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September 28

how can I view the arbitrator and checkuser mailing lists?

this is not a productive discussion

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Resolved

– This is in all likelihood not a legitimate request for help; and answers have been provided. Doc9871 (talk) 03:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

without becoming an arbitrator or a checkuser, i mean. i wuld like to read the things they r talking about, and i believe it should be public knowledge, so please explain where i can read this info.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 23:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer is: you cannot, nor should you be able to. Arbitrators and CheckUsers handle a lot of sensitive information, and they need to be able to discuss it in private. It is so difficult to become an Arbitrator or checkuser precisely because they handle this kind of information; it would defeat the purpose of having private mailing lists if you could read them. However, the Arbitrators and Checkusers do release some portions of this information, from time to time; enough to fulfil the purpose of having such information. You can read Arbitrators' comments and reports at WP:ARBN and WP:RFAR, and Checkusers' comments at WP:SPI. Intelligentsium 23:51, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ok but i wanted to read the mailing lists but if i am not allowed due to matters of privacy and things like this, i understand, but still i am disappoitned because i really really wanted to read them :-(--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 23:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

also, wut if they r talking about me behind my back and saying rude things (e.g., Bad edits r dumb is dumb). Don't I have a right to know?--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 23:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You mean, what if the Arbitrators and Checkusers are talking about you behind your back and saying rude things about you on their private mailing list? I think you misunderstand how much trust the community must show in a user, for that user to become a Checkuser or Arbitrator. It is several times more difficult than becoming an administrator, perhaps even more so than becoming a bureaucrat. It is exceedingly unlikely that these users would be discussing you behind your back (unless they suspect you of sockpuppetry or an equally serious offence, of course), and even if they are they would not be so coarse as to say you are "dumb" (I realise you are only using this as an example, but still). If someone wanted to make rude comments about you behind your back, they could do it without being an arbitrator or Checkuser. Intelligentsium 01:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To even be considered to be added to it, or view the archives you have to be 1.) 18+, 2.) Identified to the WMF, and 3.) a checkuser or part of arbcom, in my understanding. Pilif12p : Yo 01:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I would recommend saving your breath here. "Bad edits r dumb" thinks he's being cute and funny, but he's really just wasting your time for his own amusement. What editor refers to themselves in the third person, as in, "Please do not threaten Bad edits r dumb."? He's perfectly capable of typing normally, and is observed by many to exhibit "trollish" behavior with his comments and refusal to act like a "normal" editor. Don't feed him. Doc9871 (talk) 03:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK I am sorry for ask this very dumb question. I tried to ask in a serios manner, but maybe it sounded too much troll-like and dumb.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 05:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic. Keep fighting vandalism, and be as "irreverent" as you want with your humor: but please don't waste serious editor's responses to questions as absurd as the one you asked. WP is not a joke... Doc9871 (talk) 05:13, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you have proven via your latest efforts, the high level of experience and competence you show (when you want to), as well as your own issues (which overlap this) concerning your old account, that you are fully aware of all of this, and are thus wasting the HelpDesk's time. ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 05:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But i sed i was sorry for my action. i just dont like it when the ArbCom talks abt me behind my back, that's all but maybe i should have kept this concerns to myself.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 05:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hiding feedback box

Howdy all. Is there any way I can hide the feedback boxes? Like the one shown on this page? Perhaps via my skin css?--Rockfang (talk) 00:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can add div.article-assessment-wrapper { display:none; } to your skinfile. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That worked wonderfully.--Rockfang (talk) 13:55, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

EN.wikipedia.org Appearance after Log in

Hi!

Before I log on en.wikipedia.org in the page appears in its new design, with the search field on the top right and the rest of the new features, but AFTER I log in it appears in its old design, with the search field on the left.

This happens with Mozilla Firefox 3.6.10, Opera 10.62 and Microsoft Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702.

This does NOT happen on de.wikipedia.org, fr.wikipedia.org or ro.wikipedia.org after I log in there.

Why is that so and how can I remedy it?

Thank You very much!

All my best!

The new features must be turned off for you. Consider clicking the "New Features" link next to your username if you want to switch to Vector. The Utahraptor ^{Talk to me}/_{Contributions} 00:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandra Powers Photos

A photo of Alexandra Powers is needed on her wikipedia page. Would any of this pictures be acceptable?: http://www.aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=14027 http://www.tvspielfilm.de/stars/star/alexandra-powers,1571496,ApplicationGallery.html?page=5 http://www.flixster.com/actor/alexandra-powers Please let me know if any of these photos are acceptable for her wikipedia page. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 00:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but no, they wouldn't. #1 and #3 look like a screen shots of a film and therefore the copyright would be owned by the production company of the film. And #2 is probably a promotional photo from a film or TV series and again would belong to the production company. You might have better luck with getting a photo for the article if you were to write to Powers directly or her manager. You would need to explain that the image would need to be released under a free license. Dismas|^(talk) 03:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Search Flickr for images with the keywords: Alexandra Powers under these licenses: cc-by or cc-by-sa finds nothing promising, unfortunately. Note that very few Wikipedia articles need photos; photos are merely nice to have in most cases. Wikipedia has a common problem with the lack of freely-licensed photographs of celebrities. Often we can only show candid photographs of poor quality, since most of the professional-quality photographs of celebrities will be under copyright. I would like to see copyright law abolished. I'm surprised the political right doesn't embrace this as a core value, as it would shrink the size of government needed to cook up and administer copyright laws. --Teratornis (talk) 08:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Historical building

Am I allowed to create a page for the historical building I live in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluehaus (talk • contribs) 01:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If the building is notable, and you can find reliable sources, then an article can be written about it.--Rockfang (talk) 04:15, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tell us the name of the building so we can give it the Google test (a sufficient but not necessary indication of notability). --Teratornis (talk) 08:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PROBLEM IN ACCESSING TO THE TAGGED SITE OF ICONS - FRIENDS, MESSAGES

Hello customer service,

Please check the problems -

When I open the email, and click the icons of friends, messages - shows -

Waiting for yahoo.search - sorry, the page you were searching could not be found - and then it shows - click onto the tagged site, login - and then shows - YAHOO! 404 - page not found.

I wish to inform the customer office at the help desk on the tagged site BUT could not even ACCESS TO THEM AND INFORM THEM!

PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW TO CONTACT THE HELP DESK AT THE TAGGED SITE & IT DOES NOT GET INTO THE HELP DESK WHEN CLICK ON IT.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.177.150 (talk) 06:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, you found the wrong place. This is the help desk of Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia. You need to find the help desk for the service that is giving you trouble. --Jayron32 06:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool signature trick--how to do it

Hello everyone on the Help Desk. Many years ago, I saw a Wikipedia editor who had a special signature and the signature did not link DIRECTLY to his user page--I think maybe it was a redirect or something that goes to his user page. The point of this is so you could look at the "Wut links here" special feature and it would just show the times that people are talking ABOUT you but it won't include all the times you signed your signature. I am probably not explaining this very well, but I would like to implement this, because I LOVE to know when people are talking about me, but when I click on What links here, it mostly shows when I signed my name on vandals pages when I was warning them. How do I do it, and is it allowed? OK, thx for your help.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:SIGNATURE, a signature must link to either an editor's user page or talk page. Many signatures link to both. I'm not sure that what you are asking would be allowed. Mjroots (talk) 07:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a guideline or a policy and how strictly is it enforced? Again, this was several years ago but it was a very respected editor who used to do this, but maybe it was before WP:SIGNATURE was written.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 07:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SIGNATURE says at the top:

"This page documents an English Wikipedia behavioral guideline."

