Talk:Adam Ant

Bitten by Grace Jones

The article states that Grace Jones nipping Ant's cheek was edited out of the American version of the Honda Motor Scooter ad. Assuming that by "American" the author meant "US," this can't be entirely true - I saw the nipping version of the ad many times on Boston and Providence stations in the 1980s. Perhaps it was edited at first and then restored, or left in at first and edited out after negative feedback, but even that's a stretch - I don't recall ever seeing the ad WITHOUT the nip. 24.34.190.157 (talk) 16:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

D'oh. Maybe it was edited. The article says "ear," but I thought it was his cheek. Either I'm remembering it wrong or I'm remembering something completely different. I do remember her biting him in some way, though. 24.34.190.157 (talk) 16:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Personal Life

This is the first such bio I've read on Wikipedia in which there is no hint whatsoever of a personal life. Is he married, single, divorced? Is he gay, bi, straight? Any kids? There's nothing there! After more than two decades of being in the public eye, surely someone msut know SOMETHING about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.210.153 (talk) 19:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The section on Mr Ant's difficulties with the law contains the quote "where his late father, Leslie Goddard, had been tried and sentenced fifteen years previously for having made indecent suggestions to a minor". Is that really true, or a malicious piece of gossip? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.231.67 (talk) 20:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Tagged October 06p

Cleaned up. It looks as good as the 3 references quoted in the article. Dilane 05:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

New romantic

New Romantic was a lose term that collected a varied bag of New Wave bands under a shared penchant for clothes, image, and a post-punk/Goth sound that usually meant heavy synths, though Adam and the Ants didn't have an elctro sound at all.

Adam Ant a New Romantic? Where does that come from? Zik-Zak

The music press labeled him in with the New romantic scene even though Adam and the Ants had nothing to do with it. (The press does love it's boxes)[Antx]

Also the magazine NME Originals proudly presents The ‘80s, an A-Z of The New Romantics featured Adam Ant (in his Prince Charming make up) as their cover art. Information and picture here http://www.backstreetmerch.com/nme/item.asp?id=nmeo04 Antmusic 21:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Stage Name

The idea that Adam took his name from "Adam Adamant Lives!" is a popular misconception. As I understand this has been suggested to Adam in the past and he has denied it. Zik-Zak

Remove line "He took his stage name from the television series Adam Adamant Lives!." from the intro (inacurate). - Zik-Zak 14:39, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Some speculate that Stuart Goddard may have been indirectly influenced by the cartoon character Atom Ant. --RWBronco 17:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it was more than an indirect influence. Pretty much everyone in the West has known about Atom Ant since the mid 1960s. I can't think of a single person in my life who didn't make the assocation when they heard the name Adam Ant. "Up and At 'em, Atom Ant!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.210.153 (talk) 19:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I've seen this before. You instinctively know that you can't just say "Adam Ant based his name on Atom Ant". So you dress it up a bit, by saying that "some speculate that" etc, or "many people argue that". It's a way of giving unreferenced facts a veneer of respectability. As for the comment by 24.5.210.153, it's either incredibly wrong-headed or a very clever parody of the stereotypical insular North American mindset. It raises the question as to how many British people 24.5.210.153 knows, and how 24.5.210.153 can speak for "pretty much everyone in the West". -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 23:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Criminal Record

Didn't Adam Ant get done on a weapons charge? Could'a sworn I'd read that a few years back.

He did. Flapping a flintlock pistol around, wasn't he? --^pirate 22:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Adam was arrested on Saturday, January 13, 2002 in London, England and he was charged with possession of an imitation firearm with intent to cause fear of violence. Adam was not carrying a real gun but a replica. He eventaully pleaded guilty to affray charges and on October 23, 2002 the court placed him under a 12 month community rehabilitation and fined £500. Antmusic 17:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Solo / group

There is a lot of overlap - and some inconsistency - with the separate article on Adam and the Ants - needs some tidying up. YEAH -- I'll say! For example, the article quotes Adam and the Ants as splitting up in 1984 but then goes on to tell the reader about Adam Ant's first solo hit in .... 1982. Did someone say ... "DUUUUUUUH"?

