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*[[User:JRR Trollkien|JRR ]][[User talk:JRR Trollkien|Trollkien]] [[User:JRR Trollkien/warning|(see warning)]] 11:40, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC) You are welcome, hoom hum, very welcome. [[elf|Elves]] and [[troll]]s can be friends sometimes! |
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#No, [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]], [[User:172|Abe]] and [[User:GrazingshipIV|GrazingshipIV]] work way too close I worry about these users getting together as Sysops, makes me wonder who is cabal that they often cite. [[User:Plato|Comrade Nick]] '''[[User Talk:Plato|@)----^--]]''' 03:23, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC) |
#No, [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]], [[User:172|Abe]] and [[User:GrazingshipIV|GrazingshipIV]] work way too close I worry about these users getting together as Sysops, makes me wonder who is cabal that they often cite. [[User:Plato|Comrade Nick]] '''[[User Talk:Plato|@)----^--]]''' 03:23, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC) |
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#:[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Tim_Starling&diff=3915472&oldid=3915362] is probably of interest to people regarding this vote. [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]] 06:13, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 18:05, 5 June 2004
WP:RFA does not stand for Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration.
Requests for adminship are requests made for a Wikipedian to be made an administrator. These requests are made via nomination.
Important notes
Here you can make a request for adminship. See Wikipedia:Administrators for what this entails and see Wikipedia:List of administrators for a list of current admins. See Wikipedia:Bureaucrats for a list of users entrusted to grant sysop rights.
If you vote, please update the heading. If you nominate someone, you may wish to vote to support them.
Guidelines
Current Wikipedia policy is to grant administrator status to anyone who has been an active Wikipedia contributor for a while and is generally a known and trusted member of the community. Most users seem to agree that the more administrators there are the better.
Wikipedians are more likely to support the candidacy of people who have been logged-on contributors for some months and contributed to a variety of articles without often getting into conflicts with other users. It is expected that nominees will have good familiarity with Wikipedia policies and procedures. The quality and quantity of a nominee's work here is also a factor. Many Wikipedians take into account the number of edits a candidate has made, as a rough indication of how active the candidate has been. There are no hard guidelines on this, but most users seem to expect between 500 and 1000 edits before they will seriously consider a nomination.
Nominations which are obviously unqualified (those with fewer than 100 edits, for example) may be removed before the voting is complete. Past votes shows that the great majority of Wikipedians will not support such nominations, so they have no chance of success. Nominations may also be removed early if the current voting makes it clear that there will be no consensus to grant adminship.
- Nomination. Most users become administrators by being nominated by another user. Before nominating someone, get permission from them. Your nomination should be indicative that you believe that the user meets the requirements and would be an exemplary administrator. Along with the nomination, please give some reasons as to why you think this editor would make a good administrator.
- Self-nomination. If you wish to become an administrator, you can ask someone to nominate you. Self-nominations are accepted, however. If you want to nominate yourself to become an administrator, it is recommended that you wait until you exceed the usual guidelines by a good measure.
- Anonymous users. Anonymous users cannot be nominated, nominate others, or support or oppose nominations. The absolute minimum requirement to be involved with adminship matters is to have a username in the system.
After a minimum 7 day period for comments, if there is general agreement that someone who requests adminship should be given it, then a bureaucrat will make it so and record that fact at Wikipedia:Recently created admins and Wikipedia:Recently created bureaucrats. If there is uncertaintly, in the mind of even one bureaucrat, at least one bureaucrat should suggest an extension, so that it is clear that it is the community decision which is being implemented.
Nominations for adminship
Note: Nominations have to be accepted by the user in question. If you nominate a user, please also leave a message on their talk page and ask them to reply here if they accept the nomination.
Please place new nominations at the top.
User:Elf; (32/0/0); ends 19:00 7 June 2004 (UTC)
I'm nominating Elf. She is a *great* contributor, and I have absolutely no doubts about her ability to use admin powers wisely. She was nominated a little while back, and I (and several others) opposed only on the basis that she was too new and it would set a bad precedent. She's been here since January and has some 3000 contributions to her credit. →Raul654 19:49, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up that I'm listed here. I gladly accept. Maybe easier to say yes after 4 days of wikifree vacation. :-) Elf | Talk 19:52, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Support
- →Raul654 19:49, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- I seem to recall supporting her last time. She doesn't seem like she'd abuse her powers, and she's pretty easy to work with. Meelar 19:50, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- No more vacations for you. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 19:59, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Glad to see her accept this nomination. --Michael Snow 20:07, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- She turned down an earlier nomination because she felt she wasn't ready yet. Glad to see her back. Cecropia | Talk 20:09, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- BCorr|Брайен 20:22, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Snowspinner 20:26, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC) I am unable to refuse anything to elves.
