Talk:Jenny Schecter

Most Hated character Poll

The fact that Jenny's character was voted the most hated in the L word comes hand-to-hand with the decision of the creators to take fan feedback for the last season. It's important to have the line included in an article as it helped decide the character's fate. I suggest conducting a discussion here on what should stay or not of that sentence. Whatever POV was compromised on the sentence has been considered. If a consensus isn't reached a Third Opinion will be requested. --TLW (talk) 22:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

WWJD?

I have added a section to Jenny's article on the now defunct blog What Would Jenny Do?. If anyone can find reference to the blog online it would greatly benefit the article's citations. Unfortunately OurChart.com has been merged to SHO.com and I guess most of the information hosted on the site is now permanently gone. --TLW (talk) 03:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Second & Third Season?

shouldnt someone put her second and third season?

Although Jenny's storyline is far more rich in the first season, part of the storyline involving those seasons has been added to the article. The fourth season should also be added. However, one should wait and see how it develops as there isn't much to say about her so far in it. --TLW 08:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

About The Jenny/Dana Link

Donnabella posted this question under Jenny's Chart thumbnail:

Didn't they have an awkward foreplay in the first season after which they mutually agreed that they were an awful match?

In fact, they did. But someone argued in Dana's article discussion page that they should not be connected because they didn't have anything. I was just making clear that the connection is based on the fact that 1) Jenny and Dana were connected on the Chart displayed at the end of episode 3.12 and 2) Jenny herself commented about the awkward hookup in episode 3.11. --TLW 04:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

By heteronormative standards, that someone in the Dana Talk page (which I couldn't find, btw) is absolutely right. None of their friends seemed aware of it without Jenny's comment. Donnabella 22:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

OK... I'll upload the chart for you within this talk page --TLW 03:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

--TLW 03:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

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Any stats on the anti-Jenny lobby?

In the special features for the Season 4 DVDs, a lot of the fan writers mention identifying with Jenny, with two disclaimers: 1) she's a writer, and 2) even though all (*asterisk) the fans hate her. I'm also wondering how much Jenny is an alter ego of Ilene Chaiken? Factually there are some important differences (Jenny Schechter never worked on Fresh Prince) but as far as personality? Donnabella (talk) 00:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

New

I gave the article a make over and it's better not to go crazy and expand the storyline section out again. Plenty of real world info thrown in there. That's how the others should look like, so L word fans, you know what to do. LolRAIN the ONE (Talk) 19:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

major cleanup

This article is embarrassingly bad and gramatically incorrect. I don't have time to clean it up right now, but it desperately needs it. Carrie1113 (talk) 02:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Only just seen this, if it bothers you, a month has passed, maybe you'd like to correct the faults?RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 00:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jenny Schecter/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• I will make some comments on this by the end of the weekend.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• The WP:LEAD needs to be reformatted as 2 or 3 paragraphs (possibly one paragraph summarizing each section below).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:05, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Done
• Link New York on first use, not second and third.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:19, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Done
• You also need to link The New Yorker.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Where is The New Yorker mentioned? I can't see it, think I'm having a blindspot. I've looked through a few times.RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 22:49, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Ctrl-f it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC) Done

Character development

• "Jenny is based on series creator Ilene Chaiken's past experiences from when she was younger" begs the questions What experiences? and What aspects of Jenny? Done
• New York Magazine, not Magazine New York.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:19, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Done
• "Throughout her duration Jenny went on a journey which saw her transform into a selfish egotist and many observers have perceived her as a narcissist" comma follwing duration and journey. Done
• Where is the leading quote for "They also observe her as looking fabulous, fun, and sexy but her downfall is her annoying side." Also comma after sexy if you don't want to make it a new sentence. Done
• "whiny egomaniac" period Done
• Of her character's changes after season five comma Done
• Responding to the criticism Jenny has received comma--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Done

Storylines

• Please spell out and link MFA. Done
• Is Iowa affiliated with the University of Iowa in this use. If so, please link and spell that out. Done
• Lets write this all in a constant tense. I guess I would prefer past.

Comment - As the storylines are discussing the fiction taking place, it's meant to be present tense, as it can happen over and over again. If it was put in past tense, it would therefore suggest these things happened to Jenny, making her seem like a living person.RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 17:45, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• "She won a major literary award and has had one of her short stories published, she meets a man named Tim Haspel (Eric Mabius) who she moves to Los Angeles to start a new life with." should be split into two sentences or conjoined with a conjunction after correction for tense. Done
• I think the story lines should clarify which season each thing happened. I would dedicate one paragraph to each season and say which season was which. Done
• "She becomes best friends with Shane when Tim moves out, she moves in with her." split or conjoin Done
• Jenny starts having flashbacks of her childhood where it is revealed she was sexually abused. Probably change where to in which. Done
• Jenny starts writing another book and writing classes to improve. This sentence is not conjoined in parallel structure because writing is two different parts of speach in these two uses. The way it is currently constructed both clauses are dependent upon the noun-verb Jenny starts with the meaning the same as the following: Jenny starts writing another book, and Jenny starts writing classes to improve. However, proper construction in my mind would be Jenny starts writing another book and taking writing classes to improve, which would have the same meaning as Jenny starts writing another book, and Jenny starts taking writing classes to improve. I think the latter is better. You may also want to say what she was trying to improve. Done
• "and when she finds out the truth" should be preceded with a comma and she should be replaced with Jenny. Done
• She meets Moira Sweeney (Daniela Sea) who is transitioning into a male. comma before who Done
• "Marina briefly returns during the play and Jenny realises she is over her" split or comma before and. Done
• Split or conjoin "Jenny becomes more unbalanced when she adopts a dog to get close to a vet, she later has the dog put down and begins dating the woman as part of her plan to ruin her girlfriend." Done
• Looks good, but "pretending to be distraught" should be at the beginning of the sentence so it can modify Jenny rather than down. Start as "Pretending to be distraught, Jenny. . ." Done
• Whilst filming comma. Done
• Similarly, "Whilst on a camping trip," Done
• Split or conjoin "She hires Adele Channing as her personal assistant, she then starts a relationship with the films biggest star Niki Stevens (Kate French)." Done
• O.K. but "biggest star Niki Stevens" needs a comma after star.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:40, 28 November 2010 (UTC) Done
• Split or conjoin "Adele later films them having sex, Niki who . . ." Done
• Split or conjoin "She stands down and asks Niki to join her, the split when she doesn't join her." Also the -> they,. Done
• Comma after interrogated "They are interrogated and Alice ends up in jail for murder."--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Done
• "They begin a relationship, Jenny later ends it." split or conjoin Done
• "Helena later finds out that Jenny revealed Dylan the truth, this makes Helena desperate for revenge on her old friend." needs to be split or conjoined and the first part seems ungrammatical.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:06, 28 November 2010 (UTC) Done

Reception

• "They also describe" is odd because it is a pronoun whose referent is in another paragraph. Don't begin a paragraph with a pronoun referring to a prior para.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:15, 27 November 2010 (UTC) Done

I shall now begin making the corrections.RAIN..the..ONE ^HOTLINE 16:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I am going to pass this without the formality of the GA Checklist.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)