I have no idea how strictly it is enforced. WP:IAR implies you can break any rule on Wikipedia as long as you can convince the rule enforcers you are improving the encyclopedia. (If a rule is a policy, that probably means almost nobody can justify breaking it. If it's a guideline, then maybe a few users can justify breaking it.) How would doing what you want to do improve the encyclopedia? How would adding a nonstandard and potentially confusing (to other users) link to your signature be better than just adding the link to your user page? Any link on your user page is reachable from your signature, with an extra click. Speaking for myself only, I can't imagine why Wikipedia allows users to customize their signatures - it would never have occurred to me to add such a feature, not when there are so many more useful things Wikipedia users can do with their time. --Teratornis (talk) 08:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I may be listed as a guideline, but it is de facto a policy. It is implemented quite strictly when breaches are discovered. The reason for this is that not having any links to a user page or talk page makes communication with that editor that much harder. I agree that there are some ghastly signatures, but as long as they conform with the guideline, I'll defend an editors right to use a custom sig until such time as consensus changes and outlaws them (which'll probably be about the 12th of Never). Mjroots (talk) 08:25, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You could probably comply with the guideline by linking to your user-talk page directly, and your userpage via a redirect (which you should place in your own userspace, to avoid cluttering up any other part of the wiki). --ais523 13:12, 30 September 2010 (U T C)

My comapny would like to be part of Wikipedia

Dear Wikipedia representative,

I am writing to you on behalf of my company (TechTeam Global) to ask a basic question.

We would like to be part of your site to facilitate information gathering when users surf on the Internet to retrieve news/info about us.

We are leaders in Service Desk Outsourcing with a global foot-print.

How can I create a page about us?

Should we sak special permissions?

Please let me know

Thank you

Giuseppe Bellia

Marketing Project Manager TechTeam Global —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.54.253 (talk) 12:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, welcome to wikipedia. I have left a list of links on your talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk%3A69.41.54.253 that should help to explain how to get started at Wikipedia. I strongly suggest that you give the areas around Conflict of Interest, Notability and Neutral Point of View particular attention - Being as you are a representative of a company that wants to create an article about that company. Darigan (talk) 12:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confused

Earlier this month I found a Page that listed all the pages that had notability issues and it was was organized by month the tags were put in place. Does any body know where that is? I want to help with the back log and can't find it The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 13:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one! Dismas|^(talk) 13:06, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And the parent cat. Dismas|^(talk) 13:07, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanx!The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 13:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

error

hi would like to know how an artical can be changed if it is wrong. well just one part on the artical says out of 6 children one is deceased which is not true all 6 are alive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.80.123.42 (talk) 14:11, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Click the "edit" link on the article and change the text or tell us which article it is and we can edit it. -- kainaw ™ 14:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And make sure you have a reference or two to support your changes. – ukexpat (talk) 14:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awareness Ribbons

I see that the American Heart Association Ribbon isn't included on he awareness ribbons page list. How can I get it added to the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.214.4.21 (talk) 14:37, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It appears you mean List of awareness ribbons. Can you link to a page with information and image of the ribbon? I couldn't find it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I could not find Shannon Grove in the deletion log

I put an article up on Shannon Grove, a candidate for California's 18th Senate District. Because she is the only viable candidate, she will be the State Senator come January. My article disappeared. I checked the deletion log and there was nothing. I redid a shorter version of the aricle unde myspace. Why, even though I put my article into the area where you are supposed to put it until it is reviewed, why was I not notified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda robinett (talk • contribs) 14:45, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion log entry reads:

15:10, September 27, 2010 Bearcat (talk | contribs) deleted "Shannon Grove" ‎ (Blatant advertising)

Please read WP:SPAM and WP:POLITICIAN - candidates for office, unless they are otherwise notable, are not notable merely because they are candidates. – ukexpat (talk) 14:49, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "article" simply said that she exists and that she is a candidate for this senate seat; then listed her campaign website URL. That is neither assertion nor evidence of any kind of notability. As a biography of a living person, it would have been deleted anyway, since it was unsourced. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You saved it at Shannon Grove which is in the mainspace encyclopedia where real articles are. It was tagged with {{New unreviewed article}} in {{New unreviewed article|source=ArticleWizard|date=September 2010}} but that doesn't prevent deletion of inappropriate articles. You later created User:Linda robinett/Shannon grove which is in your userspace and gives you more freedom to work on drafts. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Create a page about my company

Hi I would like to create a page about my company, an advertising and marketing agency. Do you have directions that you could supply me with so I can create a page? Appreciate any help.

Best,

Marisa Marcus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.238.25.236 (talk) 15:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a complex business and the company may not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria, but in any event see WP:YFA, but before that please read WP:FAQO, WP:CORP, WP:SPAM, WP:RS and WP:COI. WikiCompany may be a better outlet for you. – ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just to explain the acronyms: YFA = Your first article, FAQO = FAQ/Organizations, CORP = Notability (companies and organizations), SPAM = Spam, RS = Identifying reliable sources, and COI = Conflict of interest. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 00:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to edit Reference List

Computer Appliance Wiki Page. I select Edit Reference section and don't understand what I am looking at. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyKok (talk • contribs) 17:55, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The references are not actually listed in the reference section. Instead, they are listed in the body of the article (where you see the superscript numerals). You'll need to edit the sections where the superscripts appear in order to edit the references. TN X Man 18:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See more at Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Autoconfirmation

How do I know if my account is Autoconfirmed or not? Is there a way to check it? Sneharaj27 (talk) 18:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm not mistaken, your account will be autoconfirmed in about thirty minutes. It kicks in after four days and ten edits. TN X Man 18:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the account creation is here. Special:Preferences should now show "Member of groups: Autoconfirmed users, Users" for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Using an image with full permission of the image's owner

I have attempted four or five times to upload an image for inclusion in an article which I have written and uploaded. All of the information in the article is used with the full permission of the person about whom the article was written. The image comes from this person's website, and again is used with her full permission.

As noted, I have uploaded the image a number of times, each time adding more information in the image's description to indicate that the image is being used with the full cooperation and permission of the subject of the image. However, the image still does not appear on the page. What have I done wrong or neglected to do?

The page is Raquel Bitton, and the image's final name (after numerous uploads) is Raquel_Bitton_Singing.jpg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddruker (talk • contribs) 19:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the page for you a little indicating the source of the image. There are two places you can read more about getting the image released for Wikipedia use - this page and this page. If you have any questions after reading those, please feel free to post here again. TN X Man 20:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note though that a release solely for use on Wikipedia is not sufficient. It must be a release for all purposes, otherwise the image will be tagged for deletion as it will not meet any of the non-free use criteria. – ukexpat (talk) 20:07, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair Use Question

If I wanted to use a screenshot of a computer program under fair use, would I have to be the one who took the screenshot, or could I find a screenshot online and use it? Similarly with using the DVD cover of a movie for identification, would I actually have to take the picture of the dvd cover, or could I find one online (eg. from Amazon if they are selling the dvd)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spines11 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The photographer who took the picture would be the copyright holder of that photograph, seems to me. You cannot just assume that the image online is not copyrighted. The burden is on you to create your own fair use image. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about an official picture of the DVD cover from the studio? And with regards to a screenshot, does the screenshot count as a derivative work even if the screenshot of the program would be the same no matter who took the screenshot? Spines11 (talk) 21:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Spines11[reply]

It seems there was already a discussion a while ago about using images taken from amazon. A line put in some of the fair use rationales of images from amazon reads "Derived from a digital capture of the album cover (creator of this digital version is irrelevant as the copyright in all equivalent images is still held by the same party). ". The old page about using images from Amazon can be found here: Wikipedia_talk:Images_from_Amazon.com. So, it seems that digital scans and such of album or book covers are fine to take from Amazon. However, I'm still unsure about computer screenshots. Spines11 (talk) 21:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Spines11[reply]

The copyright experts hang out at media copyright questions so you may be better off asking there. However, there is a template for non-free screenshots, see {{Non-free software screenshot}}, and for non-free DVD covers, see {{Non-free video cover}}. The non-free use rationale template for the latter is {{film cover fur}}. – ukexpat (talk) 01:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you post a question there, be prepared to wait a few days for an answer. I've asked a few questions there and I think my quickest response was at least 48 hours after I asked. Dismas|^(talk) 02:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well that depends on who's logged in and watching that page

