Wikipedia talk:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer/Historical

Reviewer group requested in Bugzilla

Hi folks, the reviewer group has been requested in Bugzilla as bug 23922

..and that request was filled earlier today. -- RobLa (talk) 23:57, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Setting up some practice space

I am currently setting up some practice opportunities at the flagged revisions testwiki for new reviewers to try out the tools. As soon as this is all lined up, I will start activating the permissions here. It's important for folks to see what the fancy buttons do in a fairly realistic setting, before starting to work on live articles. Risker (talk) 06:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

We'll also have testing pages in WP space. Cenarium (talk) 13:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Where

Where exactly is 'here'??? Not trying to be rude just want clarification. Thanks. petiatil ^{»User »Contribs} 11:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, very good idea. Aaroncrick ^TALK 11:34, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

For those who are interested in trying things out, you can go to http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org, create an account, and go to Talk:Main Page on that site to ask for reviewer permissions. They have now been configured. I've set up a few pages with some pending edits (more will be coming later when I have time), and you can test out the features. Risker (talk) 21:19, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Tried fixing the mdashes per MoS on Regulamentul Organic but, apparently, the edit has to be reviewed? Interesting. Good to see how it works, and thanks for setting up the test pages. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Not archived

User Courcelles' bunch of approvals don't seem to have been included in Archive 1, including me. Thanks. Tony (talk) 05:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Because most of those people didn't request it here. The only people in the archive are those who've requested it here and been approved (or disapproved, but I've yet to see that happen). Many admins have been giving it out to editors they know and many editors have just been asking for it on the talk pages of admins they know, rather like rollback. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 05:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I requested here (second to do so). If it's inconsequential—i.e., not going to be used as a mailing list or to check on who's who—don't worry. Tony (talk) 12:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done I added the early grantings from Courcelles to the archive thanks to the page history. My that was a lot of fun checking to make sure i didn't add a duplicate entry. It seems that only those cleared before the archive was created were missing. [1] My apologies if i have missed someone from later on. Those added are are myself, fetchcomms, sephia karta, Tony1, Nikkimaria, Mjroots2, Mkativerata, Dabomb87, Falcorian, LtPowers, Mikemoral, TreasuryTag, Anna Lincoln, Favonian, Phil Bridger, Tryptofish, and LiberalFascist. delirious & lost ☯ ^{~talk to her~} 03:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Archive link carrying over to main permissions page

Is there a way to stop a redlink to an erroneous "archive" from showing up on the main permissions page, or is this intentional? N/A0 05:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Two ways- write out the full link or stick it in noninclude tags. I'm lazy and the archive is temporary (until we can get a proper archiving system going when things have calmed down) so I went with the latter. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

A few practicalities?

Perhaps I've missed these links; but if I haven't, may I suggest the following?

1. A list of the users who are running the trial (handy for communication, feedback, etc).
2. A formal page in which reviewers can provide feedback and ask queries, right from the start.
3. A list of the pages that are in the trial.

The Help page doesn't seem to have such links.

I guess I'm likely to watchlist a few controversial pages so I can get some practice and observe how other reviewers are dealing with the facility. Is this a good strategy? Tony (talk) 12:25, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Just for the links, most of the activity seems to be at WP:REVIEWER and its talk page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Userbox

Has a userbox been created yet for those with Reviewer rights? It would probably be like the Template:User wikipedia/rollback userbox, with a category added too. - BilCat (talk) 17:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

• Please... no. I remember a category; Category:Cold War survivors (that held user pages, not articles) being deleted, in part, because 90% of Wikipedians could fit into it. That's how this flag should be, IMO, so common it doesn't need to be displayed/categorised. Courcelles (talk) 22:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Well we have one that just says "this user is a Wikipedian", I think 100% of Wikipedians would fit into that! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

A userbox, sure, but I'm fairly certain we don't have such a category- and that if we did, it wouldn't survive CFD. Courcelles (talk) 22:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes but do we have a userbox that says - "This user is not a Wikipedian but would like to be one someday" - maybe one shoud be created? Just a thought and you my slap me if you so wish :-) --Wintonian (talk) 00:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

• Template:User wikipedia/Reviewer. DuncanHill (talk) 22:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I updated the user box to make use of the logo that is found on the Polish WP pl:Szablon:User redaktor, Polish WikiSource wikisource:pl:Szablon:User redaktor, and German WP de:User:✓/Vorlagen/Sichter user boxes for their comparable "Editor" right. It may go by a different name here but it is essentially the same thing and for continuity it seemed appropriate to use it rather than a patroller logo. delirious & lost ☯ ^{~talk to her~} 05:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I approve. I also fixed the other one. :) ^Avicenna_sis @ 05:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks I'll have one of those. Good job. --Wintonian (talk) 00:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

The given Howto is wrong

This is the given in the edit window:

