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'''Sublime with Rome''' is a collaboration between [[Eric Wilson (bassist)|Eric Wilson]] and [[Bud Gaugh]] of [[Sublime (band)|Sublime]] and [[Rome Ramirez]]. Vocalist and guitarist [[Rome Ramirez]] had previously performed with Wilson and Gaugh occasionally, including [[YouTube]]'s Raw Session and an attempted Sublime reunion. Due to legal issues brought forward by the Nowell estate, the trademarked "Sublime" brand would be withheld so long as the band were to perform without Bradley Nowell. |
'''Sublime with Rome''' is a collaboration between [[Eric Wilson (bassist)|Eric Wilson]] and [[Bud Gaugh]] of [[Sublime (band)|Sublime]] and [[Rome Ramirez]]. Vocalist and guitarist [[Rome Ramirez]] had previously performed with Wilson and Gaugh occasionally, including [[YouTube]]'s Raw Session and an attempted Sublime reunion. Due to legal issues brought forward by the Nowell estate, the trademarked "Sublime" brand would be withheld so long as the band were to perform without [[Bradley Nowell]]. As a result, it was clear that Ramirez would not be allowed to replace Nowell. Instead, Ramirez would join the group of former Sublime members as a "featured" artist. The reformed group performed their first gig together as "Sublime with Rome" in February 2009 in [[Nevada]], followed by [[Cypress Hill]]'s Smokeout Festival that October. On April 20, 2010, the band embarked on their first-ever official [[Sublime with Rome Tour|US tour]], with dates going into that fall. Sublime with Rome is currently writing a debut album, which is due for release in 2011.<ref>[http://www.billboard.com/news/sublime-born-again-with-rome-1004089475.story#/news/sublime-born-again-with-rome-1004089475.story Sublime, "Born Again, With Rome" | Billboard.com]</ref> |
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==History== |
==History== |
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Sublime with Rome is a collaboration between Eric Wilson and Bud Gaugh of Sublime and Rome Ramirez. Vocalist and guitarist Rome Ramirez had previously performed with Wilson and Gaugh occasionally, including YouTube's Raw Session and an attempted Sublime reunion. Due to legal issues brought forward by the Nowell estate, the trademarked "Sublime" brand would be withheld so long as the band were to perform without Bradley Nowell. As a result, it was clear that Ramirez would not be allowed to replace Nowell. Instead, Ramirez would join the group of former Sublime members as a "featured" artist. The reformed group performed their first gig together as "Sublime with Rome" in February 2009 in Nevada, followed by Cypress Hill's Smokeout Festival that October. On April 20, 2010, the band embarked on their first-ever official US tour, with dates going into that fall. Sublime with Rome is currently writing a debut album, which is due for release in 2011.[1]
History
Beginnings and lawsuit
The origins of the collaboration came in February 2009, when Gaugh and Wilson reunited for a show in Nevada and called themselves Sublime; the performance was confirmed on March 1, 2009, by a MySpace blog message from Gaugh's current band Del Mar; the message stated the singer and guitarist that joined Wilson and Gaugh onstage was Rome Ramirez, a then-20-year-old from Northern California.[2] This reformed version of Sublime played another show at Cypress Hill's Smokeout Festival on October 24, 2009 in San Bernardino, California. The festival also featured performances from Kottonmouth Kings, Slipknot, Deftones, Bad Brains and Pennywise.[3]
On October 23, 2009, just one day before the Smokeout Festival concert took place, Nowell's family and the executors of his estate threatened Gaugh and Wilson, along with Rome, with a lawsuit if the reconstituted band continued to use the Sublime moniker. The statement was posted to the band's official MySpace page and read as follows:
It was recently announced that Sublime bassist Eric Wilson and Sublime drummer Floyd 'Bud' Gaugh are 'reuniting' and teaming with singer and guitarist Rome Ramirez in a band they intend to call 'Sublime.' Prior to his untimely passing, both Bud and Eric acknowledged that Brad Nowell was the sole owner of the name Sublime. It was Brad's expressed intention that no one use the name Sublime in any group that did not include him, and Brad even registered the trademark 'Sublime' under his own name.
As Brad's heirs, and with the support of his entire family, we only want to respect his wishes and therefore have not consented to Bud and Eric calling their new project 'Sublime.' We have always supported Bud and Eric's musical endeavors and their desire to continue to play Sublime's music. We wholeheartedly supported Bud, Eric and the many talented members of the Sublime posse that formed the Long Beach Dub All-Stars, soon after Brad's death, to honor him through their original recordings, live performances and Sublime music until they disbanded in 2001. But, out of respect for Brad's wishes, we have always refused to endorse any group performing as 'Sublime,' and now with great reluctance feel compelled to take the appropriate legal action to protect Brad's legacy.