. – ukexpat (talk) 14:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 29

Last Updated

Wikipedia entries should have a "Last Updated" at the top of the page so you know if you are reading two year old information about a current subject. Some of the stuff hasn't been updated in awhile and this would give readers a better way to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.81.40.145 (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The bottom of pages say "This page was last modified on ...". However, it may have been any edit, for example correcting a spelling error or reverting vandalism. There are around 3.5 million articles and unfortunately we don't have resources to keep all of them up to date. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One of the best ways to check out when and how an article was last updated is to simply look at an article's history. Simply click on the "history" tab at the top of the page to access it; here, you will find all the edits made to the article in the course of history, with the latest appearing at the top. You can look at what changed in specific edits by looking at their diffs, too. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 03:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading copyright protected image as an unconfirmed user

Could you please post the instructions how to upload the file as an unconfirmed user? I would like to upload a logo File:SCWISTlogo.gif for this non-profit organization: SCWIST and have very difficult time with it. I tried on Wikipedia commons but they took the image off because it is protected and the licence belongs to SCWIST. I also tried to post a request at Wikipedia:Files for upload but I cannot find my request anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpeji (talk • contribs) 05:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simply put, you cannot upload until you become autoconfirmed. This happens automagically after 4 days and ten edits. You have been here for several months, but as of now, you have 9 edits. If you make one more edit, to anything, including this page confirming you understand what I just said, you will be autoconfirmed, and should be able to upload. --Jayron32 06:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And even when it is uploaded, as it is a copyrighted image, it can only be used with an appropriate non-free use rationale, see WP:LOGOS. This means that you must add the {{Logo fur}} template to the image, filling in all the required fields (see the template documentation) and tag the image with the {{non-free logo}} notice. – ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

photo usage or download

I cant find how to download buddha foto at buddha. I hav tried all. Kindly help me. E mail- <email removed>. If u answer via e mail, it would be better. Thanks. Mukesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by V8870 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your email. As you were told in big red letters when you posted here, please do not provide email, as answers will be given here. Generally, in most browsers, images can be downloaded by "right clicking" on the image and selecting "save image" from the menu that comes up. Without knowing which browser you have, it is impossible to know how you should do it. --Jayron32 05:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case you are unsure of the terminology, download means to copy an image from Wikipedia to your own computer. Upload means to copy an image from your own computer to Wikipedia. Is it really a download you want to make? In that case, left click on the image first to get to an image page which often has a better quality version of the image. If you still have problems then what is the image name? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need help with picture formatting on article...

For the past month, I've been working on the Bartow, Florida article and I think I've improved it substantially(see last edit before I started editing it here ). I've added a bunch of images(spent a lot of time finding images on commons, on the internet which were free(per Wikipedia policy) or public domain(published before 1923). I'd like to eventually get this article up to FA and know I have some work to do to get there. The problem I am having right now is I just read on some GA review page that a picture should not be on the left side at the start of a subsection(one which starts with "==="). I didn't know that when I put the most recent couple of pictures in and although I like the selection of pictures, I can't seem to change things around without "breaking" the formatting of the article.

I guess what I need is help from someone who has the time and some knowledge of technical issues (especially pictures) who can help me place the pictures in the right place. What I'd like to "see" is the Jacob Summerlin picture moved down without messing up the rest of the pictures and text formatting. Of course, having a fresh set of eyes, you might find a better place for some of the pictures and feel free to do what looks right to you. I'm using a netbook and I know my screen resolution is odd so my "view" of the page might be skewed by my resolution of the monitor anyway. Also any help or advice on the article itself would be great. I won't get hurt if someone decides to help me edit it- I've been pretty much the only person to edit the article in the past 230 edits so a fresh view from someone else would be helpful even if you can't help out with the images. Thanks in advance. VictorianMutant (talk) 09:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of suggestions - try reducing the thumbnail sizes a little, that may help get the images to display where you want them without creating layout problems. If the problem is "bunching of edit links", the {{Fix bunching}} template can fix that. If neither of these suggestions helps, please describe the layout issues in a little more detail here or on my talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, MOS:IMAGES no longer says that images should not be on the left hand side immediately after a sub-section. It used to say that, but the language has been changed. Bencherlite ^Talk 14:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating Articles for Deletion (Step III)

I just nominated Society for Canadian Women in Science and Technology for deletion and followed (or tried to follow) the instructions at Articles for deletion#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion. I did Steps I and II, but Step III made no sense as it seemed that Step II had already accomplished Step III. Anyway, I didn't do Step III, but I'm not sure if I missed something.--Bbb23 (talk) 09:41, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think you did step III with this edit -- John of Reading (talk) 10:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I accomplished Step III with that edit, but I did it as part of Step II (following the first part of the OR instructions in Step II).--Bbb23 (talk) 23:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move images from Wikipedia to Commons

How do I move five images from Wikipedia to the Commons, where they will find companionship with dozens of similar images I've directly uploaded there? --Lou Sander (talk) 10:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons.-Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Portal Page for the Confederate States

I'm wondering what is the criteria for creating a Portal Page and can anyone create a portal page or does it have to be created by a Syops?-- CC Proctor]], Jesus Saves! 12:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently no portal for the Confederacy. There is, however, a portal for the Civil War. Does that page have the info which you need? You may also find WP:Portal useful. TNXMan 13:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't looking for anything per se, but I thought it might be beneficial to have a portal that deals with things not related to the War. I've come across a substantial amount of information about the Confederacy in general, which could possibly be for use in a portal page. Too much about that period is thrown into the War category, when there was so much more about the Confederacy than just that. So what I'm wanting to know is... by what criteria or format is there for a portal page?-- CC Proctor]], Jesus Saves! 14:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Portal guidelines generally, in particular: "A portal helps to browse on a particular subject, hence the subject of a portal should be broad so that it presents a diversified content. The portal subject area should have enough interest and articles to sustain a portal, including enough quality content articles above a Start-class to sustain the featured content section. To aid in this, the portal should be associated with a WikiProject to help ensure a supply of new material for the portal. The portal layout should be complete or there should be ongoing efforts to make the portal layout complete. The portal should be maintained and serve a useful purpose. Portals should not be a vehicle for advocacy or advertisement, should not have too many red links, should not be redundant of another portal, should not cover too narrow a scope, and should not be inherently POV. "
Looking further ahead, there may be little point in creating a portal that wouldn't pass the WP:Featured portal criteria, particularly this one: "It covers a topic that is broad and interesting. Portals that cover minor topic areas are less useful, because their content is limited. A featured portal covers an area that is sufficiently broad and prominent to justify it as an entry-point. Because portals promote the best of Wikipedia's content, a featured portal is selective in what it displays. It showcases only high-quality content that is preferably already featured."

Hope this helps, Bencherlite ^Talk 16:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, it does.-- CC Proctor, O.B.A.M.A. (One Big Awful Mistake America) 16:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please change your signature - it is disruptive, this is not fark.com. – ukexpat (talk) 16:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can create a portal, but I'd strongly advise against creating a portal that would add little if anything to the Civil War portal, which is a Featured Portal already. (Tnxman, I took the liberty of fixing the dab link to Confederacy, hope you don't mind). Bencherlite ^Talk 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a portal called Portal:American South would be broad enough and would, of course, cover CSA topics. VictorianMutant (talk) 23:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help with english

Hi. I´m looking for an article about the cloth of the driver´s agains fire, but I can´t find it because I dont know the name in english. Can someone help me? Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure of the article for which you are looking. Is there something in Fireproofing or asbestos that matches what you need? If not, post here again and we may be able to help you. TNXMan 14:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. If you have any factual questions, please use the search box or post them on the Reference desk at WP:RD. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:59, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cloth used in a NASCAR Driver's suit consists of many types of cloth used in a particular structure. Some of the types cloth used are: glass fiber yarn, Polyester fiber/filament, Polyamide fiber/filament/wool, Modacrylic, Viscose FR, PVC FR, Meta-Aramid and Para-Aramid. These types of cloth used in combinations comprise Fire Retardant or Flame Resistent cloth.-- Avazina, Jesus Saves! 15:08, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Search Wikipedia with Google for: fire resistant clothing finds several related links such as Nomex, Aramid, History of Formula One regulations, List of fire-retardant materials, etc. --Teratornis (talk) 17:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimi Hendrix - Grammatical correction

I just want report that someone should look at Jimi Hendrix "Early Life" section under Biography, 2nd paragraph, End of the 3rd Line. "Unusually for his era, Hendrix's high school..."