• {{subst:rfp|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}|Reason for requesting Reviewer rights}} ~~~~

And this is what you should do:

• Fill in the form below, replacing "Username" with your username,

I simply did what I know from cryptic wikipedia, but this time it failed me. It sounds stupid but this is exactly why people think wikisyntax his hard to get and unfriendly for new users. Change it!--Stone (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out. I've modified the header instructions [2]. –xeno^talk 18:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

...and a number of errors in the various other editnotices. Thanks again, –xeno^talk 18:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Currently working on a uniforming fix for all the subpages. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 04:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Script for easy granting of reviewer

• Amalthea (talk · contribs), fount of awesomeness, wrote this at my request:

// simple script to enable the reviewer bit and leave the user a note
 
MakeReviewerConfig = {
    groupReason : "User can be trusted with reviewer",
    sectionHeader : "Reviewer granted",
    sectionBody : "{{subst\:reviewer-notice}} ~~\~~"
};
 
importScript("User:Amalthea/MakeReviewer.js");

Config can be changed or omitted, etc. It adds a button along the top of the screen called "make reviewer". If user doesn't have right, it grants it, and in either case, it leaves the message. –xeno^talk 20:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

On denying requests for reviewer permission

Comments invited: Wikipedia talk:Reviewing#On denying requests for reviewer permission. –xeno^talk 15:49, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Can I add two topicons to my user page?

I've recently been granted Reviewer rights and I have a question regarding the topicon. Is it possible to display both my Reviewer and Rollbacker topicons on my user page? And if so, how? I added both of them to my page and one isn't displaying. Thanks. Shannon! talk 19:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Try adding |icon_nr=2 to one of them. –xeno^talk 19:51, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Can someone explain why I was declined reviewer status?

Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Reviewer/Declined archive 1#User:Anthonyhcole There is nothing in my record to indicate I can't recognize vandalism, or BLP or copyright violations; quite the contrary, actually. It is very clear from the AN/I referred to by the declining admin that I understand NLT - in fact I made the most significant recent change to the policy. [3] Anthony (talk) 00:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

• I've added administrator instructions that clarify that this right should not be denied based on recent blocks or noticeboard threads, further to Wikipedia talk:Reviewing/Archive 2#On denying requests for reviewer permission. Tweak as desired. –xeno^talk 21:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Xeno. Anthony (talk) 06:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Good idea Xeno, but should Admins not have to read these guidelines first before wieldimg their latest weapons.  Giacomo  07:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

This trial has been somewhat haphazard from the start, with discussions on it occurring pretty much everywhere. It definitely could have been handled better. –xeno^talk 15:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

• Trial? What on earth leads you to believe this is a trial? This is here to stay, I suggest you get used to that idea and the attendant admin abuse that is going to come with it.  Giacomo  21:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps the wording on Wikipedia:Pending changes? It very clearly states, "Pending changes is a new tool undergoing a two-month trial on the English Wikipedia." (emphasis added) ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I doubt very much it will be a trial, it has been embraced too strenuously by too many for that. Many Admins do not give up any of their eagerly grasped and clawed new shiny buttons easily.  Giacomo  07:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

It very well may end up being permanent. Regardless of the eventuality, it is currently a trial. Denying that doesn't make it any less so. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Archived?

Why has my request been archived without anyone saying whether its been accepted or not? Tomd2712 | Tell me something? 22:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

The admin probably neglected to add the "Done" tag. Your request was accepted - see here for the log. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

(I just saw this.) The permission was granted, the request was marked with {{done}} and a note was left on your talkpage. —DoRD (talk) 21:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Aha, I now see what happened. The request was accidentally archived by another editor before it was acted on, then it was returned to the request page [4] where I did as I described above. Sorry for the confusion. —DoRD (talk) 21:06, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, that was my fault. I highlighted too many requests. My apologies, —Mikemoral♪♫ 02:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Not autoconfirmed?

I tried to add myself to the request list, but upon confirming my edit I was given the notice 'Note: This page has been semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it.' I checked the autoconfirmed users information, and I'm pretty sure I pass for a user who should be autoconfirmed. Can anyone please help me by explaining why I am not one? Thanks. Jack?! 23:16, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

An auto confirmed user is someone who has been a wiki user for 4 days and has more than 10 edits. That notice will always show up even if you are auto confirmed. Joe Gazz84 (user)•(talk)•(contribs) 23:24, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see! This autoconfirmed thing is reasonably new to me so I was a bit confused when I saw the message but also had to click save twice (because no headline was required). Sorry and thanks, now added my request. Jack?! 23:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Third party requests

