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Revision as of 18:09, 20 February 2006
In mathematics, Moser's polygon notation is a means of expressing certain extremely large numbers. It is an extension of Steinhaus's polygon notation.
(a number n in a triangle) means nn.
(a number n in a square) is equivalent with "the number n inside n triangles, which are all nested."
(a number n in a pentagon) is equivalent with "the number n inside n squares, which are all nested."
etc.: n written in an (m+1)-sided polygon is equivalent with "the number n inside n m-sided polygons, which are all nested."
Steinhaus only defined the triangle, the square, and a circle , equivalent to the pentagon defined above.
Steinhaus defined:
- "mega" is the number equivalent to 2 in a circle:
- "megiston" is the number equivalent to 10 in a circle:
Moser's number is the number represented by "2 in a megagon", where a "megagon" is a polygon with "mega" sides.
Alternative notations:
- use the functions square(x) and triangle(x)
- let M(n,m,p) be the number represented by the number n in m nested p-sided polygons; then the rules are:
- and
- mega =
- moser =
Mega
Note that is already a very large number, since = square(square(2)) = square(triangle(triangle(2))) = square(triangle(22)) = square(triangle(4)) = square(44) = square(256) = triangle(triangle(triangle(...triangle(256)...))) [256 triangles] = triangle(triangle(triangle(...triangle(256256)...))) [255 triangles] = triangle(triangle(triangle(...triangle(3.2 × 10616)...))) [254 triangles] = ...
Using the other notation:
mega = M(2,1,5) = M(256,256,3)
With the function we have mega = where the superscript denotes a functional power, not a numerical power.
We have (note the convention that powers are evaluated from right to left):
- M(256,2,3) =
- M(256,3,3) = ≈
Similarly:
- M(256,4,3) ≈
- M(256,5,3) ≈
etc.
Thus:
- mega = , where denotes a functional power of the function .
Rounding more crudely (replacing the 257 at the end by 256), we get mega ≈ , using Knuth's up-arrow notation.
Note that after the first few steps the value of is each time approximately equal to . In fact, it is even approximately equal to (see also approximate arithmetic for very large numbers). Using base 10 powers we get:
- ( is added to the 616)
- ( is added to the , which is negligible; therefore just a 10 is added at the bottom)
...
- mega = , where denotes a functional power of the function . Hence
Moser's number
It has been proven that Moser's number, although extremely large, is smaller than Graham's number.
Therefore, using the Conway chained arrow notation,
See also
External links
- Factoid on Big Numbers
- Robert Munafo's Big Numbers, which hints Steinhaus and Moser came up with this notation jointly in the '70s.
- Megistron at mathworld.wolfram.com
- Circle notation at mathworld.wolfram.com