talk) 21:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
WASP
What about WASP? I'm shocked that this isn't on here.Txori (talk) 23:35, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- I don't consider "WASP" to be a slur. I am a WASP and I am proud to be a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Masterhatch (talk) 00:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- Almost any term can be used as a slur, if that's the intention. Will Beback talk 01:00, 31 July 2009
When used to describe a WASP by a person who is NOT considered a WASP, the term is very derisive. It implies that they are snobbish and look down their noses at all other cultures and people who are not similarly situated and consider them to be of an undesirable social caste. Think of it in the context of [the Outsiders], wherein the WASPS were referred to as [socias] by the [greasers]. (UTC)
For that matter, there are many (non-US) Americans who get offended when the international media use America/American synonymously with US/US citizen. Is this offensive, or only by omission/association?--124.185.50.100 (talk) 14:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
If anyone were using the term WASP to denote ALL US citizens, they would be wrong, since many Americans are neither W, or AS, or P, or they might be W but not AS and maybe P, or any combo of W, AS, or P. WASP isn't a valid ethnic slur. In fact it is used by White Supremacists in reference to, uh, THEMSELVES. I think that you misunderstand the meaning and use of the expression. If you still need an ax to grind, there are plenty of offensive derogatory terms used to denote white folks. White Trash for example, or Cracker, or Whitey. Prod for Protestants, Limeys for Anglo-Saxons. WASP is not one of these. Never has been. It is like people getting offended by the use of the term "Jew" which is not a derogatory term, and is not considered a derogatory term by Jews. I have found that it is considered derogatory only by closeted anti-semites.
Anyway, I use the term WASP all the time to describe the ethnic background of many of my ancestors. They were White, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant. It is also used to describe a type of person with values similar to WASPs. For example, my Scots-Irish relatives are White and Protestant, but not Anglo-Saxon as they are Celts. Anglo-Saxons are Germanic, but the cultures are similar due to the mass Anglicization of the Celts by the Brits. So, the cultures are similar and we say they are "waspy" and they are. There is nothing derogatory about it. Sirwinston2u (talk) 13:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Newfies, Peasoup and Squareheads
These are three terms used in Canada especially, although maybe other places as well. Newfie is an mildly offensive term for people from Newfoundland; presumably because it is the last province to join the country, and also because it is an island, the inhabitants of Newfoundland are often pictured as not too bright in "Newfie jokes". However, I must say that some of the best Newfie jokes I've heard were told to me by Newfoundlanders. I guess they have a good sense of humour. Peasoup is used to talk about the French Canadian. I don't know what the origin of the expression is. Squareheads is used by the French Canadians to describe the English Canadians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.48.129 (talk) 05:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Within Newfoundland there is another term called Jackytar. This refers to a Newfoundlander of mixed French and Micmac indian descent. It was named to describe the speech of such a person. The term was common in the Stephenville, NL area, post World War II. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newfoundlander465 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Canucks
Since when it's the term Canuck an ethnic slur? That's a news to me. People think it is, but it is not. Norum (talk) 09:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- Please check the sources. They use the exact term to describe the word Canuck. --Jayron32 02:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I lived in Canada for a number of yours and that is hardly considered to be a racial slur. Canadians refer to themselves as Canucks quite often. They are aware that Americans think this is a racist slur, but it really is not. Norum (talk) 08:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
See here and here. In Canada the term «canuck» is not a slur. The slurs are terms like «frog» to designate a French speaking individual and «bloke» to designate ans English speaking individual. I don't think that the NHL would have consented to use a slur a name for the Vancouver Canucks hockey club. It should therefore be removed from this article. --Jazzeur (talk) 14:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I see a flaw in that logic. Sports leagues have a history of being insensitive to this sort of thing, for example Washington Redskins#Native American Mascot Controversy. Also, this seems to be an odd case where some people use it as a slur, when in fact the object of the slur, the Canadians, are not actually offended by it. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- FWIR it was originally a slur for French Canadians, but by the early 20th Century that was no longer the case; the Johnny Canuck comicstrip/book was one of the sources which transposed it to mean all CAnadians; while Can-OOK is something of a joking slur, there's no way it's currently a slur, especially an ethnic one. The two slurs I've heard, coined by the USians in the film industry, are "frostbacks" and "snow niggers".....and CAnadians have far more inventive and colourful ways of derogating each other, most of which are vulgar so I won't list them off here....Skookum1 (talk) 16:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- You've got a point there, it's not really an ethnic slur if it means Canadians in general, since they are not all the same ethnicity. Ok, I guess we take it out. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- It's also listed at List of regional nicknames, that seems more appropriate. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- You've got a point there, it's not really an ethnic slur if it means Canadians in general, since they are not all the same ethnicity. Ok, I guess we take it out. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Cool then. Norum (talk) 19:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Done--Beeblebrox (talk) 23:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Surely the canonical ethnic slur for a Canadian is "moose-fucker" - a word whose absence from this list surprises me. See http://www.chortle.co.uk/comics/j/114/jerry_sadowitz for an account of the clear offensiveness of this word and attendant reprisals.