Can someone point me to the discussion where third-party requests were decided against? I'm a little concerned that I'm missing some part of this, given that somewhere between me looking silly for questioning a third party request three weeks ago and HJM being made to look silly for granting a third party request today something definitely changed! I'm not arguing with the direction it went in - I agree that people should ask for rights when they feel they want it - but I'm just wanting to make sure I'm not oblivious to things I should be aware of. ~ mazca ^talk 21:38, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, MZM is on the list of people who generally don't want to be given reviewer rights, so that might have caused the difference you noticed. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that one, but I got the impression that third-party requests in general were suddenly not the done thing. I'm just kind of concerned that discussions about granting reviewer rights are going on somewhere I'm missing - as a convenient example, I wouldn't have been aware of that lurking page in "database reports" either, and could have made the same mistake. ~ mazca ^talk 22:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Well personally, I wouldn't grant a 3rd party request unless there was confirmation that the user actually wanted the permission. The fact that this was for MZM and I'm aware that he has some strong opinions on the matter removed any doubt. —DoRD (talk) 22:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Drbraikeet, 14 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

i request to add photos for the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madawi_Al-Rasheed about Madawi_Al-Rasheed

drbraikeet 09:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: This is a completely unrelated project page. Please go to the page you are talking about. If you own images of the individual and wish to upload them, see this page. If you have found an image on Wikipedia that you wish to insert into the page, please see this page. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask on my talk page. Thank you. sonia^♫♪ 10:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Exlady09, 1 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

I know i opened my account just now but could you please add an award to Nick Jonas' credit. Nick Jonas won the Artist of the year award at the 12th Annual Young Hollywood Awards earlier this year on May 13th 2010.

Source: younghollywoodawards.com

Exlady09 (talk) 06:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: Please place the edit request on the page you wish to change. Stickee (talk) 08:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

How do I remove reviewer rights from an editor

Another thing I don't know, sigh. How do I remove reviewer rights? Is there an Admin guide to this somewhere? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 07:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• The same way you grant them, go to Special:UserRights, unclick reviewer, and save it. I don't think we're supposed to do it without the editor requesting it or a discussion, though. --Courcelles 07:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Or if they are blatantly abusing the privilege. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I presume a long block history and pov editing are enough to remove something that probably shouldn't have been granted anyway? Dougweller (talk) 09:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe not. It's been suggested that a history of being blocked for edit-warring is not a reason not to grant reviewer rights. That clearly is the case in practice - and I rush to say that I'm not blaming anyone for doing this, just questioning the wisdom of it. If the consensus is this is not a reason not to grant reviewer rights, I'll accept that consensus. Dougweller (talk) 13:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The consensus is, during the test, that since the bit effectively restores the rights autoconfirmed users had prior to pending changes, to be rather liberal in its application. After the test concludes, and if pending changes is implemented officially, who knows? —DoRD (talk) 14:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Dougweller (talk) 14:57, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, see Wikipedia talk:Reviewing/Archive 2#On denying requests for reviewer permission for more. The same basic argument applies to removing the rights already in place. –xeno^talk 20:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Request templete error

My request seems garbled. Can anyone fix this, please? Phearson (talk) 01:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what happened, but I fixed it. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 01:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

The template is designed to automatically add the requesting username, but Phearson edited it manually. The only part of the template that should be touched is the reason. Thanks for fixing it, though! —DoRD (talk) 01:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jordan123235, 25 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} how do i become a reviewer?

Jordan123235 (talk) 00:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Usually you would add a request to the reviewer request page. However, since you only have 11 edits, you're unlikely to be successful. I would encourage you to keep editing for a while and consider applying in a few months. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 00:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

New username

Hi, I'm a reviewer on this account but I'm going to have a fresh start with a new username? Is it possible if I could get reviewing rights without having much edits??--Saki ^talk 15:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean you're going to be renamed? If so, your contribution history will transfer to your new username, and gaining reviewer shouldn't be a problem. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Wordhigh, 21 September 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

Please change "Schizophrenia (pronounced /ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder" to "5% of Schizophrenics don't need medicine."

-- Crime & Investigation Network | http://ci.tv | on AT&T Broadband TV

Thank You for your Kin-sideration, The Hollman | Marcus http://z.wordhigh.com Wordhigh (talk) 12:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, this request is misplaced. Please place it at Talk:Schizophrenia. You will also need a more specific source than the base url you have given. Thank you. sonia♫ 12:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Sethx123, 26 September 2010

{{edit semi-protected}}

Sethx123 (talk) 03:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC) Hello can you guys change Alex Rodriguez home run record it says is 604 but he has 611 home runs here is my source http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3115

This is not the correct place, please see Talk:Alex Rodriguez. Nakon 03:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Salasan, 30 September 2010

User:Salasan

• Salasan · (talk · contribs · deleted · cross-wiki · wikichecker · count · pages created · logs · block log · lu · rfar · rfc · rfcu · ssp · spi · search an, ani, cn, an3) (assign permissions)

Need to add image in "Akividu" page for both english and telugu versions Salasan (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Salasan (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)