I'm pretty certain it should read "Unusual for his era..."

I could not figure out where to report.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.239.19.30 (talk) 16:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it - thank you for catching that! In the future, you can report mistakes on semi-protected pages either here or on the article's discussion page. TNXMan 16:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile version

Is Wikipedia Mobile Server having issues today, 9/29/2010? When looking at pages on iPhone they are not appearing in the Mobile format. IatroDoc (talk) 18:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

IatroDoc (talk) 18:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Needed

Please advise how to provide a missing citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.148.207 (talk) 18:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To fill in a citation, you generally need to find a independent reliable source that can be used to support a claim in an article. Actually citing the source varies depending on what type of source it is - there is a list on this page. TNXMan 18:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wall Tab

I am connected to a relitive and when I click on the profile page her Wall Tab is not there. I can see her photo's and other tabs. Why is this and what can I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.174.187.10 (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 18:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with userboxes

Hi. Can someone please take a look at my userbox section and tell me why it doesn't look like the source? Since I am sure you guys are much better with code than I am feel free to edit either my userpage or my userboxes to make it work. Thanks, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 18:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are open div's before transcluding the userboxes. I'm not sure which design you want but you can place </div></div> before the transclusion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That sort of fixes it, but now, as you can see, there is another problem. And anyone who knows what to do please just go ahead and fix it. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 02:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Does [1] and [2] do what you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, exactly! Thank you. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 17:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SECRET OF SEX

Nothing to see here, spammy request THENEWMONO 01:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE BODY OF A YOUTH GIRL WHEN SHE SEES A YOUNG NAKED BOY AND VICE VERSA ?

WHAT HAPPENS FROM COLLISION OF EYES BETWEEN BOY AND GIRL ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.99.58.125 (talk) 19:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If wikipedians knew the answers to those questions, do you think they would still be hanging around wikipedia? :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think help desk is the right place to seek answer for such questions. Per page notice, "This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions". DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 19:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Love at first sight is a common trope in Western literature, in which a person, character, or speaker feels romantic attraction for a stranger on the first sight of them. Elaborated upon by poets and critics from the Greek world on, it has become one of the most powerful tropes in Western fiction. It is also considered "The most powerful type of Love".--88.110.100.193 (talk) 19:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Google Search result

I recently requested that the heading of my published article be changed, because it contained a lower case letter where there should've been a capital. That issue has been resolved, and the heading is correct, but the results in Google are still incorrect. More specifically, when you Google 'Zions Bank', the results show a an entry for 'Zions bank' (which has been removed) and not 'Zions Bank'. Is there a way to fix this? Any info is appreciated! Thank you! GiovanniPaush (talk) 19:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Google will see the new name when its web crawler gets round to looking at this part of Wikipedia. Until then, it will show out-of-date results. This is outside Wikipedia's control, so you will just have to be patient. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, click "Cached" on the Google search results page to see when Google indexed the page. It is currently a few hours before the move September 24. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 30

Moving an article from my user page to public space

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Hello,

For one of my classes, I had to create a wikipedia article. I have just about finished the article and need to have it public by Saturday. Right now, the article is in my userspace. How do I make it 'go live' or be visible or searchable to the public?

Thank you!

username: Anneelias —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anneelias (talk • contribs) 00:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm checking it out now. Just wait a couple of seconds and I'll come back with an answer! THENEWMONO 01:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still working... THENEWMONO 01:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I just wanted to make sure the article was suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Good news: it is! Before you publish it, please write a brief introduction (in the lead paragraph, where you have Harry M. Lydenberg in bold) similar to the one in Steve Jobs (but probably not that long) that summarizes the content of the article. After you've done that, just find the arrow at the top of the page (as shown in the image to the right), hover, and select 'move'. Then, type the title of the article (the target of the move: Harry M. Lydenberg) and as the 'reason' type 'Moving userspace draft to mainspace'. Ask me or post here if you need any help/ THENEWMONO 01:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Finding pages whose protection recently expired?

I'm wondering if there's any page (maybe a special page?) that lists pages whose protection/semi-protection has recently expired. This would make it easy to remove the page protection templates from the top of a newly non-protected page. Thanks in advance! --- cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 02:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DumbBOT already does that, but I don't know how it finds them. DMacks (talk) 02:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it uses Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know about DumbBOT. Thanks! --- cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 02:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ahem. --Jayron32 04:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, how does this apply? Trust me, I'm not going to vandalize pages. I'm interested in helping out 'round here. --- cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 04:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With You I'm Born Again

The picture I'm uploading isn't showing up in the Infobox. What's the problem with my picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pat.moriarty92 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There were two "Image" fields in the infobox template. And please sign your posts on the Help Desk (and other 'talk' pages) with four ~'s. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 04:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's the least of this article's problems - how or why is it notable? – ukexpat (talk) 14:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IRC

I want to access the Wikipedia IRC channels without having to download anything, not even Addons. I am aware of the possibility to go through http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help, but I seek to hide my IP address. I know that I can apply for IP cloaks, but I don't want to go through that. In sum, is there any online hosts through which I can access the Wikipedia IRC and that do not display my IP? I know http://www.mibbit.com/ exists, but I could not reach the Wikipedia channels after scrolling to "Webchat". I also don't know if it hides my IP. I thank anyone who can provide me with a clear, helpful answer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agewk (talk • contribs) 04:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am aware, there is no way to hide your IP address in IRC without cloaking. I'm not sure why you don't want to go with cloaking, as it's not that hard to do. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are a lot of good IRC clients, but still I don't think there are any clients that can hide your IP without cloaking. But cloaking is a very easy process, and shoudn't take much time, so I recommend it if you want to hide your IP and access IRC. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 11:42, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you did hide your IP without cloaking, Freenode (who run the IRC channels) would ban you anyway; it's important on IRC to be able to know whether two people are the same so that if someone's disruptive, they can be banned without the ability to immediately change their name and come back again. Hiding IPs is what cloaks are for, just like hiding IPs is what Wikipedia usernames are for. If you're particularly worried about privacy of your IP, it may be best not to use IRC at all. --ais523 19:20, 30 September 2010 (U T C)

What is a 'Box Back Coat'

Is or was a 'Box Back Coat' an expensive or a cheap one, common or special, fashion or out of date, what material is it made of ?