Pakeha IS most definitely an ethnic slur, as it is used as a racist term by some Maoris to describe British New Zealanders, both British-born and New Zealand-born. - (203.211.72.57 (talk) 01:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC))
Coon
In australia coon is used to describe aboriginals. here is a source for it, i aint to good at editing so http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/racism.html--The-deejjj (talk) 14:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC) The Australian use of coon is also thought to of come from a generalised indigenous use of the word (particularly in Western NSW) to describe a place to have a bowel motion. As in Coonamble being described as a nice place by the river to have a shit. I have always thought that it was nice that the gubbas called their favorite cheese after an indigenous poo!: Portuguese? Well, I had thought it was just a shorthand of Raccoon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.119.87 (talk) 16:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
The term is certainly understood to be insulting, but is not in general use, though I have heard people from country/central NSW use it (Though 30 years ago!) It is also a brand of CHEESE, supposedly named after a person with the surname Coon. However, there IS some debate over this origin, and some moves by one anti-racism 'advocate' to ban the use of this brand name.
news.com.au September 26, 2008 "Anti-racism academic cheesed off with Coon" by David Barbeler http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24405098-421,00.html 220.101.28.25 (talk) 09:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
In Britain its any afro-caribbean. There's no way you'd market a cheese or use this word in broadcast media without heavily contextualising it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.50.100 (talk) 14:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Banana
Similar to "apple" for native people, "banana" is a person of Asian descent who is no longer Asian by culture, at least as perceived by unassimilated Asians; extremely derisive, though can be used self-referentially in joking terms, I don't know where to find a cite for it but it's very common in Vancouver and, I would think, in California etc. Not usually used for Koreans, Japanese etc I think I've only ever heard it used for/by Chinese.Skookum1 (talk) 17:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
The movie "Better Luck Tomorrow," an Asian-American film made by MTV, uses the word "Twinkie" rather than banana, but has the same meaning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnycush (talk • contribs) 18:32, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Bohunk, Boho, Hunky and Uke
Of these four terms, "Uke" is by far the most derisive, the others are nowadays only mild and somewhat jocular, though "Hunky" can still raise hackles; a famoous entrepreneur, "Hunky Bill", was a purveyor of perogies and Ukrainian sausages and his booths at events like the PNE would sometimes raise objections from Ukrainian community associations/activists; it can also be used for Hungarian, though less commonly. I'd add these if I knew where to find cites for them...."Boho" is relatively recent, and is a "spin" off Bohunk, and is more derisive in nature; "you big bohunk" can be meant quite affectionately, even flatteringly, for a large or well-built Ukrainian-Canadian male, though again how to cite that I'm not sure.Skookum1 (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Mayate
A word used by people of Mexican descent, its a derogotory term toward a people of African descent, it is like the n word in spanish
Scandahoovian and Norhoogian
Pointedly but only mildly derisive, sometimes jocular, these are ethnic slurs, not sure where to find cites but definitely part of North American English, particularly in the US Midwest and Western Canada. "Swede" when applied to non-Swedes was also considered a derisive (by Norwegians, mostly, not sure about the Danes).Skookum1 (talk) 15:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Gringo
This article mentions "gringo" as possibly originating from a benign "green go" from the uniforms of American soldiers during the Mexican-American war... this should be removed as it is not only lacking a citation, but American uniforms were blue, never green, from the 1770's till almost 1900... the war was in the 1840s, which means there is no logical possibility of this being correct. Robertz1986 07:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertz1986 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Insufficient research and sourcing
Many of the terms listed here are based on hearsay. There are many slang or vernacular terms of uncertain circulation that do not deserve encyclopedic treatment. See ABCD...