-- Beardo 06:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Solo/group cleanup

I'm working on cleaning up the Adam Ant and Adam & the Ants articles, mainly removing duplicate information. All comments are welcome, here or on Talk:Adam & the Ants. Econrad 00:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Adam Ant discography table from Adam & the Ants

Separating info, this may be useful here.Econrad 00:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Albums

Year	Album	UK	US
	Adam Ant: (with Pirroni)
1982	Friend or Foe	5	16
1983	Strip	20	65
1985	Vive le Rock	42	131
1990	Manners and Physique	19	57
1990	ANTics in the Forbidden Zone	-	-
1993	Antmusic - the Very Best Of Adam Ant	6	-
1995	Wonderful	24	143

Singles

Year	Song	UK	US
	Adam Ant: (with Pirroni)
1982	"Goody Two Shoes"	1	7
1982	"Friend Or Foe"	9	-
1982	"Desperate But Not Serious"	33	66
1983	"Puss 'N Boots"	5	-
1984	"Apollo 9"	13	-
1984	"Strip"	42	42
1990	"Room At the Top"	13	17
1995	"Wonderful"	32	39
1995	"Gotta Be A Sin"	45	-

I have added all 3 of Adam's first albums. I know the names and dates because I own them. I have the LP, Dirk Wears White Socks, bought at a small used & new record shop in London when my wife and I were on a vacation in London. To the best of my knowledge it has never been released in the US, as vinyl or CD. The other 2 I have both the original LP and the later re-released CD. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 20:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, my I feel like an idiot. I did not realize y'all had separated Adam's first 3 albums with the Ants to a separate page! I will immediately remove my additions. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 04:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Origin of 'Adam Ant'

This fact is in dispute:

His name allegedly comes from the 1960s BBC television series Adam Adamant Lives! [1].

It's often repeated by reliable sources such as the BBC, but considered incorrect by many fans. I am trying to find a reliable source indicating it's not rue. Any/all input (pro or con) would be appreciated.Econrad 14:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, have looked around everywhere, Adam has said on many occasions in interviews that the Name Adam he took because it was the first man and he liked it, and The Ants came from a friend who said one night whilst looking down at a lot of people, "Look at the ants". Also Ants were hard working and he wanted a name like The Beatles.

A quote:

James Maw Official Adam Ant Story 1981:

Four – The girl in the shop

Throughout Art School, Adam’s socialising had been at best, fitful.

At times he’d be genuinely one of the lads, going down to the pub,

having a laugh, and at other times he’d be almost a recluse, talking

to no one, totally absorbed in his work. It was soon after he had

left Art School when no one had seen him for weeks that he phoned

Lester Square out of the blue. “Hey Lester, I want to start a group

called The Ants.”

And that’s how it happened. (The name had been inspired by an

incident one night when Adam and a friend of his, known as “Our

Kid” were on top of a Multi-Storey Car Park. The Kid looked down

at the people below and said “Look at the Ants!”

The Adam Adamant character name is just a coincidence.

Download a pdf of the Official Adam Ant Story here:

http://www.cartrouble.nl/news/jamesmaw.html

This is far more reliable than the BBC site or any other site.

The BBC have used that Adam Adamant thing becuase of probably bad research, someone saw it on a a website or :something and thought it was fact, it's not. They can be wrong too about things.

SteveHorwood 13:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

From: http://www.adam-ant.net/biography.html (Adam's official site):

The Name Change to 'ADAM ANT'

After experimenting with various names, Stuart finally settled on Adam because he'd seen paintings of the Garden of Eden and thought it would be a nice place to be. He decided on The Ants as insect names like the Beatles did well.

I plan on updating the main article shortly, and mention the issue in more detail (and mention 'Adamant Lives! ' is a popular theory that has been denied by Adam). Econrad 00:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I had always assumed it was a play on words on the 60's cartoon character/superhero "Atom Ant". Remenber? "Up and at 'em, Atom Ant!" :) --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 20:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Well then you assumed wrongly, didn't you, Bill? 95.144.244.220 (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

A few things

One cannot help wondering whether Adam was hoping to have a repeat of the success enjoyed by Frankie Goes to Hollywood after their "Relax" and "Two Tribes" videos were also similarly banned by the BBC, no doubt helping both singles along to becoming roaring chart hits.

This is conjecture and not true. Adam had no idea why Strip the video was banned. But it did however cause him to not bother touring the UK.

In 1985, he still had enough appeal to secure a spot at the Live Aid concert, but rather than perform a crowd-pleasing set of old hits - as Queen did to revive their career - he presented songs from the latest album. His sales continued to decline.