Please answer to <email removed>

Sincerely, Alfred H.G. Schumann Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.21.54.229 (talk) 05:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed your email, as you were told in giant red letters when you asked your question, not to post your email. --Jayron32 05:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A quick google search indicates that it was likely a coat which had a box pleat in the back of the coat. This website: [3] has a picture of one, as does this one: [4] though it does not show the back. It appears to have been in fashion during the Victorian era. --Jayron32 06:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting numerical tables

If one uses the sorter, for example in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality the sort is alphabetical rather than numerical. For example, in sorting on the first column, UN R/P 10% (ratio of income of richest 10% to that of poorest 10%) the ordering comes out: 10.8, 10.9, 105, 11.1, etc. Yet 105 is not between 10.9 and 11.1. (I realize this is not really a question, but in looking through the help/contact sections, I could not find anywhere else to post this comment.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.110.250 (talk) 07:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's very strange. When I try sorting the first column at List of countries by income equality it works properly. Perhaps this is browser-dependent - I'm using Internet Explorer 8. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've now identified the problem but don't have a solution for you. Your IP address suggests you are located in France. When I switch my Windows preferences to use French settings for dates, times and numbers, I find that the list does not sort correctly. The sorting is handled by Javascript within your browser; that code must be looking at your system configuration to work out what "10.5" means; and in France ten-and-a-half would be written as "10,5" not "10.5". -- John of Reading (talk) 08:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When N/A is at the top the next sorting is alphabetical. You could either remove the texts "N/A" or apply Template:Nts.--Patrick (talk) 10:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If "N/A" causes the sorting to be alphabetical, how do you explain the observed difference in the sort sequence after switching the Windows preferences between English and French? -- John of Reading (talk) 14:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For the mentioned column I get a cycle of 4, numeric and alphabetic sorting, ascending and descending. Are you sure you get just numeric sorting?--Patrick (talk) 12:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

loading a new article

Please, I do not want to be rude, and maybe I am just stupid, but I have spent days trying to find out how I actually LOAD a new article. The closest I can get after spending hours navigating through all of your links is the discovery that I need to "move" my created article. Move it to WHERE? All of your instructions seem to be written for tekkies. It would be good, please, just to have a simple, straightforward instruction. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allanpiper (talk • contribs) 07:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just left a welcome message on your talk page. And about moving the article, it's already telling in the template on top of the page you're trying to move; you might want to read WP:MADEDRAFT page and seek for feedback WP:FEED. Hope this helps. Cheers! ~ Elitropia (talk) 08:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article is currently at User:Mainspace/Ernest So after a series of moves. We really need to simplify the advice we give to new users in this area. I've posted some ideas at this talk page -- John of Reading (talk) 08:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What's complicated in Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft? – ukexpat (talk) 14:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, saw your comment about "mainspace" and that's a valid point. – ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Admin help please - I just munged a move of the article back to a user subpage by moving it to User:Allanpiper /Ernest So, and now cannot move it back to User:Allanpiper/Ernest So. Would a passing admin please unmunge this for me, thanks and apologies. My only excuse is that it's been a very long day already. – ukexpat (talk) 14:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. TFOWR 14:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you – ukexpat (talk) 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Back to the original question by Allanpiper (talk · contribs) - Your article has now been moved back to User:Allanpiper/Ernest So. When it is ready to be moved to mainspace, use the "Move" tab and enter just "Ernest So" in the "To new name" box (without the quotes). -- John of Reading (talk) 15:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist bug

I'm using the MonoBook skin and this morning when I look at my watchlist everything except the logo in the left-hand sidebar has moved to the bottom of the page, below all the text. Screenshot here. I'm using Safari 5.0.2 and it only seems to be a problem in this browser (works fine in Firefox). Lexicografía (talk) 12:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Same problem here on Chrome, had already raised it at Village Pump/Technical. DuncanHill (talk) 12:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll go there. Lexicografía (talk) 12:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thread is at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Navigation/search/interaction etc. DuncanHill (talk) 12:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia & HIPAA

I am currently researching public sources of medical information on the internet and I am including Wikipedia in my assignment. However, in looking for Wikipedia's involvement in HIPAA, I was unable to find any specific information. Could you tell me more about how wikipedia does or does not comply to HIPAA guidelines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.184.42.3 (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HIPAA, Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. You are looking for information on the employees of the Wikimedia Foundation that manages Wikipedia ? You would have to look trough the information at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home . Annual report, financial report and the foundation policies. If you cannot find it there, then you will probably have to phone the office. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is that OP was getting at something else. I'm no expert on HIPAA, but have had some involvement in a personal way. Among other things, the law puts restrictions on the distribution of certain information. Given the generally open view of Wikipedia on sharing info, it might be that policies of WP may be in conflict with, or need changing in light of HIPAA rules. While I guess that we have some over-arching policy saying we mean to comply with local laws, is it possible, for example, our BLP rules suggest information about a medical condition of a person can be published, and, in light of HIPAA, that rule should be modified. I'm just speculating here, as I think the OP was driving at something other than the disclosure rules as they relate to WP employees.--SPhilbrick T 14:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In general, Wikipedia does not store personal health information about any person. However, someone could post a person's personal medical information on Wikipedia. In that case, there would be a HIPAA violation, but it would be the fault of the person who posted the information. It is up to the lawyers to decide if the medium in which the personal information was transferred should share in the blame. Further, protecting personal heath information is only part of HIPAA. Much of HIPAA deals with health information transportability. Wikipedia does assist in the sense that many ICD9 and CPT codes are easily located in Wikipedia. Medication names (and brandnames) are easy to find. Laboratory information is still rather lacking. Helping normalize and encode health data is one part of assisting in data transportability. -- kainaw ™ 14:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) In that case. Such information is not allowed in Wikipedia, unless substantially sourced, which would mean that it is probably News. When 3rd parties would post such information, it will generally be removed (and even suppressed, based on the type of information) when the community is notified of such things. We probably cannot be prosecuted, because we are not a covered entity. "Covered entities include health plans, health care clearinghouses, such as billing services and community health information systems, and health care providers that transmit health care data in a way that is regulated by HIPAA". —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can't use Wikipedia in my usual browser because Wiki thinks I am a Script

Hello,

due to the recently exposed security problems (involuntary user tracking across the Web by UserAgent info from the browser, technically known as Side-Channel-Leak) I have disabled my UserAgent in Firefox 3, browser I typically use. In order to protect myself from this new form of Web abuse. UserAgent is absolutely irrelevant for most websites, including Wikipedia. All other websites I have encountered since this change work just fine. As they should.

At Wikipedia pages instead, I am denied any access (I can't see any Wiki page) and given following error message: "Scripts should use an informative User-Agent string with contact information, or they may be IP-blocked without notice. "

I am not a Script. I am a real person!

UserAgent has no ability to distinguish whether I am a real person or not. Please stop using it for that purpose. Do expect more people to disable it in near future due to above mentioned security concerns.

Can you help me resolve this problem?

Dusan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.48.5 (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The tech section of the Village Pump is probably the best place to discuss this. – ukexpat (talk) 16:37, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the User-Agent policy. Especially the last paragraph " Note that some plugins or proxies for privacy enhancement may suppress this header. However, for anonymous surfing, it is recommended to send a generic User-Agent string, instead of suppressing it or sending an empty string. Note that other features are much more likely to identify you to a website - if you are interested in protecting your privacy, visit the panopticlick project"—TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:07, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A blank User Agent is even more suspicious than a generic one, and easier to track; hardly anyone has a blank user-agent string. For privacy, just look at what the most common user-agent string is for the browser you're using (pick a generic Firefox UA string if you're using Firefox, for instance), and use that. --ais523 19:17, 30 September 2010 (U T C)

Template for difference

Hi, I'm looking for a template that can calculate the difference between two numbers, is there any such template? /Caelus sv (talk) 16:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if such a template exists. Even if it does, why do you need a template to do that? Are the numbers being subtracted changing? TNXMan 16:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know a template doing only that but the parser function #expr can do it. For example, {{#expr:49-7}} evaluates as 42. See more at Help:Calculation. Does this work for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Try {{Subtraction}}. WikiCopter

^{Formerly AirplanePro} 17:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that works fine! I'm working on a table with some numbers and needed a faster way than to use the Windows calculator and copypaste. :) /Caelus sv (talk) 17:44, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now added to Category:Mathematical function templates. – ukexpat (talk) 18:07, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to open the edit window in a separate tab?

On the old style Wikipedia, I could right click the edit tab, but in the new style I can't. Is there a way to do this without using the old style? 90.219.11.180 (talk) 16:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about using WP:Vector, I can right click the edit button at the top and select open in a new tab. I'm using Google Chrome though. --Devourer09 17:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Logged out users automatically get WP:Vector. It works for me in Firefox. What is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the request for higher quality image page?