Some of the terms are clearly new ways of rebranding old stereotypes and their flaunting as "consecrated" terms is at the same time an attempt to give them currency. Wikipedia has no business giving a platform to race baiters.
--Damis (talk) 17:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- To fight an enemy, you must know it. Also, people must know some words simply to avoid them. There are plenty of non-native English speakers who would benefit from this list. I doubt anyone becomes a race baiter after reading wikipedia. And we are NOT giving a "platform" to them. On the contrary, we maintain this list to stay away from Urban dictionary and the likes. - Altenmann >t 18:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
---Wikipedia is not a political platform or a tool for fixing the ills of the world. Is a resource of notable and current events, facts, etc. Obscure slang, or political controversies, like the one surrounding the term "maccaca" are not of encyclopedic interest. --Damis (talk) 22:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
- No, Wikipedia is also not "a resource of notable and current events, facts, etc..." It is an encyclopedia, no more, no less. You having no interest in a topic has no bearing on anyone else's interest in said topic. We currently have over 3,000,000 articles and if one doesn't interest you, don't read it; I sure there are other articles you would enjoy. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 13:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Improper
This whole "article" is racist and subpar crap. No respectable dictionary would spread slurs. Fuck America! --93.106.210.171 (talk) 13:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
"Whigger" and Poles
Yatzhek, I'm sorry, I read the source you use, and it neither shows research or common usage. It's just one guy's essay, with no references to works that can verify it. It may be interesting to you, and I am sure it would be if it was more than just speculation, but its currency in the English language is low to nonexistent in common parlance, and as it stands it is not of encyclopedic interest for this article. Perhaps you can start an article on this topic and see where it leads you. Right now it's just no good in the list of ethnic slurs. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 12:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
^--afraid of being called a weaboo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.110.59.213 (talk) 08:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Polack
As the article says, "Polack" is the proper term for a pole in norwegian and swedish, but the article leaves out the fact that it would also be the proper term in Danish and Icelandic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gormtheelder (talk • contribs) 12:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Polack (spelled Polak/Poljak/Poliak/Pal-yak or a variation thereof) is a proper word for a Pole in many slavic ("eastern european") languages. 174.6.87.98 (talk) 21:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
"Slur"
The words in this article vary from being inoffensive to very offensive. The intro seems to imply that they are all offensive - this is not so. This 'offensiveness' also varies in different parts of the English speaking world. The word 'Jap' would appear to be offensive in the US but not in the UK.
I suspect that Australians think "pom" is more offensive than its intended victims do.--124.185.50.100 (talk) 14:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Paddy
'Paddy' is derived from 'Patrick' a very popular name in Ireland and of the patron saint of Ireland. A prominent English politician in the UK is Paddy Ashdown and there is a TV presenter and comic, called Patrick Kielty who also sometimes goes by the name 'Paddy'. So in the UK 'Paddy' is not necessarily a 'slur'.
85.119.112.73 (talk) 23:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Indian Slumdog
Can someone please edit the article and place this ethnic slur.