Adam only performed ONE song- Vive le Rock, his latest single. He was asked by Geldof on the day to shorten his set because other acts had taken up too much time. He was planning on also playing Antmusic and Goody Two Shoes, but decided to play his latest hit. Famously Adam was the only artist who appeared at Live Aid who's album sales went down after Live Aid!

14:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC) SteveHorwood 14:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It would be interesting to reference this - it sounds vaguely plausible. But then again Nik Kershaw did a longer set at Live Aid, and quickly vanished into an even deeper oblivion. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 23:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

2 edits made

Adam and the Ants split in early 1982 not late 81- AntRap was relased in dec 1981 and early copies of Goody Two Shoes had the name Adam and the Ants on the cover, copies with Adam Ant and Adam and the Ants exist.

The Ants left Adam in early 1980 to form Bow Wow Wow, not to join "Mclaren's other band" Bow Wow Wow.

SteveHorwood 14:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I am confused... I saw him live in... '84, I think. The club was a converted grocery store in San Antonio, Texas. They rocked the place with a solid extended 2 hour set, no break, plus an encore. When the crowd demanded a second encore, Adam told us a friend had stopped by to see the show and asked if we would mind if he sat in? Marco walked out, borrowed the new guy's guitar and he and Adam melted the walls (and most of the women in the house) with the most powerful rendition of "Sex" I have ever heard. So, exactly how broken up were they? --Bill W. Smith, Jr. 20:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

If this was 1984, what you would have seen was solo Adam with his live backing band (guitarist Cha Burns, bassist Chris Constantinou, drummers Bogdan Wiczling and Barry Watts, trumpeter Tony Hughes and saxists Steve Farr & Steve King), with Marco making a guest appearance. As you say yourself, Marco "borrowed the new guy's guitar" - the new guy being the late Cha Burns. Marco remained heavily involved in Adam's career on all his solo albums, he returned to Adam's band full-time in 1985 (including Live Aid) and in 1993-95 and Adam reportedly intends to include three songs he and Marco recently co-wrote on his new album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.242.18 (talk) 11:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, one ex-member guesting on one live song... not exactly "Marco, Merrick, Terry Lee, Gary Tibbs and yours truly" etc is it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Totnesmartin (talk • contribs) 18:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

Film Actor

According to IMDB, Adam Ant appeared in 25 films or TV episodes between 1977 and 1999, so I figured that his status as a film actor should be included in the lead. I've added that sentence, but I apparently don't know how to add references because my reference link is not working. Can someone fix this or point me to instructions on how to fix it?Orayzio 23:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Adam's B-sides and remixes

There is a singles section in this article, but it doesn't include all of his solo singles (looks like it is just the 45s... I added the 12"s for Strip and Puss because they have different versions of the a sides and b sides. Do we want to add the Vive Le Rock remix releases and all the CD singles with their B-Sides and Remixes (Wonderful, Beautiful Dream, Room at the Top)? Do we want to create a seperate Adam Ant discography page so as not to clutter up this one? Antmusic 21:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I did the original singles discog, I have just added the Apollo 9 and Vive le Rock 12"s, I can add the seperate cd single versions of Room At The Top- Gotta Be A Sin too when I have a spare moment Steveant 17:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Other CD releases

What about Complete Radio One Recordings (AKA Peel Seesions) CD releases? Should those be added here and/or on the Adam and the Ants page? Antmusic 23:25, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Ant seen in early pistols gigs

I deleted this, because it is untrue. If it IS true then *I* want to see where. (It may come from a mistaken sighting in the Sex Pistols' Filth and Fury film.) Steveant 10:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture problems

User:Quentin X has nominated the picture for speedy deletion (which I agree should not be used because this article does not discuss the book). Quentin X says that a "freely licensed image could reasonably be found" out there. So, I told them to please replace the book picture with one of the many free pictures of Adam Ant that are out there. I don't think that Quentin X will do that though. If you have a free picture of Adam Ant, or know where one is, please upload it! Thanks, Antmusic 19:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Bipolar diagnosis

I just noticed the article mentions that Adam Ant was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at two different points in time:

[...]

and

[...]

This information can't be correct, but I don't know enough to fix it. I have a vague memory that I read or heard somewhere that Adam Ant had been suffering mental illness since the break-up of his first marriage. Can anyone confirm or deny this? It might be worth adding to the article.

