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Flip's Twisted World

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This article fails to assert notability of the game, which has yet to be released. A check of Google News returns very little - a single article in the local area of the developer, the developer's blog, as well as several mentions that show only the release date, which does not constitute significant coverage in reliable sources. The developer is not notable on their own, nor is their publishing agreement with Majesco enough to push notability onto the game. It's possible that in a few months this game will be a big deal and warrant an article, but for now, it probably shouldn't be here. Addionne (talk) 14:06, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Game has been pushed back for over a year and may never actually be released. 69.165.146.178 (talk) 16:14, 15 October 2010 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]

Delete article has been edited heavily by Frozen North, as a promotional vehicle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.16 (talk) 18:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and scrub promo content. --coldacid (talk|contrib) 05:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - If it's released and gets more coverage (reviews, etc.) then maybe it will meet the notability guidelines. At the moment, however, it does not. I suggest that one of the many involved parties with this whole thing userfy it so that if it becomes notable, they can recreate it. I'd also be willing to restore it to a userpage if it is deleted and then later becomes notable. However, it's not notable just because it is being released by a major developer (WP:INHERITED) and it's not notable because it may become notable (WP:CRYSTAL). — GorillaWarfare ^talk 17:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete its out and three days and no one in the Video Game magazines and Various Websites devoted to such things have not given a review? That means its non-notable flat out. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 23:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - some of these delete votes seem to miss the point - editing from a COI'd editor is not a reason to delete. Lack of notability is the basis to delete an article, but I believe I have found sufficient sources: Eurogamer, Gamespy, Joystiq and GamePro. Not earth-shatteringly amazing, but sufficient. Bigger digger (talk) 00:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
These hits are publisher's descriptions, so not sufficient for verification or notability. Marasmusine (talk) 21:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There has been an editorial decision to take the publisher's information and write it in a style suiting each web site. That kind of interaction moves it away from being a republished press release and into a useful source. They seem to cover a wide timescale as well. Happy to be persuaded otherwise. Bigger digger (talk) 22:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's no original commentry. "The publisher has given us a description and some screenshots. Here's the description and the screenshots." is not significant coverage. Marasmusine (talk) 08:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But it is original, otherwise they would be duplicates of each other. There has been an editorial decision to include this information and an original effort has been made to include the material. How do you know these descriptions aren't based on hands-on experiences – the game was demonstrated in public and they could have visited the developer. Perhaps we should agree to disagree? :-) Bigger digger (talk) 14:19, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is an unreleased game by a non-notable developer. Very little information and news exists relating to it. Distant highway (talk) 00:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 19:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:36, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and introduce the developer's info into this. I added some (non-inlined) references from reliable VG sources. Whatever the actual reason for some of the Deletes, the COI and unreleased arguments are plain wrong. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 00:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I have now added reception and development section from the sources. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 *::There has been an editorial decision to take the publisher's information and write it in a style suiting each web site. That kind of interaction moves it away from being a republished press release and into a useful source. They seem to cover a wide timescale as well. Happy to be persuaded otherwise. [[User:Bigger digger|Bigger digger]] ([[User talk:Bigger digger|talk]]) 22:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 *:::There's no original commentry. "The publisher has given us a description and some screenshots. Here's the description and the screenshots." is not significant coverage. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] ([[User talk:Marasmusine|talk]]) 08:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
+*::::But it is original, otherwise they would be duplicates of each other. There has been an editorial decision to include this information and an original effort has been made to include the material. How do you know these descriptions aren't based on hands-on experiences &ndash; the game was demonstrated in public and they could have visited the developer. Perhaps we should agree to disagree? :-) [[User:Bigger digger|Bigger digger]] ([[User talk:Bigger digger|talk]]) 14:19, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' This is an unreleased game by a non-notable developer. Very little information and news exists relating to it.  [[User:Distant highway|Distant highway]] ([[User talk:Distant highway|talk]]) 00:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 *<small>'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Deletion|list of video game related deletion discussions]]. ({{find video game sources short|Flip&#39;s Twisted World|linksearch=}}) [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 19:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)</small>