(Primarily used in the UK, Australia, United States, New Zealand, and Canada) an Indian, a Hindu or someone from Mumbai. The term has originated after the release of the academy award winning film called slumdog millionaire. Slumdog Millionaire has stirred controversy on a few issues including the welfare of its child actors and its portrayals of Indians and Hinduism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.141.53 (talk) 05:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
- Someone really needs to add this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.117.1.172 (talk) 21:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I use this all the time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.17.116.168 (talk) 03:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Septic
Australian and British use the term "septic" to refer to "Yanks" or Americans. The term comes from Cockney rhyming slang, "septic-tank = Yank" and while it may be said in a cute or playful manner by Aussies, it is highly disrespectful to Americans who understand the term is actually being applied to them. Being called a "septic" is akin to being called a tub of excrement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.65.205.4 (talk) 00:48, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
"Paki"
Ironically, Paki or Paaki also means Pure in persian and Pakistan can also mean Land of the Pure. This should be added to the article as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.47.160 (talk) 07:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I would be interested in an explanation of how "Paki" came to be considered offensive in the UK. Considered naively, it seems an innocent backformation from Paki-stan, seeing that -stan stands for "abode of", compare Kazakh : Kazakhstan, Tajik : Tajikistan etc. Of course, PAKiStan is an artificial portmanteau of "Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, and Balochistan", so that it would seem that shortening to "Paki" might at best be offensive to people from Sindh or Balochistan. --dab (��) 15:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- The word itself, I suppose, is not offensive as such, but it has a long association with usage by the National Front and other such groups, not to mention the more casual racism of a couple generations back. It's viewed as insulting more because of who uses (or used) it rather than any inherent offensiveness. Moreschi (talk) 17:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- that's unfortunate, especially seeing that paak means "pure" in Urdu. It would have been a wiser course to embrace the epithet, along the lines of "if the NF insist on calling us 'the pure', we're not going to object". But I assume it's too late for that now. --dab (��) 17:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Without question. Moreschi (talk) 18:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- the UK seems definitely to have arrived at US levels of racial hysteria now. So this man was forced to apologize to a Moroccan for for saying she 'looked like a Paki'? That's rather ambiguous. --dab (��) 09:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Without question. Moreschi (talk) 18:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- that's unfortunate, especially seeing that paak means "pure" in Urdu. It would have been a wiser course to embrace the epithet, along the lines of "if the NF insist on calling us 'the pure', we're not going to object". But I assume it's too late for that now. --dab (��) 17:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I understand there was a large scale media campaign in the 50s warning of the "Paki invasion". Therefore it became an abusive term here for non-Pakistanis to use. As Dbachmann indicates Pakistan is a bit of an invention and many don't like the idea of partition and the bloodshed associated with it either. The Punjab was split in two through partition. One half is in India and one half in Pakistan. I prefer to think of myself as a Punjabi or a Scotsman with a Punjabi background. Its not nice when an entire subcontinent is afforded the same racial slur. I've heard it said to Arabs, Persians, Indians and Bengalis....pathetic when one can't just say hello and address someone with a Sir/Madam/Mister isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar418 (talk • contribs) 05:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Paki is used in Australia, too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.50.100 (talk) 14:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
And in Canada as well (particularly in southern Ontario) - I recall its appearance was accompanied by an extensive number of very tasteless jokes which made the rounds shortly after a large number of impoverished Pakistani and/or Indian refugees arrived in Canada. On a personal level that was my first introduction to racism, which occurred in a government run youth organization no less.173.32.134.84 (talk) 00:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Blanket Ass
This is a slur typically used by white people to describe a Native American. Slicyb (talk) 00:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Slope/ Fishhead/ Zipperhead
These are slurs used typically by American soldiers fighting in Korea to describe the locals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slicyb (talk • contribs) 00:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Spook
A slur against blacks, mainly used by whites. The most common use of this word was in 1950's America.
Makes an interesting comparison with "Casper" used for white liberals. From Casper the friendly ghost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.50.100 (talk) 14:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Guinea
A word used to describe those of Italian descent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slicyb (talk • contribs) 00:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Whitecap Coon/ Pipeline Orangutan
Slur used to describe Native Hawaiians or those of Polynesian descent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slicyb (talk • contribs) 00:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Peckerwood
A term used by african americans to describe whites. Mainly used in American south during segregation. Slicyb (talk) 01:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Redskin
I removed what looks to be an unneeded "an offensive" from the redskin entry. I believe being on this list means that it isn't used in a nice way. Duplicating it reads like a point is trying to be made. We could also modify it. The source used says it is hurtful to most but other sources could be presented that say some so I thought it might be best to let the scope of this list and the source speak for themselves.Cptnono (talk) 11:14, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
"Nazi"
Hi I'm German, and over the years, I've been getting used to Americans using the "nazi" term with less offensive meaning, which, however, is often misunderstood over here and could easily turn a conversation into a combat-like dispute. In anticipation to land a rather risky pun you could read in on-line football communities "The Nazis have won again". They just meant "the Germans." So I'd vote for putting this term into the list. Any objections? -andy 85.179.119.87 (talk) 16:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
No your right, sadly some people refer to Germans as Nazis as a ethnic slur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.114.227 (talk) 07:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
I was actually reading through a history book that I bought for my daughter and it referred to the Germans of World War I as Nazis, which they plainly could not have been, even when they were at their worst. It was also ridiculous from the standpoint of the German-Jews of the time who fought proudly and died on the side of Germany during WWI. I was shocked at this oversight on the part of the editors. I am not German, in fact, I am Jewish, and I found this reference to all Germans in history as Nazis very, very offensive and unfair, and I have heard it many times to refer to Germans in general. I second the inclusion of the term in your list of ethnic slurs.
