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This Week in Tech?

Why does this redirect to This Week in Tech? Is it not a totally unique podcast? 137.186.22.19 23:30, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, although this WEEK in TECH is also from Leo Laporte, Security Now! is not part of TWiT. The redirect has been removed now. --82.18.242.139 18:31, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Security Now! is not part of TWiT, it is only mentioned so Leo Laporte's recognition from TWiT fame is acknowleged.

Even though Leo Laporte is on the receiving end of the call or chat, the idea for the show is Steve Gibson as mentioned in a past podcast. Therefore I would nominate Steve Gibson as the host or both Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte as co-hosts.

I believe the files used to be tagged (I say used to as they don't seem to be tagged anymore...) as Steve Gibson with Leo Laporte. Although really I think its kind of a pointless debate, they're both equally important, so why not just list them both as hosts. --Falcorian 17:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Security Now! is a member of the Twit.tv network. 68.184.209.190 03:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Episode numbering

The special edition episode is not numbered on the GRC's official Security Now website. The last episode as of 3/8/2006 would be numbered 29, not 30.

I will renumber this in the main article.--BorisFromStockdale 21:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite

I rewrote this article and I hope I've combined the best bits of both. I converted the episode list into a table from the number list. --vortex ^talk 13:35, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely done! --Falcorian ^(talk) 01:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

I agree with Boris, they are on Gibson's page, and they have little place here. --Falcorian ^(talk) 19:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. It was a disruptive edit IMO. --Tim1988 ^talk 16:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Episode list

The episode list is now getting quite large so I've made it "hideable". It seems like the list is expanded by default though I do believe it would be possible to have it collapsed by default, allowing the user to show the episode list if they want to. Perhaps this would be better than having the table showing by default? I'm not sure how to do this though. --Tim1988 ^talk 12:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, nicely done. --Falcorian ^(talk) 14:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Podnova link

The link to the Podnova ratings has changed to http://www.podnova.com/top40/. How are link changes in references sections handled in general? -- Raffen 18:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC) 20:00, May 28 2007 (CET)[reply]

List Updating

The list needs to be updated more often I added 97 but someone still needs to make sure the list stays up to date. --Bob12321 01:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been adding them when I remember, however I am not exactly brilliant at writing short and concise descriptions of what was discussed. -- RpgCyco 12:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will try as well to remember to update the page. I noticed that episode 105 was missing so I added it. As for the descriptions could we use the descriptions on the TWiT.tv SN! page. Or would that be a violation of one of the copyright rules? Lcarsos 04:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would think that would violate the license wiki works under, so better to just summarize in one's own words. --Falcorian ^(talk) 06:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mailbag Episodes

Is it a good idea to have a coloured background for the new mailbag episodes? -- RpgCyco 12:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it would be good to differentiate the Mailbag episodes from the standard episodes just as the Q&A episodes are, perhaps with a different color. Lcarsos 04:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess this problem has been solved now, thanks to the mailbag and Q&A episodes being merged into a Listener Feedback episode. -- RpgCyco 03:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dates

I've noticed in the past, that while we are linking to Gibson's security now page, the dates have been taken from Leo's twit.tv website. Shouldn't the dates be taken from grc.com so it's all consistent? That's my opinion anyway. :) -- RpgCyco (talk) 07:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special Highlighting for Episode 209?

I just added Eps 207 - 209, and stopped short of using the blue highlight for Ep 209, as the blue seemed to be used for Out-of-band updates (extra episodes not released on the official release day of the podcast.) However, it DOES seem like there should be some special notice of this episode due to it's being mostly devoted to Steve's discussion of Vitamin D, and very little about Security. If no one objects by next week, I'm going to choose an appropriately DIFFERENT color and highlight it. NipokNek (talk) 13:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have now done my edits and choose a shade of yellow (#FFFF99) for this occasion. NipokNek (talk) 10:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Conflict

I am temporarily removing the reference to the podcasts copyright status. Leo Laporte's page references the Creative Commons by-nc-sa 2.5 license, however Steve Gibson's page says "The contents of this page are Copyright (c) 2008 Gibson Research Corporation". I'd be willing to bet that the license on Steve's page is just a boilerplate, and I'm going to send him a message about that, but until there's a clear answer it should probably come out of the article. NipokNek (talk) 06:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And they very helpfully went and specifically mentioned the CC license in episode 212, so I put it back. http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-212.pdf NipokNek (talk) 05:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Episode List?

The episode list is generally not up to date (almost five months missing as of now) and has already grown very long. I suggest removing it from this article and just link to the episode list on grc.com/sn. What do you think?

Ehamberg (talk) 13:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the current way it's done is not good, but I would suggest considering to split it off into a separate article, like those "List of episodes" articles you see for TV-series. --DanielPharos (talk) 17:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page name

It has been proposed in this section that Security Now be renamed and moved to Security Now!.

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Security Now → Security Now! — Official name see http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm and text in transcripts for every show. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 14:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Despite the official name, it's better to avoid punctuation in titles if it doesn't need it. Altho Yahoo seems to disagree. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 06:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the article title policy

Mild oppose, I wouldn't mind that much, but third-party sources (such as the first reference in the article) omit the exclamation mark, so we can too. --Kotniski (talk) 11:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And that is done because of software limitation in handling special characters. So we as an Encyclopedia are actually going to make the article title knowingly wrong because some other websites software won't handle it. This article has been correct since 2005 until 23 December 2010 when it was changed without discussion. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 12:05, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Oppose''' Despite the official name, it's better to avoid punctuation in titles if it doesn't need it. Altho [[Yahoo!|Yahoo]] seems to disagree. [[User:Dondegroovily|<font color="red">'''D&nbsp;O&nbsp;N&nbsp;D&nbsp;E</font>'''&nbsp;<small>groovily</small>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Dondegroovily|<font color="green">Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</font>]] 06:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
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 *'''Mild oppose''', I wouldn't mind that much, but third-party sources (such as the first reference in the article) omit the exclamation mark, so we can too. --[[User:Kotniski|Kotniski]] ([[User talk:Kotniski|talk]]) 11:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
+:*And that is done because of software limitation in handling special characters. So we as an Encyclopedia are actually going to make the article title knowingly wrong because some other websites software won't handle it. This article has been correct since 2005 until 23 December 2010 when it was changed without discussion. Regards, [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] <sup>([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]])</sup> 12:05, 31 December 2010 (UTC)