- Support strongly GrazingshipIV 20:30, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- UninvitedCompany 20:39, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Cribcage 20:44, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Yay for Elf. Kingturtle 21:50, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Ditto. --Merovingian ↕ T@Lk 23:52, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- Dori | Talk 00:13, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Danny 02:29, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support --"DICK" CHENEY 02:50, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support. – Jrdioko (Talk) 04:25, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support Tuf-Kat 20:31, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- --GeneralPatton 20:38, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC) Good contributor
- 172 21:06, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- older≠wiser 21:12, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- jengod 22:07, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Support - It's the song! ;-) VampWillow 00:33, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- sannse (talk) 07:55, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) I don't often vote here, but will happily make an exception for Elf.
- ✏ Sverdrup 09:15, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) Yes, Elf can do it.
- Of course. Isomorphic 16:45, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Strongly support. Angela. 16:59, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I seem to be late to the party - an enthusiastic support for Elf, whose positive demeanor and valuable contributions are an excellent model of Wikipedian behavior. Jwrosenzweig 19:59, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Approve Comrade Nick @)---^--- 03:27, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support -- Chris 73 | Talk 05:34, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- JRR Trollkien (see warning) 11:40, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC) You are welcome, hoom hum, very welcome. Elves and trolls can be friends sometimes!
- Warofdreams 17:09, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support strongly. moink 18:03, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- anthony (see warning)
Oppose
Comments
User:Snowspinner; (26/2†/14/1); ends 15:25, 6 June 2004 (UTC)
I took a look at his user page and noticed that he has been doing a lot of good work on Critical Theory- and Foucault-related articles. 172 15:25, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Information: About 1800 edits, here since 18 April 2004. -- Cecropia | Talk 15:55, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- I accept. I am willing to fulfill the responsibilities of adminship, and they are responsibilities I am interested in taking on. However, I am on the new side, and I want to stress that I completely understand anyone who would vote against my nomination on these grounds. Snowspinner 19:14, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Support
- 172 15:25, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- JFW | T@lk 15:35, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Starx 15:44, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Guanaco 15:58, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Meelar 16:39, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Merovingian ↕ T@Lk 16:52, May 30, 2004 (UTC)
- Support strongly.GrazingshipIV 17:34, May 30, 2004 (UTC)
- Support. – Jrdioko (Talk) 19:37, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Support --"DICK" CHENEY 22:25, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- cryptfiend64 23:18, May 30, 2004 (UTC)
- RickK 02:51, May 31, 2004 (UTC) Normally I'd say wait, but Snowspinner has been a very good contributor since arriving. Support strongly.
- john k 06:05, 31 May 2004 (UTC). Sure, why not? Especially since he's shown an interest in administrative matters.
- Fredrik 13:20, 31 May 2004 (UTC) - Great contributor. Users have been given sysop status in the past for doing less work.
- Wile E. Heresiarch 17:27, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- Cribcage 20:45, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support anthony (see warning)
- Danny 02:29, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- --GeneralPatton 18:13, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC) - Is a serious and dedicated contributor that has the right material for the makings of a great admin.
- Tuf-Kat 20:32, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- older≠wiser 21:15, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Jim Regan 04:07, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC) For attempting to create "Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Snowspinner". Maybe Snowspinner could do with some more experience, but I take this as a sign to expect only good things.
- Tεxτurε 14:30, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support- highly dedicated to fighting trolls and vandals such as that one below calling him a "lap-dog". - Fennec (さばくのきつね) 16:24, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support. - David Gerard 16:28, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Recent actions by Snowspinner and certain other users has caused me to overcome my "too soon" objection. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:35, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Snowspinner's contributions have consistently been well written and well thought out, and, generally, has been instrumental in helping to resolve conflicts, especially on contentious issues. -Seth Mahoney 20:39, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
†Support on July 18, subject to reconsideration
- Cecropia | Talk 03:31, 31 May 2004 (UTC) Will any negative voters (or positive) join me in this category?
