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==Odd choices for businesses in the notable establishments section==
==Odd choices for businesses in the notable establishments section==
I added several notable locations to the appropriate section a few months ago and they were removed dismissively. Rather than start an edit war, I'm asking a third party to assess it. As it is the 'notable' locations includes a music/comics/novelty chain store (just one of 30 locations, but it gets mentioned twice) and a Barnes and Noble (the Coop, sadly), but doesn't mention the two oldest retail businesses in the Square (Cardullo's and Pinocchio's) or the unique independent record stores (3) and comic book shops (2) which actually contribute to the local culture and identity of the area. It also lists every book store except for one: Raven, specializing in non-fiction. Honestly, it may or may not be notable, but doesn't it seem off and uncomfortably discriminatory to list five, but not all six? It should either be pared down or completed. Anyway, at the very least I hope Pinocchio's gets returned; I think many locals would agree that it's the most iconic business in the Square. ''[The person who removed my additions did so on the grounds that I was biased by my 'favorite hangout spots'. For what it's worth, I haven't ever been inside several of those businesses; I just live in and know the area. I realize my impressions of importance will be subjective, but I believe the current list is much worse, since it reflects a lack of authentic knowledge of the area and a disconcerting bias towards chain stores, simply because they have blue links.]''
I added several notable locations to the appropriate section a few months ago and they were removed dismissively. Rather than start an edit war, I'm asking a third party to assess it. As it is the 'notable' locations includes a music/comics/novelty chain store (just one of 30 locations, but it gets mentioned twice) and a Barnes and Noble (the Coop, sadly), but doesn't mention the two oldest retail businesses in the Square (Cardullo's and Pinocchio's) or the unique independent record stores (3) and comic book shops (2) which actually contribute to the local culture and identity of the area. It also lists every book store except for one: Raven, specializing in non-fiction. Honestly, it may or may not be notable, but doesn't it seem off and uncomfortably discriminatory to list five, but not all six? It should either be pared down or completed. Anyway, at the very least I hope Pinocchio's gets returned; I think many locals would agree that it's the most iconic business in the Square. ''[The person who removed my additions did so on the grounds that I was biased by my 'favorite hangout spots'. For what it's worth, I haven't ever been inside several of those businesses; I just live in and know the area. I realize my impressions of importance will be subjective, but I believe the current list is much worse, since it reflects a lack of authentic knowledge of the area and a disconcerting bias towards chain stores, simply because they have blue links.]''<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User: 98.216.50.36 | 98.216.50.36 ]] ([[User talk: 98.216.50.36 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 98.216.50.36 |contribs]]) 09:54, 6 January 2011 (UTC) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


:I tend to think that there are ''already'' too many individual stores listed. As for age, Cardullo's (~1950) is nowhere near the oldest retail business in the Square: ''cf.'' Schoenhof's, Leavitt & Peirce, and the Coop, which were all founded in the 19th century. As for Pinocchio's, surely you jest -- it opened in the 1970's, after Passim, Colonial Drug, Dickson Bros, Gnomon Copy, Felix's, Out of Town, Bartley's, Pamplona, etc. In any case, the goal should not be to list all the individual stores, but to characterize the environment; individual stores should only be mentioned if there's something especially notable about them, or if they're useful to paint the picture. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 14:27, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:I tend to think that there are ''already'' too many individual stores listed. As for age, Cardullo's (~1950) is nowhere near the oldest retail business in the Square: ''cf.'' Schoenhof's, Leavitt & Peirce, and the Coop, which were all founded in the 19th century. As for Pinocchio's, surely you jest -- it opened in the 1970's, after Passim, Colonial Drug, Dickson Bros, Gnomon Copy, Felix's, Out of Town, Bartley's, Pamplona, etc. In any case, the goal should not be to list all the individual stores, but to characterize the environment; individual stores should only be mentioned if there's something especially notable about them, or if they're useful to paint the picture. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 14:27, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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"Shopping area" accurate?