Jammycaketin (talk) 16:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

• This is an unacceptable claim when there is no reference provided. Tom Green (talk) 13:44, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I've removed this. As per WP:BLP, information like this "should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion". --JD554 (talk) 13:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Adam was NOT a member of the Bromley Contingent

"firstly as one of the Bromley contingent who followed the original punk groups" This is incorrect, as is "the Ants were recruited by former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren." Adam hired Malcolm Mcclaren in 1979 for one month to manage the Ants. In early 1980 they Ants decided to leave Adam, hence the Ants mark 1 were over and they formed Bow Wow Wow with Annabella, under Mcclaren's guidance.

Adam was NEVER a member of the Bromley Contingent. Can this be corrected please? Steveant (talk) 03:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia goes by the policy of verifiability not truth (see WP:V), so I've restored this information with a citation. --JD554 (talk) 14:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Taken from this quote? "Being six years younger and not part of the Antpeople demographic, I had no idea that Adam had been so successful. His brand of slightly camp Englishness - principal boy rather than sex god - did not travel as successfully across the Atlantic as, say, Billy Idol (who, despite being part of the same Bromley contingent that hung around Sex, is conspicuously absent from these pages)."

Holly Johnson is incorrect. Billy Idol CAME from Bromley, Adam did not, he was born in North London and never even went to Bromley which is the other side of London! Just because someone said something in a book review (about someone that they admit they don't even know much about) doesn't make it correct. What is the point of wikipedia if it is based on verified "facts" and not the truth? Steveant (talk) 06:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge

I'm as big a fan as Adam's got, and I think this should be merged with Adam and the Ants--Johnny Spasm (talk) 22:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Cites, please

Well, folks -- one more Wikipedia article full of random statements without cites.
If it's not cited, there is no reason why anyone should believe that it's true.
Per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons:

"We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high quality references. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons ... should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion"

Everything in a biographical article needs to be cited. -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 15:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Appearance

The most striking thing about Adam Ant at the peak of his powers was his appearance, yet the article does not describe his penchant for bizarre makeup and pantomime costumes... can someone with more definite recollections oblige?

The Yowser (talk) 16:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I give up!

I have been here and read this entry on Adam and the Ants a few times in the past and each time I am AMAZED at the silly errors and untrue facts written here. Again and again someone edits and adds something that is incorrect.

There is no mention that Malcolm McClaren led the Ants who made Dirk Wears White Sox off to form Bow Wow Wow, instead we are told that "It was felt that a new direction was needed"! Then we're told that Merrick went back to Dalek I Love You.

BOTH are wrong.

But I'll be damned if I'm going to keep coming back to re-edit and correct. Wiki is a waste of time, the idea that anyone can edit the page is ridiculous when they either don't know what they're talking about or don't even reference where they got their information from. I'm a HUGE long time fan, and though that doesn't mean I am 100% right or an authority on the band, I am pretty sure I know more facts about them and Adam having read TONS about them both throughout the years.

For proper facts about Adam and/or the Ants, go to some of the excellent fansites or the 'official' sites:

http://www.adam-ant.net http://www.thefamilyofnoise.com http://www.musicforafutureage.com

Steveant (talk) 01:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

And where the hell did this come from??

"He eagerly awaits the three o'clock chimes of his Argos carriage clock, as this signals the start of his daily alcoholic ritual."

???

Steveant (talk) 01:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

This is a VERY strange article. Proxy User (talk) 04:40, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Grandfather, Walter Smith

I've removed the statement that Adam Ant's maternal grandfather, Walter Albany Smith, was a heavy drinker since I can find no mention of it in Adam Ant's autobiography. However, Ant does state that both his father and paternal grandfather were alcoholics, so I suspect this is where confusion arose. I've also corrected the statement that Ant threw a brick through the chapel window at primary school - he writes in his autobiography that it was the window of the headmistress's office. Jammycaketin (talk) 19:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Goody Two Shoes did not exist in 1981 in any way, shape or form!!!

Recently I had to delete for a SECOND time a mention of Goody Two Shoes having been recorded (or in this second case demoed) in 1981. A reference was provided for the full paragraph, but there was nothing in that reference to support this specific claim, hence the deletion. I have now found the same claim on the Goody Two Shoes (song) page with no reference whatsoever.

For what it's worth, Goody Two Shoes was written circa Feb/March 1982 after (1) the departure from the band of Gary Tibbs and Terry Lee Miall (although possibly before the decision to go fully solo) and (2) as the first of a new batch of songs to replace the set of songs which Adam and Marco had originally written for the putative next Ants album after Prince Charming and then scrapped (some of which MAY appear among the bonus tracks on the Friend Or Foe remaster, although this has never been confirmed.)