- Infrogmation 05:56, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC) Ok. Too soon as of writing, but with continued good work and a longer track record of interacting with other wikipedians looks like a potential good choice.
- No. I use four months, and while I like Snowspinner's work, I am disinclined to make an exception. Four months is not that long. Since part of the purpose of waiting is to offer us greater opportunity to gauge candidates' reaction to the blowing of the wiki-winds, voting "in advance" defeats some of the purpose. UninvitedCompany
Oppose
- UninvitedCompany 18:04, 30 May 2004 (UTC). Respectfully oppose. While Snowspinner is a great contributor, this nomination is premature. He has only been here six weeks.
- Too early. Maximus Rex 18:09, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Not even a month and a half yet.Kingturtle 18:14, 30 May 2004 (UTC)Forget my original reason to oppose User:Snowspinner for admin. My new reason involves User:Snowspinner's rude and contentious treatment of ChrisDJackson on RfA today. IMHO, Snowspinner bullied Chris, and Snowspinner showed a lack of diplomacy. These are not qualities I look for in an admin. Chris is correct. More than one person told him to re-apply, including myself. Kingturtle 01:55, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)I am impressed with Snow's resolution of this issue. I go back to my original reason for opposition. Just not enough time yet. Kingturtle 06:16, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)- I stand by my personal opinion that it was inappropriate for Chris to self-nominate that soon after his previous nomination went down that way, and that it displayed poor judgment. I expressed this view in a negative vote, and was leapt upon by Chris. I think my responses were fair and reasonable. He chose to pursue the matter of why I thought he would not make a good admin. I explained this view when challenged. I'm not sure how, short of having a different opinion on his suitability, I could have handled that differently.
And, as a side note, I wish that you would not deliberately vary my user name so as to make a personal attack on me.Snowspinner 02:26, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC) - Oh please get over it. He is not personally attacking you. You are the one who personally attacked me, as others can see. ChrisDJackson
- Where did I personally attack you?
- I stand by my personal opinion that it was inappropriate for Chris to self-nominate that soon after his previous nomination went down that way, and that it displayed poor judgment. I expressed this view in a negative vote, and was leapt upon by Chris. I think my responses were fair and reasonable. He chose to pursue the matter of why I thought he would not make a good admin. I explained this view when challenged. I'm not sure how, short of having a different opinion on his suitability, I could have handled that differently.
- Far too new, would likely support in future with different nominator. Sam [Spade] 22:19, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- If you people were employers and you were hiring someone, would you hire the person who got x amount of work done in a year, or the person who got the very same amount of work done in a month? I think that if a user has contributed work worthy of a year or two within a period of only a month or two, the short time span should only be taken as a sign of potential productivity, not potential "inexperience." IMHO, if one were to describe a formula for voting on admin status, I'd favor putting the quality/quantity of a user's contributions on the numerator and consigning the duration of the user's activity to the denominator. BTW, when I nominated Snowspinner, I wasn't aware that he'd not been user for a long time. But I'm only more impressed with his dedication to Wikipedia after having found out that he has done so much in such a short span of time. Perhaps for strategic reasons I should've waited a few more weeks, so I apologize to Snowspinner for my oversight (hence, having been an admin for roughly a year doesn't stop me from making mistakes). But, still, I suggest that you people change your votes. He's just as qualified (if not far more qualified) than the typical user who gets voted in unanimously. 172 02:57, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- I think editors are becoming uncomfortable with an ever-shortening timespan for admins. You're making the analogy of employment, I'll make the analogy of romance and marriage. A little more time to know who you're dealing with gives you a comfort level for a longer-term commitment. May I propose this: when we get a user like Snowspinner and some others, who many feel would be well-qualified but is just kind of new, maybe we should simply suspend the nomination and revive it when the user reaches three months, rather than be forced to make a positive or negative judgment when it is simply too early. To that end, since this is supposed to be process of consensus rather than numerical voting, I'm casting a vote for suspension below. -- Cecropia | Talk 03:31, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- I think this is, in general, a fabulous idea, though I worry about it being hell for people trying to sort out what nominations to bring back when - unless we just have a "Cold storage" section or something. That said, I also think delaying could easily be achieved through a neutral or negative vote at the time of the premature nomination, and then a renomination yourself on July 18th. Snowspinner 03:40, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- My main concept is that an Oppose because of a simple time issue is not the same as an Oppose because you feel someone is unqualified, and I don't want an excellent editor like yourself to go away feeling "opposed" as it were, when some of us just want to adhere to a minimal standard. I feel it creates an unnecessary situation which might be embarassing to some nominees. -- Cecropia | Talk 03:51, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- If this is a localized point instead of a general one, go ahead and oppose - as I said accepting it, I know this is an early nomination, and that those are controversial. (And I've opposed people on the grounds of being too early before. I've also voted for early admin status for people before. It really depends on the person for me.) That said, I suspect you're making a more general point in this case. :) Snowspinner 04:05, May 31, 2004 (UTC)