I would also like to point out that the Arabs often refer to the Israelis as Nazis, which is wrong on so many levels, I can't even begin to enumerate. Sirwinston2u (talk) 13:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
"Haji"
I think this should be removed, since it would require a whole section of text to describe WHEN it's meant offensive. Because: a Haji is a honorific title! A muslim proudly calls himself a "Haji" when he's been to Mecca and found his "enlightenment". So I cannot call this entry anything but "made up."-andy 85.179.119.87 (talk) 16:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
- Like most things, it depends on the context it's used in. Much like some ethnicities use slurs (Irish calling themselves "Micks") that could be considered offensive when used by another ethnicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SkonesMickLoud (talk • contribs) 21:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't know but I think the use of this as an ethnic slur comes from the cartoon show "Jonny Quest" with the character "Hadji" who is Indian, not Iraqi. People call them "Hadji" because Hadji wears a turban. Either way it's not made up - I'm not in the military but I have heard people use this to refer to anyone from the Middle East.207.73.176.168 (talk) 05:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Dont' forget wetback!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetback_(slur) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.82.5.82 (talk) 21:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Irish Donkey, Mick
Watch the scene from Rescue Me where they take a sensativity course... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.82.5.82 (talk) 21:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
House Nigger
The article says this is a term for an affluent black person. Not so. It's a term for a black person who advances ideas and advocates policies that shit all over his black brothers and sisters. A rich black republican is just as much of a house nigger as a poor black republican...ooh, satire!
Jawa
Ever since the South Park episode that first used it in this way I've heard it a few times, Jawa (from Star Wars) is used to describe Arabs (in relation to sand people). I'm proposing adding it here. --70.176.184.44 (talk) 08:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Spelling correction to Lace Curtain Irish entry
Lace Curtain Irish were poor immigrants who had designs on becoming more upwardly mobile. In other words, they were considered social climbers by the other Irish immigrants. The term is usually far from being a complement.[113][114]
The word "complement" in the last sentence should be "compliment."
Please Ammend
"Goy" or "Goyim" and "Gentile" need to be added as derogatory terms for any non-Jew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.51.48 (talk) 06:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- Goyim might be, but Gentile is not a slur. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Bogan
Bogan is not an ethnic slur, remove it from this list. It doesn't refer to any particular ethnic group, and this is supported by the fact the the definition in this list doesn't refer to an ethnic group either, if anything it refers to a socio-cultural group. So remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.158.84 (talk) 10:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed, removing it. Franknotes (talk) 18:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
PIGS
PIGS is a ethnic slur, routinely use by the British and North American economic press to refer to Mediterranean countries. It is purported to be an acronym representing four countries of southern Europe: Portugal, Italy, Greece, and Spain. Sometimes, Ireland is listed in addition to or in lieu of Italy. The Financial Times and Barclays Capital have banned the term as "offensive."[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.34.140.4 (talk • contribs)
none
This list is wrong in so many ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.131.145.56 (talk) 00:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- What makes it wrong? I've found it extremely helpful. If someone calls you a slang term that you don't know, I'd like to know what they called me. As a black man living in a place with a lot of racist white people, I've found all kinds of things they've called me are racial slurs by looking at this list in particular. The subject matter does not make it "wrong"; remember: Wikipedia is not censored. —Onore Baka Sama(speak | stalk) 14:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Ethnic slurs.