Isn't there a category or something for images that have been tagged for request for a higher quality version or something like that? I forgot where it is and would like to work on it. --WikiDonn (talk) 17:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Graphic Lab#Image improvement categories. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found it. It was Category:Images with inappropriate JPEG compression. Now that I look at your page, shouldn't this page be listed on that one in the list of page improvement categories? --WikiDonn (talk) 17:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Be boooooooooooold! Devourer09 18:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Graphic Lab#Image improvement categories already lists Category:Images for cleanup which contains Category:Images with inappropriate compression which contains Category:Images with inappropriate JPEG compression. I don't think the whole category tree should be listed at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Upload photo

Dear Wikipedia employee,

I want to replace the picture of a person on Wikipedia. The image I want to replace it with comes directly from herself, as she is my employer. So I have permission to do so. I can't find how I can replace the picture and add other pictures. Can you help me?

Then for some other matters: There are a lot of notes placed on top about what's wrong with the page. I am currently fixing these flaws in the text and sources, but want to know when these warnings will disappear or how I can make these go away once these issues are fixed. Can you also help me with this?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Kind regards, Lee —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisette84 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For your second question, anyone can remove the tags if they feel the issues have been addressed. Note, however, that if the issues are not addressed, anyone can re-add the tags. You should also read our information about conflict of interest. For your image questions, I've included some standard advice below.

If you want to add an existing image to an article, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps.Template:Z40 TNXMan 18:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

potential deletion of Mary Nissenson entry

I've just spent over an hour, trying to figure out how to use your dispute process. I genuinely LOVE wikipedia -- but, in all due deference, you've made the "instructions" on filing disputes so verbose, arcane and incomprehensible that I gave up. So, I'm hoping you will pass this on to the appropriate party.

I've never had the pleasure of actually meeting Ms. Nissenson (so I'm not going to pretend to be a close friend, associate or even "expert" on her, per se) but she DID save my husband's life, through the advice column she wrote for pain victims at www.pain.com. Actually, we knew about her, long before then, because Dave was a big fan when she was on TV. (I think that's part of why he took her help so seriously, when he was trying to kill himself some years back. He has a horrible pain condition that, at the time, he didn't think he could live with and still have a life worth living, at all.) We've both followed Mary's path through life, ever since, with great admiration, gratitude and respect.

When we first saw that you FINALLY had an entry on her several days ago, we were THRILLED! In fact, we sent a link to it to just about everyone we know, including everyone Dave works with at his packing company. Only moments later (or at least, that's how it felt) we were HORRIFIED when friends started calling us up and telling us you were DELETING her. Dave and I are praying with all our hearts that Ms. Nissenson is unaware of this debacle. We can't bear to think how humiliating it would be.

I truly mean no offense, but ARE YOU GUYS NUTS??? If you have done ANY (and I do mean ANY) actual research on this woman you will know that the entry only skimmed the surface of what she's accomplished -- despite having lost 15 years of her life to one of the most devastating pain conditions known to man. (Many patients who get RSD in a hand or foot REQUEST AMPUTATION, because they'd rather lose a body part, than live with the pain. Not an option for Mary, since she has the rarest form of RSD. It's in her cranium.

We just found her page on a site called "Linked-In" -- which I'm assuming you guys now about. YOU NEED TO READ IT. We know, from a news story that was done in Hawaii, that Mary was still homebound until December of last year. In the mere nine months that she's been back on her feet, she has helped create a campaign to fight the deadliest disease on the planet -- taken the lead in planning an historic Middle East Peace Summit -- helped develop a campaign to reduce childhood obesity (working with the First Lady, I think) -- AND is teaching graduate journalism courses in San Francisco. (sorry, I don't remember the name of the school, but it's probably on that site I mentioned)

We just heard a talk by Darryl Roberts (who produced the America the Beautiful documentary Mary is featured in). Did you know he's making a FEATURE FILM ON MARY NISSENSON'S LIFE??? Do you think he'd be doing that if she weren't everything you guys wrote about her... and MORE????

You don't have to take my word for it. Just Google her. There are about 19 pages of articles, books, TV reports, etc on Mary. (We saw her featured on OPRAH a few years back, ourselves.)

PLEASE, in the name of the heavenly father, DON'T DELETE YOUR ENTRY ON MARY NISSENSON. It would be an unpardonable offense, not merely to her, but to your READERS, many of whom I'm sure she has helped, just as she helped my Dave.

I know it doesn't mean anything to you guys, but Dave and I have sworn on our Bible that we will NEVER ever use Wikipedia again if you take this wonderful woman out, or in any way minimize her accomplishments.

Thank you for at least hearing me out. God Bless you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PainPatientAdvocate (talk • contribs) 18:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We cannot help you here - please make your case against deletion in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary nissenson, but be aware that our sole inclusion criterion is notability. – ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also note that the current "article" is such a cluttered mess that it is impossible to retrieve any comprensible information from it, or to verify the claims that are apparently being made; and that the creator of this mess didn't even know enough English to capitalize Nissenson's name. The current thinking on the Article for Discussion page is that there is nothing salvageable in what was posted here. (And sites like LinkedIn are not reliable sources for an encyclopedia article.) --Orange Mike | Talk 18:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adding information to whitelist talk page

I'm looking to find out the most proper procedure for adding information to the whitelist talk page. I am connected to one of the sites being reviewed, so there is a clear conflict of interest and the stigma associated with a blacklist site, so I don't want to rush in and post information in an unsolicited way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.165.48.46 (talk) 19:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you disclose your conflict of interest, I think your contribution would be welcome. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:53, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Difference between note, reference, external link and futher reading

I am evaluating the articles on individual statins. Some writers use notes, some use references, some use external links and some have a further reading list. Are they guidelines about when to use each type of footnote. IF yes can you tell me where they are in the style manual? Is it up to each individual writer. Thanks, Natalie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.254.3.100 (talk) 21:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The only section that is required is that of References. A list of references to reliable sources that verify information in the article is contained in that section. Each reference is given a number which can then be used to identify which parts of the article are verified by which reference.

The other sections each are optional and have specific definitions. The Notes section, as its name implies, is generally for explanatory footnotes. Further reading and external links are lists of books and websites, respectively, which in the writer's judgement include additional information that would enhance the article, but for a variety of reasons (for instance, the source is overly detailed or has a abstruse style of writing) cannot be included in the article itself. As far as I know, external links are standard while further reading is not.

Some writers, especially when referencing article text to books or other printed material, choose to put references to specific pages in a book ("Smith, 37-39") in a "Notes" section, then cite the entire book itself in a "References" or "Further reading" section. I don't believe this is standard practice anymore, instead writers should combine all references into one section.

Wikipedia's manual of style is here, but it does not give much consideration to this topic. In general, only the "References" list is absolutely required, and the other lists can be used as the article requires them. Xenon54 (talk) 21:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent explanation, Xenon54. And might I add, it doesn't qualify as references if you title a section "References" just to have that section and then but put non-reference stuff in it. I've seen that in a few articles. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Hi Natalie. These are not simply alternatives but fundamentally different things (well most of them are). Note and references are both used for citing sources normally. Generally, a references section, when alone, is where the citations appear that point to a source that verifies one or more facts in the text that the citation is added to verify. A notes section is often used when an article has a reference that lists larger works and people are pointing their footnotes to specific page or section of that work. See here for an example. Confusingly, they are sometimes mixed an matched in various ways. Notes sections also may contain actual notes (parenthetical additions to the text) along with the citations, and occasionally they only contain parenthetical notes). External links sections are places to post links to external websites that may contain information that a person reading the article might wish to also look at, which contain additional information to that which is in the article. See Wikipedia:External links. Further reading section material has some overlap with external links, but contain recommendations for other material a person might like to read or view that is broader than just external websites—books that may or may not be available online at all, documentaries, other related Wikipedia articles, and so on (and once again, it is not for citation material). You can see WP:FURTHERREADING, but that write-up is rather anemic. Note that an article that contains only an external links section, only a further reading section, or both, but not a references/notes section, is considered unsourced; as having no references.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The MOS does cover this in a subpage in some detail. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(layout)#Standard_appendices_and_footers. It does explain the standard sections, and how they are generally used. --Jayron32 04:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph credits

Hi! Jeff Watson (guitarist) indicates "Photo: Mark Britain" next to a photograph. The user is asking if he can also have an in-article text credit for another photograph of his.