- I suspect you've got it! :) -- Cecropia | Talk 04:07, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- If this is a localized point instead of a general one, go ahead and oppose - as I said accepting it, I know this is an early nomination, and that those are controversial. (And I've opposed people on the grounds of being too early before. I've also voted for early admin status for people before. It really depends on the person for me.) That said, I suspect you're making a more general point in this case. :) Snowspinner 04:05, May 31, 2004 (UTC)
- My main concept is that an Oppose because of a simple time issue is not the same as an Oppose because you feel someone is unqualified, and I don't want an excellent editor like yourself to go away feeling "opposed" as it were, when some of us just want to adhere to a minimal standard. I feel it creates an unnecessary situation which might be embarassing to some nominees. -- Cecropia | Talk 03:51, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- I think this is, in general, a fabulous idea, though I worry about it being hell for people trying to sort out what nominations to bring back when - unless we just have a "Cold storage" section or something. That said, I also think delaying could easily be achieved through a neutral or negative vote at the time of the premature nomination, and then a renomination yourself on July 18th. Snowspinner 03:40, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- I think editors are becoming uncomfortable with an ever-shortening timespan for admins. You're making the analogy of employment, I'll make the analogy of romance and marriage. A little more time to know who you're dealing with gives you a comfort level for a longer-term commitment. May I propose this: when we get a user like Snowspinner and some others, who many feel would be well-qualified but is just kind of new, maybe we should simply suspend the nomination and revive it when the user reaches three months, rather than be forced to make a positive or negative judgment when it is simply too early. To that end, since this is supposed to be process of consensus rather than numerical voting, I'm casting a vote for suspension below. -- Cecropia | Talk 03:31, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- If you people were employers and you were hiring someone, would you hire the person who got x amount of work done in a year, or the person who got the very same amount of work done in a month? I think that if a user has contributed work worthy of a year or two within a period of only a month or two, the short time span should only be taken as a sign of potential productivity, not potential "inexperience." IMHO, if one were to describe a formula for voting on admin status, I'd favor putting the quality/quantity of a user's contributions on the numerator and consigning the duration of the user's activity to the denominator. BTW, when I nominated Snowspinner, I wasn't aware that he'd not been user for a long time. But I'm only more impressed with his dedication to Wikipedia after having found out that he has done so much in such a short span of time. Perhaps for strategic reasons I should've waited a few more weeks, so I apologize to Snowspinner for my oversight (hence, having been an admin for roughly a year doesn't stop me from making mistakes). But, still, I suggest that you people change your votes. He's just as qualified (if not far more qualified) than the typical user who gets voted in unanimously. 172 02:57, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
- Far, far too new. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this user been involved in conflicts with other users? →Raul654 06:27, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- I think that you're wrong. I don't think that this user has been involved in any major conflicts. I've probably had the strongest disagreement with him so far, and I'm the one nominating him. It was a more or less amicable disagreement. 172 06:46, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I can't think of any substantial conflicts that weren't amicably resolved through discussion... maybe with User:Avala? In either case, yes, I've entered a number of user conflicts, and been vocal in them. Generally, these have been conflicts I've found through RfC, or simply by watching RC. I have not been shy about adding my voice to debates. I have also behaved civily in those debates, respected Wikipedia policy, and sought consensus. So, yes, I've gotten into conflicts. But I would hope that staying out of conflicts is not a requirement for adminship - indeed, I think going into them and trying to seek consensus is a plus, not a minus. Snowspinner 13:16, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- I think you will find that is an uncommon opinion. Sam [Spade] 13:54, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Then I'm uncertain what RfC is supposed to be for. Snowspinner 14:15, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- I think you will find that is an uncommon opinion. Sam [Spade] 13:54, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Just a wee bit too new. Sorry, Snowspinner.-- ALargeElk | Talk 16:08, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Oppose. The user has not been here long enough and is not up on all the rules or past events. ChrisDJackson