The slur 'wog' used to donate a black or dark skinned person is listed as originating in Australia. My grandfather, Captain Paul Cochrane,of The Royal Mail Steam Packet company visited India and China many times (Rudyard Kipling often travelled on his ship) He said that the term W.O.G. was an abbreviated version of the Indian "Worthy Oriental Gentleman" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karina Hayklan (talk • contribs) 16:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
It's true that white people are not really offended by direct ethnic slurs, but I have a hard time believing that red-haired, freckled people in America find "Ginger" to be humorous. 24.30.31.249 (talk) 00:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Americans are unlikely to find "Ginger" either humorous or offensive, any more than we are likely to refer to a cookie as a biscuit. This is British term, not one we use. --CAVincent (talk) 03:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Wog
Golliwog is possibly derived from wog, not the other way round. In UK Wog has always been understood to have been originally a mildly pejorative acronym for 'Western Oriental Gentleman' applied to educated Indians or Anglo-indians (part Indian, part English parentage) in the days of the British Raj in India.
Later generalised more or less offensively to black people, possibly through association with golliwog.
Tbending (talk) 18:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Edit request
{{editsemiprotected}} Moolian- A black african person living in Ireland Oohdeooh (talk) 01:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- The addition of a term should probably be sourced. mechamind90 02:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
WOP
This source refutes the myth that 'WOP' means 'without papers' to refer to someone of Italian descent who arrived in America without immigration papers. Here is the link: http://www.billcasselman.com/wording_room/wop.htm
Sacredlilac (talk) 04:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Weeaboo / Wapanese
Similar to "Wigger," this refers to white individuals affecting Japanese customs and traditions. For sources, please see the internet. :-) 129.123.121.233 (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, you got the definition wrong. It's not 'white' its 'wanabee', as in 'I wanabee Japanese'. There are lots of black 'wapanese' as well out there, don't ya know? Just look at Aaron McGruder's animesque Boondocks. Why'd you leave that out? :(
(92.16.122.92 (talk) 18:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC))
Piña / Pineapple
Refers to someone from the Philippines. Source: a Filipino friend. 129.123.121.233 (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Twinkie / Twinky
An Asian who acts Anglo Saxon. It is derived from the look of the twinkie which is yellow on the outside and white on the inside. Yellow referring to the Asian, and White referring to the Anglo Saxon.
- Cool. I assume you have a reference to a reliable source you could cite before trying to add this to the article... --Jayron32 04:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Gaijin
How about "gaijin" (外人), used in Japan to refer to foreigners? The wiki entry reports on the controversial status of the term as a slur, but it's a very commonly used term for a group of people and has negative connotations...
71.255.104.11 (talk) 04:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
"hill Billy"
Please add this term. It is highly offensive and should be on the list. While it is not as prevelant as it once was it the 60's it was used extensively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.233.146.71 (talk) 20:51, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Johnny/Johnny Foreigner
The article says that "Johnny" is British slang for a foreigner, and then cites usages like "Johnny Turk". Well, that's fine, except that "Johnny" used on its own doesn't mean a foreigner, it means a condom. The "-foreigner" part, or else some nationality, has to be added for it to be an ethnic slur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.73.59 (talk) 01:10, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Coolie
Chinese for Ku Li - 'Bitter Strength' - Coolies - The Men of Bitter Strength. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chunner (talk • contribs) 23:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Waymor jameson, 29 May 2010
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PaleFace is a slang and name given to Pilgrims from the Native Americans upon their arriving in America. It refers to the color of the immigrants skin color compaired to that of the Natives.
Waymor jameson (talk) 04:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source to use as a reference to the above statement? --Jayron32 05:17, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have disabled the editsemiprotected template whilst waiting for a reliable source, please re-enable it by removing tld| from it once one has been found. - EdoDodo talk 10:02, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Fr0gg06, 1 June 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} What Does Dual Income, No Kids - DINKS Mean? A household in which there are two incomes and no children (either both partners are working or one has two incomes). DINKS are often the target of marketing efforts for luxury items such as expensive cars and vacations. DINKs has been used perjoratively, often by heads of traditional families (father, mother, children), to castigate perceived self-absorbed narcissistic couples.
From investopedia.com
Fr0gg06 (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Not done Hi there, I've declined this request as no request has been made to edit the article. Please make sure that in any future requests that you make you use the format "Please change x to y", otherwise it can be difficult for us to find out exactly what edit you would like to be made to the page. Thanks, Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 14:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 67.182.70.136, 2 June 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} boot lip- nigger
67.182.70.136 (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Don't suppose you could be a bit less crude? —fetch·comms 23:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 203.98.2.177, 4 June 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} Bog Irish should also be expanded to include bogger that is the more formal way of saying it.