Is there a policy or guideline that indicates when in-text photograph credits. If a policy doesn't prohibit it, I wouldn't mind giving an in-text credit for his photo at Huntsville Unit. I'll add the text now, but I will watch this discussion in case there is something that discourages or prohibits in-text credits. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (captions)#Credits is a guideline against it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright - thank you very much :) WhisperToMe (talk) 02:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image link

Where is the mediawiki page that shows "(image link)" in the Special:WhatLinksHere pages? I want to change it to "(file link)" instead, for consistency. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 23:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it can be changed for the English Wikipedia at MediaWiki:Isimage which shows "image link" as default for MediaWiki installations. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October 1

Determining if my subject is Notable

I was planning to write an article for Wikipedia but after reading about the "Notability" requirement and other information for new contributors I remain unsure whether my topic is Notable enough for its own article. Can someone give me an opinion before I take the time to write a complete article?

The topic is Pariyatti - www.pariyatti.org. - a nonprofit Publishing House/Bookstore devoted to Vipassana Meditation in the tradition of Sayagyi U Ba Khin and S.N. Goenka, and the teachings of the Buddha. Wikipedia currently has articles on Sayagyi U Ba Khin, Goenka, Vipassana, and (obviously) the Buddha.

Pariyatti is the exclusive distributor for the Pali Text Society and the Buddhist Publication Society (both have Wikipedia pages) in the U.S. and Canada, and nearby geographies that differ slightly for each of those publishers. We receive orders and ship literally worldwide.

A Google search for Pariyatti produces thousands of hits, including mentions in at least two articles on Wikipedia, but most are references to books or authors we publish and/or sell. We are also referenced in articles about Pali Language classes and Buddhist books. There were many more pages of hits remaining when I ran out of energy looking at each one.

Naturally Pariyatti would prefer an article of its own, but if not, maybe we could be mentioned in the article "Independent Bookstore"?

I would be grateful for any advice/guidance you can give me. Or is it necessary to just write the article and submit it in order to find out whether or not it will be accepted?

The first few pages of hits with a Google search for Pariyatti includes the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._N._Goenka (Several mentions, including this link to the Pariyatti Web site: "Podcasts about Vipassana Meditation (audio talks)".)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin_Samararatne

http://www.greatwesternvehicle.org/palisources.htm

http://www.dharmaweb.org/index.php/Buddhist_Book_Sites

http://www.cambodianbuddhist.org/english/website/other.html

http://www.ibpa-online.org/articles/shownews.aspx?id=2795

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/outsources/books.html

http://www.purifymind.com/Publishers.htm

http://www.gazellebookservices.co.uk/Marketing/Publisher%20Pages/Trade%20publishers/PARIYATTI%20PRESS%20%28US%29.htm

http://www.google.com/search?q=Pariyatti&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGLL_en___US387#q=Pariyatti&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=7m5&rlz=1R1GGLL_en___US387&prmd=iv&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=0PKkTOXBNILCnAeo4vmQAQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=10&ved=0CEMQqwQwCQ&fp=a8aa520e3f8afc17

http://www.bps.lk/orderinginfo.asp

http://www.vridhamma.org/Ordering-CSCD.aspx

http://www.vridhamma.org/en2009-04.aspx

http://www.vridhamma.org/en2008-07.aspx

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Pariyatti+publishing&x=0&y=0

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/product-compint-0000737785-page.html

http://www.ibpa-online.org/featuretitles/showpla.aspx?id=531

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17160792/Vipassana-Meditation-Healing-the-Healer

Carljs27 (talk) 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC) http://www.drby.net/index.php/Reading-Lists/introduction-to-buddhism-suggested-reading-list.html[reply]

You might want to look at the following pages: Your first article, Frequently Asked Questions/Organizations, Notability (organizations and companies), Identifying reliable sources, and especially Conflict of interest. I hope these help. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 01:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The primary criteria for inclusion is significant coverage in independent reliable sources. I had a very quick look, and couldn't find such coverage (good sources are things like a newspaper article about the company - not a press release - or a magazine article). Such sources do not need to be available online, but they must be publically available (for example in a library) - this includes pay-as-you-go or subscription-only services. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with disambiguation pages

I posted three new articles on "Periodic Graphs (Crystallography)", "Periodic Graph (Geometry)", and "Periodic Graph (Graph Theory)". Since the latter two are quite distant from each other, I thought it best to install a disambiguation page. I could not find specific instructions for starting one, so I used the Article Wizard, and wound up creating two pages, "Periodic Graph" and "Periodic Graph (Disambiguation)", neither of which is a functioning disambiguation page and both of which probably should be deleted (I put "{{Proposed deletion/dated|concern=not a functioning disambiguation page|timestamp=20101001002801}}" at the top of those two pages).

I apologize for mucking things up. Meanwhile, how do I create a disambiguation page? Geometric and crystallographic periodic graphs are quite different things from graph theoretic periodic graphs, and I think that disambiguation is necessary. Glmccolm (talk) 00:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, for a first attempt at making dab pages, you did pretty well. I've tidied them up, and moved the main dab page to Periodic graph (we don't usually capitalise the second word of a page title, god knows why). Periodic Graph (Disambiguation) now points to it. I've also edited the wording slightly, we try to have only one bluelink per line on dab pages. DuncanHill (talk) 00:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting gone wrong?

On the page SkyTeam, the formatting for press releases have gone wrong, I think; when I look at the references section, I shouldn't be able to see any urls, but instead, the titles are on the right and the urls on the left. Can some-one fix it please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.152.251 (talk) 00:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed this and a couple other things.[5] There were newlines inside the reference titles and that broke the formatting. The sources have newlines in the titles so I replaced them with semicolons (other punctuation could also have been chosen). PrimeHunter (talk) 02:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moving page

Resolved

– – ukexpat (talk) 16:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the instructions on how to move a page from user space to wikipedia. However, when I go to my page, there is the read, edit, view history, but there is no tab with an arrow to let me move the page. How do I move my page or get the arrow to show up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olszews (talk • contribs) 04:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is you are not autoconfirmed yet. There are two requirements to become autoconfirmed, minimum of ten edits and your account is at least 4 days old. You have made the 10 edits but your account was created 27 Sept at 17:17 UTC. You need to wait 12 and a half hours to become autoconfirmed. ~~ GB fan ~~ 04:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What page do you want to move? Maybe I can help. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • shot down) 04:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at their contribs, I think it will become obvious. Dismas|^(talk) 05:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page now moved to Carl H. Milam. – ukexpat (talk) 16:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FLOURENS ARTICLE

My question is "whom am I supposed to contact, in order to solve the following problem":