- Way too new. -- DrBob 18:33, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Not yet, but in another few weeks, I think so. BCorr|Брайен 20:25, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Oppose. Don't like at all how he behaved in the edit wars on Heteronormativity and his precious Critical Theory article series box. Maybe in a year or so, but right now, not even close to the stuff admins should be made of. -- AlexR 05:01, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- The edit war in question was me stepping into an existing mess involving AlexR and Sam Spade. I attempted to negotiate a compromise position. In this case, the attempts at compromise pleased no one, and I will readily agree that, on the whole, Heteronormativity has been the article in which my edits have been the least successful. As for the ASB, it was hardly precious, and I point out that I've been doing heavy work on deleting it from articles and replacing it with the category system today, and intend to finish the job up tomorrow. My purpose was always to make information available - there's finally a better system in place than ASBs, and I've been swift to adopt it. Snowspinner 05:15, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- I would mention that while this was probably Snowspin's lowpoint on the wikipedia, anyone who reviews it would see that it in no way displayed anything which should exclude him from adminship, particularly since he was so new to the wiki at that time. Sam [Spade] 20:55, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- What I said was by no means only about his first edits there. The very same picture continues until yesterday, where he insisted on installing categories about a field he knows, by his own admission, little, to get a link removed from the article he does not like. And I spent a good time to clean up after him, because at least one category was so inapropriatley named it bordered on insult. Sorry, but this is not how admins should behave. -- AlexR 13:30, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- As I've said before, feel free to review the edit history on Heteronormativity, and to read the talk archives. It's the worst work I've done on Wikipedia. I don't think it violates rules, and I don't think it displays bad judgment. I think it's a textbook example of a bad situation, where the options were to leave an article that needs serious work alone, or to get into a tense situation. I picked the latter. If I could go back, I'd pick the former, because the article is still in need of serious work, but now I have an ulcer. Snowspinner 15:58, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
- This claim is ridiculous. Snowspinner dropped into the article only hours after several edit wars had come to a temporary stand. Obviously the article was not in best shape, which article is after an edit war? Also, these edit wars were by no means only between Sam Spade and me. Snowspinner did some minor clean-ups, and that was that, and the last few edit wars were between Sam Spade and him. So sorry, but this is disinformation he is providing here. -- AlexR 20:02, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- As I've said before, feel free to review the edit history on Heteronormativity, and to read the talk archives. It's the worst work I've done on Wikipedia. I don't think it violates rules, and I don't think it displays bad judgment. I think it's a textbook example of a bad situation, where the options were to leave an article that needs serious work alone, or to get into a tense situation. I picked the latter. If I could go back, I'd pick the former, because the article is still in need of serious work, but now I have an ulcer. Snowspinner 15:58, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
- The edit war in question was me stepping into an existing mess involving AlexR and Sam Spade. I attempted to negotiate a compromise position. In this case, the attempts at compromise pleased no one, and I will readily agree that, on the whole, Heteronormativity has been the article in which my edits have been the least successful. As for the ASB, it was hardly precious, and I point out that I've been doing heavy work on deleting it from articles and replacing it with the category system today, and intend to finish the job up tomorrow. My purpose was always to make information available - there's finally a better system in place than ASBs, and I've been swift to adopt it. Snowspinner 05:15, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Just as we have a 90-day requirement before one can vote in the current election it seems sensible to retain a 'qualification' period for holding any other position such as admin. One needs that full 90 days of history to base a decision upon. --VampWillow 17:01, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Not willing to listen to the other users. Does not understand word consensus - general or widespread agreement among all the members of a group --Avala 18:32, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- No, Snowspinner, Abe and GrazingshipIV work way too close I worry about these users getting together as Sysops, makes me wonder who is cabal that they often cite. Comrade Nick @)----^-- 03:23, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- [1] is probably of interest to people regarding this vote. Snowspinner 06:13, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
- I have now reviewed this user's edits, and find his behavior on Heteronormativity problematic. JRR Trollkien (see warning) 10:44, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Neutral
- VV 22:04, 30 May 2004 (UTC) While 172's motives in making this nomination are suspect, Snowspinner is clearly an excellent choice. However, I do share the broader concerns about this being way too soon. So, neither support or oppose for now.