203.98.2.177 (talk) 04:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Not done Please provide a reliable source for the word. I found nothing worthwhile on a Google search. CTJF83 pride 05:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 68.47.163.120, 7 June 2010
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i believe that this page would be improved if it included "Melungeon" aka "Black Irish/Black Dutch".<Wikipedia> <Google> thank you. 68.47.163.120 (talk) 17:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
68.47.163.120 (talk) 17:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Wikipedia and Google are not reliable sources, please provide sources with your edit request. SpigotMap 19:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 125.164.74.120, 14 June 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} Please add :
Malingsia : A derogatory term used by Indonesians to refer to Malaysians, in the assumption that Malaysians stole a lot of resources from Indonesians (Maling=thieves). Wana/Hwana/Fan Kwi : A derogatory term used by Chinese-Indonesians, especially in Java, to refer to indigenous Indonesians, particularly means Javanese although sometimes also for refering to other indigenous ethnics. Hwana means "people who don't know to give thanks", from stereotipes that Javanese don't like to pay good respects to their Chinese-Indonesians employers or peers. Fan Kwi is used in Lampung. Cino/PKI : A derogatory term used by Javanese to refer to Chinese-Indonesians, from "China" (cino). PKI based from stereotipes that all Chinese-Indonesians were staunch supporters of banned Indonesian Communist Party (=Partai Komunis Indonesia, PKI).
125.164.74.120 (talk) 04:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Until we have a source for this, there is not a need to change the article. Please let us know when you have a good source, and we will make the change.
- Not done Avicennasis @ 05:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Sara condon, 25 June 2010
nagger- a racial word directed at black people
Sara condon (talk) 03:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Coconut
"(US) a Hispanic person trying to be 'white'."
That definition alone is extremely prejudiced as if it were pulled directly from La Raza. Hispanic does not mean brown Mexican. Whoever came up with that was either too lazy or too full of themselves to do any research on the definition of Hispanic. Spaniards and the majority of Argentines and Uruguayans in addition to most Southwestern Hispanics aren't trying to be anything because they're already white so knock off the outdated patronizing racist arrogance. STOP PANDERING TO BROWN SUPREMACIST AZTLAN AND LA RAZA. HISPANIC IS NOT BROWN MEXICAN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.205.121.52 (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Fish belly redirects to this page, but there is nothing on this page to say why.
This is way off my normal editing area, so I'm not going to try to fix it, but perhaps the redirect can be deleted if it is not appropriate. (Note that 'fish belly' was a description used for a distinctive form of early railway rail (see Permanent way).)
-- EdJogg (talk) 12:08, 9 July 2010 (UTC) -- not watching page - please contact via User Talk if needed
Edit request from 71.167.193.101, 11 July 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} Twinkie: (US) A racial slur for being asian on the outside and white on the inside, hinted by the appearance of an Twinkie pastry.
71.167.193.101 (talk) 14:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 14:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Surprised "Swamp Rat" was not included. It was used primarily during the Vietnam War to describe Vietnamese soldiers and the Viet-Cong.
Also, Wop also refers to Italians who arrived to America "Without Papers", or documentation as to where they were from or their profession. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.85.204 (talk) 17:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 71.229.209.0, 15 July 2010
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This article is missing one. "Feather headed prairie nigger" Refers to Native Americans in the United States.
71.229.209.0 (talk) 20:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Won't be added without a reliable source (and no, UrbanDictionary is not a reliable source). OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Not done: SpigotMap 20:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Nine4dnine, 21 July 2010
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One more ethnic slur that is used in reference to peoples of samoan decent is the word, "primates". This is common in the pacific northwestern united states.
Nine4dnine (talk) 05:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Algebraist 08:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 69.123.204.4, 26 July 2010
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White Devil --used to refer to all white people
Savages -- all white peope
pale faces -- all white people
shaved monkeys --white people
cave dwellers --white people
knuckle draggers -- white people
pinky --white people
kike --jews
69.123.204.4 (talk) 00:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Pale Face???? I think you have been watching to many old cowboy and indian flicks. Sirwinston2u (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Portagee?
