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:'''Keep''' She was a well known person in the movie business before her death, and her death is now creating a lot of news in Los Angeles. 22 November 2010 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/144.142.12.66|144.142.12.66]] ([[User talk:144.142.12.66|talk]]) 19:42, 22 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:'''Keep''' She was a well known person in the movie business before her death, and her death is now creating a lot of news in Los Angeles. 22 November 2010 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/144.142.12.66|144.142.12.66]] ([[User talk:144.142.12.66|talk]]) 19:42, 22 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Just being well-known does not make one notable. For example, many YouTube stars are well-known but are not notable by Wikipedia standards. Also, just because her death is causing a lot of news does not make her notable. Many deaths cause big news. What if this disappears in another day? <span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;">'''/[[User:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:#000;">ƒETCH</span>]][[User talk:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:#000;">COMMS</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Fetchcomms|<span style="color:#000;">/</span>]]'''</span> 21:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
::Just being well-known does not make one notable. For example, many YouTube stars are well-known but are not notable by Wikipedia standards. Also, just because her death is causing a lot of news does not make her notable. Many deaths cause big news. What if this disappears in another day? <span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;">'''/[[User:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:#000;">ƒETCH</span>]][[User talk:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:#000;">COMMS</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Fetchcomms|<span style="color:#000;">/</span>]]'''</span> 21:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Crime|list of Crime-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 02:46, 23 November 2010 (UTC)</small>

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The late subject of this article does not seem sufficiently notable and has not received any coverage previous to her recent murder (WP:BIO1E). Google News shows only brief mentions in the archives, and I highly doubt that a publicist is notable enough for an article. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:35, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree with the above. Fixer23 (talk) 08:00, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There's lots of people with articles on wikipedia who only became notable when they were murdered and received no coverage prior to their deaths. Leno_and_Rosemary_LaBianca, Mary_Jo_Kopechne, J_D_Tippit, Ron_Goldman, John_Birch_(missionary). In most of those cases the person who murdered them or caused their deaths are notable while the subjects themselves are remarkably non-notable. Ronni Chasen at least appears to have been a notable person to notable people before her murder. Ecwfrk (talk) 09:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Also, please prove that Chasen was notable before her death by citing a reliable source. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She may not have been all that notable before, but she sure is now. Keith Henson (talk) 19:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is related to my point. Just being murdered does not make her notable; please see WP:BIO1E. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She was a well known person in the movie business before her death, and her death is now creating a lot of news in Los Angeles. 22 November 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.142.12.66 (talk) 19:42, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just being well-known does not make one notable. For example, many YouTube stars are well-known but are not notable by Wikipedia standards. Also, just because her death is causing a lot of news does not make her notable. Many deaths cause big news. What if this disappears in another day? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]