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This article was automatically created by a perl script. It could use a human's loving touch. Polbot (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Death

MSNBC is reporting he was fatally shot at the 2011 Tucson shooting. Is there confirmation? I don't see any news sources online yet. --Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There was just a similar report/comment on the BBC but it isn't really confirmed as yet, but it doesn't look good, suggest taking our time with this and waiting for an official announcement. Off2riorob (talk) 20:47, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- It might be a good idea to suggest possible semi protection at a future point if it gets busy. Off2riorob (talk) 20:50, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Short blurb at Huffington post. I think we should proceed with caution as the media seems quite confused today - it must be chaotic there.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fox News is now reporting that Roll may not be dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.228.97.2 (talk) 20:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CNN is running a headline quoting President Obama that Roll is dead.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 22:09, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It can be added, then, with the source. It still must comply with BLP and be sourced. That's all. --Kleopatra (talk) 22:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also heard from Obama that Roll is dead (as piped through live from the White House by CNN). — Rickyrab | Talk 22:30, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added a source. The problem was the source used did not link directly to the Obama press conference, that rolled up, if you stayed on the page, after the first press conference which did not mention Roll at all. We have to source information correctly in BLPs. --Kleopatra (talk) 22:35, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reports of Death Threats for a 2009 opinion

Anyone think this fact would be notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lingust (talk • contribs) 20:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

update from Doctor

one dead child - ten patients - five critical and five in Surgery- Off2riorob (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roll live doctor doctor reports is not dead. Off2riorob (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

shooting

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65.93.13.142 (talk) 22:31, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assassinated

Is it POV to say that Roll was assassinated? — Rickyrab | Talk 22:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, there is already media reports that he was assassinated. [1] --Þadius (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is. Most sources report this as a shooting, we have no confirmation of motives. If anything, it's more likely Giffords was the target. "Shot" is the most accurate and neutral word we can use. Trebor (talk) 23:47, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roll wasn't scheduled to be at the event. He just happened to live near the supermarket and swung by to say hello; he was almost certainly shot as a random bystander. THF (talk) 23:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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