I'm Portuguese, specifically Azorean, and I've never heard of it used in a negative sense. I've typically heard it mainly from Portuguese people, to be honest, I never knew it was supposed to be an insult.15:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caelestis Filius (talk • contribs)
Edit Request - Dubious source
The term Aussie has been added by a vandal as a joke entries and should be removed. A citation has been added to avoid being moved to the quarantine section but the citation is fraudulent. "Aussie" is not an ethnic slur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metaformattor (talk • contribs) 05:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- it was an attempt to win a forum pissing contest: http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?p=1268940#post1268940 64.243.27.22 (talk) 15:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Attempted to validate citation using several online booksellers, no hits on the verbatim title, nor were there any works with a similar title/author combination. Citation is clearly illegitimate. Zenmervolt (talk) 17:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- In order to view the debate ("pissing contest") in question one needs to be a member of at least 15 posts on that particular forum. In summary, an administrator of Wikipedia abused his powers in order to appease his girlfriend that personally doesn't identify with the term "Aussie". Chesrscale (talk) 20:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed it, as I was unable to verify the existence of the book (tried two different ISBN databases). OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:57, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Dubious entry
I have removed the following dubious and unsourced entry from the article:
- ABC: A childish term common in the UK for "African Bum Cleaner", originally targeted for non-white people but can be used for any person.
I don't see the "Quarantine section" mentioned at the top of this talk page, but I trust this will suffice. Cgingold (talk) 23:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Quarantining" is optional, anyway. It's for things you suspect might be true but can't find a way to prove it. Obvious made-up entries can just be deleted. In this case, it does seem to 'exist', but that doesnt prove it's actually understood when used, which is important to the claim of being an ethnic slur. —Soap— 11:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I've reinstated this term, with the reference provided. It is quite clearly an ethnic slur and when the "joke" is played it is revealed in full what the letters stand for. When I originally added this, I did not know it was used in Australia as well. So it is obviously more common than I thought. It is a slur, it wasn't made up by me and there is a reference to it, therefore it should qualify to be included. 02:00, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
The word "Goy" is not an ethnic slur
The term "Goy" is a word in Hebrew meaning "Nation" meaning the nations other than the Jews or an individual who is not Jewish. It is not an ethnic slur at all. Please include a source for your entry or modify it. A term you might want to include is "Vampire" which is a derogatory term used by Arabs against Jews. It is a reference to the known forgery "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and the blood libel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirwinston2u (talk • contribs) 12:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Saying that the term "goy" is derogatory is like saying that the terms Russian or Pole or Italian are derogatory, simply because someone might have used them in the spirit of "(damned) Russians, Poles or Italians." "Goy" is not intrinsically derogatory at all and to say so is casting Jews who use the term in a harmless manner (ie: anyone who speaks Yiddish or Hebrew as a first language) as being racist. Bad idea, and hope that you look into this. Sirwinston2u (talk) 13:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
What about "infidel" as it is used by Muslims to denote everyone else and in a definitely unflattering way. There is just no nice way to refer to someone as "infidel" is there?
'Brit': i am surprised that Brit' is not included as a slur, and indeed is used by one of the contributors. 'Brit' is a word i never heard here in Britain, until the 1970s when it was popularised (if not invented) by Irish Republicans (the ones who terrorised Great Britain, funded by 'sympathisers' in the USA) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.115.241 (talk) 15:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from Halsla84, 16 September 2010
{{edit semi-protected}}
IdrA - A non-native south korean with a temper management problem
Halsla84 (talk) 12:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
U.S. Definition of "Coconut"
"(US) a Hispanic person trying to be 'white'."
That description alone is more bigoted than the word itself because it implies that ALL Hispanics are brown or not white. That lie is a product of brown racism and has been carried by the ignorant poorly-informed Anglo media. Hispanic isn't a race. HISPANIC ISN'T A RACE. HISPANIC ISN'T A RACE AND IT'S NOT A COLOR EITHER.[3]
The real meaning of coconut is a person of dark complexion "acting white," i.e. partially or fully assimilated into American society. Quit using La Raza as a source. 75.199.200.210 (talk) 08:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)