I don't think it's strictly accurate to describe it as a "shopping area". --Daniel C. Boyer 19:14, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

"pit brats" ->" pit rats"

I've just changed 'pit brats' to 'pit rats', mostly because I've never heard the former and I remember us calling ourselves the latter. If I was wrong, well. Sorry. El Juno 02:27, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hot dang wikipedia is cool. Agree on the pit rats, that's the best term. Harvard Square is an iconic spot to many university students, Boston residents, and figures in Cambridge history, so it'd be great to see it featured. Shane Curcuru 21 Oct 2005

Go for Featured Article status?

I thought it would be a great idea if we could improve this towards featured article status. There's a lot of good work here and on related pages. Good luck! Sdedeo 23:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Political and religious preachers

I wonder if someone local might add a bit about the various fringe religious and political street preachers whom I've often seen there. The ones I've seen most frequently (on rare visits over the past five or so years) are the Revolutionary Communist Party USA and a rather scruffy-looking Roman Catholic preacher with a bullhorn. --FOo 08:53, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cambridge Artists' Cooperative

Hi, I am a co-owner of Cambridge Artists' Cooperative, a gallery of contemporary America fine crafts, located on church street in Harvard Square. We have been in business for 18 years and I would love it if you could include us in your article on Harvard Square.

Please contact me for more information!

Thanks,
Karen Kelley
kkwired@msn.com
617-661-1449
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.239.29.121 (talkcontribs) 07:45, 6 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Hey guys, the "Boston Squares" link under Related Links gave me a 404 error. 130.64.128.191 21:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Working as of this date. Lentower 04:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Globalization and 'Ivytrash'

Um, what's with all the past sense shit? globalization is here so get over it, ivytrash! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.163.155.65 (talkcontribs) 12:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I am not Ivy anything. That was my home. I was born and raised 6 blocks from Harvard Square, and it was (once) the greatest place in this country. I am not interested in 'globalization'. I look at the square and see the smoking ruin of my home. When this happens to you, I hope globalization is comfort enough for you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mthai66 (talkcontribs) 04:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Ferranti-Dege status?

Last time I was in Harvard Square (a few months ago) Ferranti-Dege was alive and well. Can anyone confirm whether it has indeed closed, or if it's still open? 68.248.3.107 01:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)clnfox[reply]


Sorry, it's closed, as of late April I think. More bad news: so is the Greenhouse. Scolbath 22:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Odd choices for businesses in the notable establishments section

I added several notable locations to the appropriate section a few months ago and they were removed dismissively. Rather than start an edit war, I'm asking a third party to assess it. As it is the 'notable' locations includes a music/comics/novelty chain store (just one of 30 locations, but it gets mentioned twice) and a Barnes and Noble (the Coop, sadly), but doesn't mention the two oldest retail businesses in the Square (Cardullo's and Pinocchio's) or the unique independent record stores (3) and comic book shops (2) which actually contribute to the local culture and identity of the area. It also lists every book store except for one: Raven, specializing in non-fiction. Honestly, it may or may not be notable, but doesn't it seem off and uncomfortably discriminatory to list five, but not all six? It should either be pared down or completed. Anyway, at the very least I hope Pinocchio's gets returned; I think many locals would agree that it's the most iconic business in the Square. [The person who removed my additions did so on the grounds that I was biased by my 'favorite hangout spots'. For what it's worth, I haven't ever been inside several of those businesses; I just live in and know the area. I realize my impressions of importance will be subjective, but I believe the current list is much worse, since it reflects a lack of authentic knowledge of the area and a disconcerting bias towards chain stores, simply because they have blue links.]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.50.36 (talkcontribs) 09:54, 6 January 2011 (UTC) [reply]

I tend to think that there are already too many individual stores listed. As for age, Cardullo's (~1950) is nowhere near the oldest retail business in the Square: cf. Schoenhof's, Leavitt & Peirce, and the Coop, which were all founded in the 19th century. As for Pinocchio's, surely you jest -- it opened in the 1970's, after Passim, Colonial Drug, Dickson Bros, Gnomon Copy, Felix's, Out of Town, Bartley's, Pamplona, etc. In any case, the goal should not be to list all the individual stores, but to characterize the environment; individual stores should only be mentioned if there's something especially notable about them, or if they're useful to paint the picture. --Macrakis (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]