- High on a tree 13:17, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC) Snowspinner deleted a perfectly reasonable comment by his opponent in a discussion (using a dubious edit description), clearly against that person's will. I'd be quite concerned about someone who acts like that getting administrator privileges. However, I appreciate that he has done a tremendous amount of productive work here, and that incident occurred shortly after he joined WP - so, time preventing me from getting a more complete picture (on how he has acted in conflicts since then), I abstain from voting Oppose.
- This was less an attempt at censorship and more an instance of outright carelessness - I'd meant to move the comment to Talk:Fashionable Nonsense (Since it was a comment on that article, and not on Sokal Affair, removed the comment, and then apparently got distracted and forgot to ever put it into the other article. Based on the time of day, I probably had just set my lunch on fire or something. I apologize for this. Snowspinner 14:28, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
Discussion
I'm curious as to the reasoning behind objecting to a nomination due to the nominator. Snowspinner 22:39, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
- Sam Spade noted the nominator as one of his reasons for opposing - your comment was not the one I was referring to. :) Snowspinner 15:41, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
- Since a nominator has the permission of the nominee, it is incumbent upon the nominee to show judgement in refusing any nominations that are inappropriate. There have been some recent examples involving a user with a pattern of making nominations of users who were not suitable candidates. I consider 172 a user in good standing, however, and only oppose this nomination based on the objective criteria I try to follow when voting here. UninvitedCompany 02:49, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
After considering the ChrisDJackson incident, I decided to examine Snowspinner's record a little bit. Snowspinner first edited this page (RfA) on April 18, also the day of Snowspinner's first edit. Considering I had a three month gap between when I first edited (December 23) and when I first edited RfA (March 2), I found it very strange that a new user would be interested in this page on his/her first day. --"DICK" CHENEY 02:48, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- The edit was a non-voting edit in the process of discussing UninvitedCompany's nomination. There was some discussion over the fact that UninvitedCompany had previously used a different account. Someone mentioned a "reason for concern that they didn't feel comfortable going into." Another person asked what this reason was. I speculated that it was the use of a different account that had been mentioned elsewhere in the discussion. As for why I was on the page so early in my Wikilife, it's linked to off of Community Portal, and I was on Community Portal because it seemed like a very sensible page for a user to hit on his first day. I saw the link to RfA, I followed it out of curiosity, I saw the discussion, I attempted to clarify. There's really nothing sinister at all about it. (In fact, it's possible that the edit in question wasn't even originally made under my name - my April 18th edits were, I believe, all IP edits that I had assigned to my username later on.) Snowspinner 03:09, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
Snowspinner is a dedicated and serious contributor that I feel needs to be rewarded for all his great work, making him an admin will show him as a great example as well as give him and others further impulse to improve and enrich Wiki. --GeneralPatton 18:24, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Editing Saddam Hussein this guy's 172's lapdog please vote no; they should both be banned
- I would like to note that the userpage of this user clearly indicates that it is a sockpuppet account. Snowspinner 04:05, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Moved from oppose. Guanaco 04:15, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Could this be the persistent anti-Snowspinner vandal? Guanaco 04:22, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Very possibly. See [2] for an accounting of what's been going on with this and some other IPs/usernames. Short form: it's very likely a sockpuppet of Plato/ComradeNick. Snowspinner 06:13, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
No vote yet. Why is the dagger for June 18th? I thought that the recommended period was 3 months, not 2 months. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:46, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
- It's not. I think you're misreading. It's for July 18th. :) Snowspinner 21:36, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
- No wonder I failed 1st grade... - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:42, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
Self nominations for adminship
- Self-nominators, please review the qualifications above. Self-nominees should "exceed the usual guidelines by a good measure." To be considered seriously you should have an account name that is many months old. Most voters will want to see many hundreds of edits. Anything less will be regarded as obviously unqualified.