I recently added a link to four separate articles, i.e. "Gustave Flourens", "Jules Verne", "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" and "Captain Nemo". Next day all links were removed by Mr McSly, accompagned by the following comment: "Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used as a platform for advertising or promotion, and doing so is contrary to the goals of this project. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags,external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. McSly (talk) 14:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)" This is the first time I ever contributed to Wikipedia and I am sorry that my act was misinterpreted. This is not about enriching Wikipedia's "collection of links" and certainly not an attempt for "advertising" or "promotion". I am an academic with a long career and dozens of publications and I am certainly not looking for "advertising" one of my minor articles, six years old. This is what really is about: The most important Vernian specialist of our time, Dr William Butcher, made an assuption that Jules Verne's most famous character, Captain Nemo, is based on the French revolutionary intellectual Gustave Flourens. I found it very interesting and, since I am maybe the only person that studied Flourens's life in depth (Léonidas Kallivretakis, Gustave Flourens (1838-1871) et la Grèce, doctoral thesis,Université de la Sorbonne, Paris 1983; published also in Greek, Athens 1998), I investigated this hypothesis, and the result of that investigation is an article published in The Historical Revue / La Revue Historique, an academic refereed journal. Since this article a) gives an original detailed account of Verne's inspiration and writing procedures regarding "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea"; b) rises the question of the various historical personalities that possibly inspired Captain Nemo's character, and c) records for the first time a lot of unknown data regarding Flourens' stormy life and political ideas, I thought it usefull to get it linked to the above mentionned Wikipedia articles. This and only this was the reason I proposed the link: Leonidas Kallivretakis, “Jules Verne’s Captain Nemo and French Revolutionary Gustave Flourens: A Hidden Character Model?”, The Historical Review 1 (2004), p. 207-244. http://www.historicalreview.org/index.php/historicalReview/article/view/177/73 (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gustave_Flourens) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LEONKALL (talk • contribs) 06:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You've already posted this at Talk:Gustave_Flourens, so you've started the dialog. You might also try leaving a note on Mcfly's talk page, to connect with him directly. Your addition looks acceptable to me, but I'm not an expert on WP policies. Rojomoke (talk) 07:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Commons attribution

Hi,

I am creating a blog thesedays about Bank Notes of the World. I generally use my own pictures and text for it from my collection. However, for the time being i am creating some general entries about my country Pakistan and its history. I used some information and pictures as provided on Wikipedia. I saw the following message on the pictures :

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license.

You are free: to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work to remix – to adapt the work Under the following conditions: attribution – You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). share alike – If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.

As I am new to online pulishing does this mean I can use these pictures on my blog? and what about the wording in the Wikipedia? Can I copy that too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnkhan (talk • contribs) 15:40, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see this page for guidance about reusing Wikipedia content. – ukexpat (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Promotion"? Really?

I was attempting to post a link to the bottom of a page on Congenital Insensitivity to Pain (CIPA) that is a link to my website http://www.thefactsofpainlesspeople.com. The website was created by a friend and I who were both born with CIPA, our website is filled with documentaries and newspaper/magazine articles proving such. Yet, when I post it to Wikipedia it tells me that I'm "promoting"....Yet there's a link to some childs fundraising for medical assistance on the same page. I don't understand that one bit. Please help me out if possible. Everyone with our condition is tired of the wrong information being out there in the public. Our website helps to disprove the myths.

Thank you,

Steven C. Pete <e-mail redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by PainlessPeople (talk • contribs) 16:10, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at this page for guidance as to acceptable external links. – ukexpat (talk) 16:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation page redirect

I recently created a disambiguation page called "Correlation Coefficient." However, links to correlation coefficient still lead to a different article (Correlation and dependence). How do I fix this?

Also, I have not been able to use the "move" feature to remove the capitalization on the second word of the disambiguation page's title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MathEconMajor (talk • contribs) 16:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page titles use sentence case unless the title is a proper noun, so the disam page should be at Correlation coefficient. Because that page already exists as a redirect, we will need admin assistance to move Correlation Coefficient to Correlation coefficient. If a passing admin doesn't do the move shortly, we can file a request at WP:Requested moves. – ukexpat (talk) 17:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

XLinkBot Issues

I am updating and reformatting the layout of a page. The only problem is that the XLinkBot continues to revert everything back to the very first edit before I started working on it. Is there anyway to get rid of it or stop it from continuously reverting changes?

filmmakerscoop —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filmmakerscoop (talk • contribs) 17:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To quote XLinkBot's note to users, "If your additions were reverted by XLinkBot, please take time to review our external links & spam guidelines". The external links guideline says, under Links normally to be avoided, "10. Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), Twitter feeds, Usenet newsgroups or e-mail lists." In your case, XLinkBot saw your addition of a link to Facebook as inappropriate, and reverted it. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 17:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Locked Page?

The Plato page allowed additions, edits, to the Further reading section in the past. It doesn't appear to be possible any longer. I'm fairly new to this. Could the page be locked or something similar? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GaleCarrLV (talk • contribs) 17:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Plato page has been protected from editing by anonymous or newly-registered editors because of excessive vandalism. If there are corrections or additions that you'd like to make, you have two options. The first option is to make another five edits, so that you've made ten, and to wait until your account has been registered for four days; your account will then be autoconfirmed and you will be able to edit Plato. These edits can be anything; I suggest the Lists of common misspellings as a source of easy and useful edits you can make. The second option is to suggest your corrections on the article talk page and to draw attention to them by using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that the only purpose of this account is to insert links to the website of a company called Parmenides Publishing, whose Vice President is one Gale Carr. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do I tag that an article needs clean-up

List of songs about Los Angeles seems to have songs not about LA, but California, for which there is also a list. I don't know all of these songs, but I'm sure many do. How do I tag them for clean-up? Thanks.Civic Cat (talk) 18:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{Cleanup|date=October 2010|reason=See talk page}} with a brief explanation on the talk page. A message on the talk page of the songs project may also be fruitful. – ukexpat (talk) 18:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First part done.:-)Civic Cat (talk) 19:08, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Biology by team

I am the author of the wikipedia-page Biology by team which has been accepted by Wikipedia since march 2008. In february 2010 the following tag has been added:

This article may not meet the general notability guideline. Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted. (February 2010)

I inserted additional information, changed and added several links including information about cooperations with several university institutes and so I am sure the page is worth to be published further on. Am I allowed, to delete the tag or will there be a routine to check the content and delete this tag? Best regards, Peter Holub, Head of the regional centre of science instruction at the University college of teacher training, Carinthia, AUSTRIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pholub (talk • contribs) 18:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As with all maintenance tags, if you fix the problem that they refer to, feel free to take the tag back off again. In the case of adding reliable secondary sources, it helps to show which of the sources is being used to back up which bit of the article (see Wikipedia:Citing sources), to make it easier to check that the sources really are backing up the content, but that's less important (there's an alternate tag, {{no footnotes}} that you could perhaps replace the tag with: "This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. Please help to improve this article by introducing more precise citations where appropriate."). --ais523 20:09, 1 October 2010 (U T C)

Size of quotations

I recently read in a Guideline or Help page that quoted text in articles should not be excessively long and should be, to some extent, condensed or edited/paraphrased. But I don't remember exactly where I saw it, and can't find it again. Can you direct me to a page where such a guideline or suggestion exists? I have looked through the Manual of Style but can't find what I'm looking for. Thanks. 12.73.186.254 (talk) 19:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you thinking of the content guideline Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Acceptable_use? --ais523 20:03, 1 October 2010 (U T C)

(e/c) Two things I found were WP:QUOTE, an essay; and WP:MOSQUOTE, the page in the Manual of Style. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 20:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) A logical place for such a guideline would be under WP:MOSQUOTE. But I don't see anything there about the maximum allowable length of a quotation. Searching the archived discussion pages finds some possibilities, for example:

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 103#Quotation length

--Teratornis (talk) 20:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, all. It was in WP:QUOTE. 12.73.186.254 (talk) 20:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Non-breaking space for template "convert"

Why does use of template "convert" not result in output of non-breaking space between the quantity and the unit?

In When to use RTDs or thermocouples template "convert" is used like:

  {{convert|-200|to|500|C|F}}

The output is: -200 to 500 °C (-328 to 932 °F)

The space between "500" and "°C" is a normal space. This can result in "500" being on one line (at the end) and "°C" on the next line, depending on the zoom state of the web browser.

Shouldn't template "convert" output a non-breaking space?

--Mortense (talk) 20:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fluorescent background-color, text-color

can i make that, if yes, pls explain how. thx-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do I delete an image I previously uploaded.

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