Our hope is that Brad's ex-bandmates will respect his wishes and find a new name to perform under, so as to enhance the 'Sublime' legacy without the confusion and disappointment that many fans have expressed upon seeing the announcement.[4]
On November 3, 2009, a Los Angeles judge shut down an effort by the new lineup of Sublime to perform under the name. Jeremiah Reynolds, who represents the estate of original Sublime singer Bradley Nowell commented on the case:
The point we tried to make is that we encourage these gentlemen to go out and play. We think they're great musicians. We just don't think it's appropriate to call a group that doesn't have Bradley [Nowell] and has a new lead singer Sublime. It's consistent with Brad’s intentions that we seek to protect the name. The court agreed that Bud and Eric and the new lead singer didn't have the right to go out and call themselves Sublime.[5]
As part of the preliminary injunction, the new lineup are said to be unable to perform or record under the name Sublime without approval and permission from the Nowell estate. A spokesman for Gaugh and Wilson declined to comment. Thomas Brackey, who represents the surviving Sublime members, did not return calls. The injunction is dependent upon a bond of $125,000 being posted in the event it is later determined that the defendants -- the surviving Sublime members -- suffered damages as a result of the ruling. Reynolds said the bond would be posted. Gaugh and Wilson issued the following statement:
Our goal continues to be sharing the music and message of Sublime with all of our fans around the world. We intend to take the court's advice and work on a business solution to this issue. We hope the estate follows suit so the music of Sublime can live on and be accessible to everyone.
In January 2010, the case was dismissed and it was finally announced that the new lineup of Rome, Wilson and Gaugh would perform together under Sublime with Rome.[6]
Subsequent touring, planned debut album and beyond
Asked in October 2009 about the future of the project, Gaugh replied:
It'd be great to get back into the studio and make some new music. It'd be great to tour again. But we're taking it a step at a time and as long as each step feels good, then we'll keep on going. One major project under development that we're psyched about is code-named "Brad's House." The idea is to provide free addiction recovery service to underprivileged teens in Brad's honor. The entire Sublime family was devastated by Brad's loss and we would like to help prevent that from happening to others. The band has agreed to allocate proceeds to get this started. We'll begin with one facility but our hope is that we can get other bands and organizations to join us and we can eventually scale it all across the country.[7]
In February 2010, the band confirmed numerous North American dates, as well as plans to tour Europe in May.[8] However, as of June 2010, a European tour in May never came to fruition. Sublime with Rome live shows include Todd Forman on sax and keyboards; Forman was the original sax player on past Sublime studio albums.
Gaugh told Billboard.com that new material from Sublime with Rome was in the cards. The trio wrote three new songs when it first started playing together in February 2009, including one, "Panic," that was performed at all three shows they had done so far. He explained, "We're gonna continue working on material as we're on the road. It's not without question to have a studio in one of the buses while we're on tour. We do a lot of our best creativity on stage, so we'll be trying out new stuff for the fans, even before we go into the studio."
In May 2010, Gaugh revealed to Billboard.com that Sublime with Rome will enter the studio in June for a week "and nail down some of the more worked-out songs, and possibly even finish one or two of them for a late summer radio release". The band expects to have the album out in 2011.[9]
According to Rome, the band will begin recording their debut album in October 2010. In the early summer Sublime With Rome performed their first new song "Panic" on Jimmy Kimmel Live![10]
Tours
- Sublime with Rome Tour (2010)
Discography
- TBA (2011)[11]
References
- ^ Sublime, "Born Again, With Rome" | Billboard.com
- ^ Del Mar & Sublime. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
- ^ Sublime To Reunite For Cypress Hill's Smokeout Fest. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
- ^ Sublime Reunion Show Sparks Controversy. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
- ^ Judge's ruling could put a damper on a Sublime reunion. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
- ^ BREAKING: Sublime Lawsuit Settled; Showdates Planned. Last accessed February 12, 2010.
- ^ A Q&A with Sublime founding member/drummer Bud Gaugh. Last accessed February 4, 2010.
- ^ Sublime Settles On New Band Name, Plots Tour | Billboard.com
- ^ Sublime, Born Again, With Rome | Billboard.com
- ^ http://puregrainaudio.com/news/sublime-with-rome-debut-new-song-panic-on-jimmy-kimmel-live
- ^ Sublime Settles On New Band Name, Plots Tour | Billboard.com
- Reservoired Dog "Interview with Rome Ramirez of Sublime with Rome", NerdSociety.com April 24, 2010.