Talk:Stargate (device)

The spoken aloud gate symbols and wormhole physics

During season 7 we find out that the gate symbols can be spoken aloud. They never seem to go into detail at to what symbol is for what syllable. Is there a resource somewhere where someone has taken the time to find out the syllable goes with each gate symbol? I don't have the time myself to do it but know there are at least two episodes where gate symbols are shown and they are spoken aloud at the same time. I have already added the two I know from memory (and from being shown exclusively by O'Neill) into the table under wormhole physics.

Speaking of wormhole physics, during "38 minutes" on SGA, they state the a stargate only sends through whole items. (IE, the whole puddlejumper) yet in "the torment on tantalus" Ernest Littleford has a air pipe attached to him when he enters the gate and therefore shouldn't have made it as the gate shuts down with the air pipe being severed. Itchy Flea (talk) 03:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually in "38 Minutes" they do predict that when the gate shuts down their ship will cut in half. This is consistent with various SG-1 scenes where the gate shuts down while something has not completely passed through. 60.242.247.168 (talk) 14:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

There are lots of inconsistencies like that one - the writers don't pay as much attention to internal consistency as geeks do, unfortunately! --Tango (talk) 03:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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Ships such as the Ancient puddle jumper and the Wraith dart are designed to fit through Stargates, and have built-in DHDs

-> wasnt there an episode in that master bratak flies through a gate with a spacecraft and tells somthing about "old ways" or something? i think that looked realy old, although it was never mentioned again. (sorry for design errors) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.34.181.187 (talk) 22:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that was in Into the Fire. I don't think it was specified whether or not it had its own DHD, but it was apparently abandoned due to being too difficult to fly. --Tango (talk) 03:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

The Gate only sends whole things through when it's ON. In the torment on tantalus the gate ran out of power before the pipe cam through. In 38 minutes, had not SGA pushed the puddle jumper through, the gate would shut down automatically, slicing the jumper in half.68.50.57.15 (talk) 03:35, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

How many wormhole

Te adresses of the Milky Way

38 symbols on a DHD, (-1 because the start point is constant): 37 variable 37*36*35*34*33*32=1673844480

In the article: “With 38 symbols, the Stargate Network in the Milky Way has 1,987,690,320 possible 7-symbol addresses.”

Why??? --Stewe007 (talk) 05:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Practically (because the address is 6 point only) the sequence is indifferent:same gate or not make wormhole

${\frac {1673844480}{6!}}=2324784$ possible 7-symbol addresses.

- Stewe007 (talk) 07:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

No, the sequence does matter according to the explanation in the movie - and I don't remember anything that said otherwise in the series. Each pair of symbols defines a line running between the identified constellations. So if your address is abcdefg, you have lines ab, cd, and ef, and the intersection point is the destination. But lines ac, bf, and de would be a different set of lines, hence a different destination - if any; those lines would probably not intersect. It makes no sense either way (you only need two intersecting lines to determine a point in space, and constellations do not have a single defined location in 3d space anyway) but that's what they said. Jeh (talk) 18:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

$37*36*35*34*33*32=1673844480$ is the correct answer since Stargate addresses are permutations without repetition, not combinations. Excluding the origin, you only have 37 symbols to pick from. You can and must use 6 symbols at one time(disregarding the 7th, 8th, and 9th chevrons). You can't use the same one more than once. And the order matters. --The godfaza 12:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The godfaza (talk • contribs)

In my opinion the order matters, but not as you think. Consider six points in a three-dimensional space. There is only one set of three lines linking two points each that can intersect in a single point or approximately doing so. This means that every planet must have its unique combination of 6 symbols, but to succesfully dial you must also input the right permutation so the system can locate it. 85.49.153.238 (talk) 09:48, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

sgu chevron symbols

You can't have two origin symbols. Which one is right? 67.169.34.161 (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Watch the series - The PoO changes when the Gate is moved. Supakillaii (talk) 16:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Use of the term "stargate" in other works

This section broadens the scope of this article too much. We already have Stargate (disambiguation), so I am going to remove it.--~TPW 16:24, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Stargate inner ring rotation

I know this doesn't seem important to the article but I thought someone here might know:

What are the rules governing which direction each gate spins to select each symbol? In standard milky way gates the ring does not spin at all, but does the Stargate command, Pegasus, and universe gates rotate in such a way to select the symbols the quickest or are they intended to always switch direction after selecting and if so which way do they start off. --72.64.105.184 (talk) 22:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC) All three models follow the same pattern: first they spin clockwise, engage the first chevron, spin counter-clockwise, engage the second chevron, spin clockwise and so on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.103.194.110 (talk) 23:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)