PMA (18/0/0) 17:54, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I would like to apply to be an Administrator again. PMA 17:54, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Support
- Snowspinner 18:13, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC) Unless he was forcibly removed as an administrator, or something along those lines, I see no reason why a former administrator shouldn't be allowed to return.
- Support. Jwrosenzweig 19:18, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support (again). -- Cecropia | Talk 19:36, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC) -- add just a comment. When he first looked for reinstatement, I asked whether a vote was really necessary. I still wonder why, since his temporary de-sysoping was voluntary at his request.
- Support --"DICK" CHENEY 20:23, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support. 172 20:25, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Tuf-Kat 20:37, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Tεxτurε 20:58, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Yep. →Raul654 21:04, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Welcome back in advance ;-) BCorr|Брайен 21:11, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Cribcage 13:44, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Sam [Spade] 14:30, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) I'm not really sure this should be necessary tho, he was already voted in
- Not necessary at all. Admins in good standing who voluntarilly gave up their status should be able to return without a vote. Oh, and he's a good contributor, by the way. Isomorphic 16:59, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- As there was no reason for him to lose it in the first place, I see no reason he should not have his adminship back. Angela. 17:11, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Merovingian ↕ T@Lk 20:10, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
- I thought he already was one. Oh wait, he was :). anthony (see warning)
- Definitely. -- Chris 73 | Talk 05:20, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Why not? - Fennec (さばくのきつね) 16:27, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Kingturtle 10:34, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Comments
- What were the circumstances that led to you losing administrator status? - Tεxτurε 18:19, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- This diff [3] from March 23 shows PMA requesting voluntarily to be de-sysopped. As an editor on semi-vacation currently, I understand completely his weariness, and applaud his desire to take up "active duty" once again. Jwrosenzweig 19:19, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Tosha (0/4/1) ends 23:29, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I am doing geometry part of wikipedia and I need bit more rights due to the categorization.
Support
- Tosha is a very high quality contributor. I think any negative experiences mentioned below should be taken in the light of the fact that he is not a native English speaker, and had early difficulties in understanding the system, and being understood. I have worked quite close to his area of differential geometry, and can honestly say we are lucky to have him writing for Wikipedia, given his level of expertise. Charles Matthews 20:39, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- This may sound callous of me, but I think that people with difficulties working in English, although often invaluable contributors, shouldn't be sysops. Administrative decisions all too often require grasps of nuance, sarcasm, and things that get lost in translation. Snowspinner 23:03, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
Oppose
- Have had nothing but negative experiences with this user. From my experience, he seemed very disinclined to cooperate with other editors. In articles he edits, it is his way or else. -- Decumanus 03:16, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- BCorr|Брайен 12:14, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Tεxτurε 18:21, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC) - The request shows a lack of understanding of what the role entails.
- Cyrius|✎ -- Looking at his edit history, his conflict policy seems to be "revert first, maybe ask questions later".
Neutral
- UninvitedCompany 23:32, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- A quick check showed good contributions, could not find negative experience (but did not check extensively, so I probably just missed it). Yet, why does S/he need admin rights for categories? -- Chris 73 | Talk 05:27, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Possibly category deletion? The ability to delete orphaned categories is useful. Guanaco 15:25, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Comments
- You don't explicitly need "rights" to make or change things wrt categories. Dysprosia 05:53, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree. His reason for requesting it is dubious at best. →Raul654 05:55, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)
User:Itai; ends 07:47, 12 June 2004 (UTC)
I've been here for some time - less than some, more than others - and think that becoming an admin is a proper step towards illumination. If voted an admin, I promise to do very little harm, and to revert for fun no more than half the number of articles I revert due to vandalism. -- Itai 07:47, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Suport
- Support. Itai has made over 2200 edits since the start of December and seems to have a good understanding of Wikipedia. Angela. 10:51, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support - A brief glance through the user's history shows nothing but good edits. Burgundavia 10:56, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Support --"DICK" CHENEY 15:06, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Oppose
- anthony (see warning) Oppose temporarily with a request to clarify what it means "to revert for fun no more than half the number of articles I revert due to vandalism." Is that a joke or something?
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