I shall monitor this regularly in future and shall delete any further references to Goody Two Shoes already existing in 1981 at it is just plain not true! (Unless anyone can find a proper reference to support such a claim.)

If you are 63.3.19.1 or any of the other people who have input said faleshood onto this page, please feel free to explain below from where the hell you got the idea of Goody Two Shoes existing in 1981 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.242.18 (talk) 10:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Monster Raving Loony Party Conference 25 September 2010

On 24 Oct 2010, ip address 95.144.246.140 added information about Adam Ant’s performance at the Conference which I think is not true, myself being there. He performed numbers with one young guitarist only, and one number with the band What’s Next. The videos from the event indicate this: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJackSlipper#g/u I have changed the text accordingly.

Acabashi (talk) 14:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Sub-section: Adam Ant is the Blueblack Hussar in 'Marrying the Gunner's Daughter' (2010)

This sub-section is a mess. The text starts with reference to the header and quickly turns into ‘What Ant Did Next’, reading as a fanzine. Editors appear to have tagged stuff onto the bottom without any regard to the header, to encyclopedic style, or Wikipedia guidelines on Conflict of Interest and Neutral Point of View. Subsequent information added to the subject of this sub-section should be split and added under another sub-header. However the problem will still remain: trivia and minutiae updates abound, and have often been taken from promotional web sites and forums, including Ant’s own, with text directly copied and pasted - such copying will at least contravene copyright. If these additions are at all important, and that is doubtful, they should be removed and replaced with précis, and citation to independent third party sources.

One example is the para beginning: On Thursday 21 October Ant performed at the Union Chapel, London. - text begun by IP address 77.102.151.115 on 22 Oct 2010. Subsequently it had two references attached, being a frequently updated forum, thereby for Wikipedia, unviable, and Ant's web site home page: both of these give none of the 'information' implied. I shall attempt a clean-up of this section at some point, but have removed these two eroneous references, (previously 42 and 43), as a start, making the paragraph what it now is, lacking in viable reference and contravening Wikipedia:No original research, which of course is what it was before.

I welcome observations about this section, and the whole article, from experienced Wikipedia editors; ie those those with well-developed active User Pages, not anonymous IP addresses.

Acabashi (talk) 17:17, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, with all due respect, whether you 'welcome' comment from any particular type of commentator or not is frankly neither here nor there.

I agree that the section is a mess, but unfortunately this is reflective of the reality of the situation - i.e. the artist, after several years of mostly inactivity suddenly entering into a mental illness-fuelled (bipolar at hypermanic/full manic phase) period of intense musical activity. In 2007, the Bloomsbury concert was an Event. In 2010, "Events" are hapenning on a weekly - almost daily - purpose. I think it will only be possible to precis this period once it comes to a recognisable end. Adam's sectioning in May/June 2010 did appear to be such an end at the time, but things have carried on. Given that this project has survived such a period of confinement for Ant, it seems highly likely now that it will eventually reach some sort of physical product (ie the album) will emerge sooner or later. Until then, as this chapter of Adam's career continues to take twists and turns, it will probably be impossible to maintain a satisfactory version of this section as more and more increasingly high-profile details will inevitably be added.

Eventually, however, I would propose that once this whole era of Ant's career has come to a recognisable end, the section gets split into three - one part for the initial batch of concerts in Spring 2010, a second for the late 2010 World Tour of London and a third for the album itself next year. Only by that time will it be feasible to sift through the history for significant and insignificant events. The first couple of pub-level guerilla gigs seemed major at the time - then the 30th April gig, the first pre-ticketed and pre-publicised event at a major venue. There have now been several of these and it's still hard to determine which are the significant ones.

There is a school of thought among Antfandom that it is inappropriate to thus document what are essentially symptoms of a extended bout of mental illness. While I have some sympathy with this view, I feel in the light of the aforementioned likelihood of an album emerging, this approach will ultimately prove non viable. Therefore the section has to stay and simple deletion is not an option.

No copyright message exists on adam-ant.net as far as I can see. In its small print, it describes itself not as an Official Site or promotional site but as 'an officially approved site' which just about sums it up - it is a long-running fansite. Family of Noise and Ant Lib (www.adamandtheants.org) are simply out-and-out independent fan sites. As far as I can see, Wikipedia's issue with forums is related simply to material which is inaccessible due to being password-protected - the FoN forum is accessible without password/login so this is not an issue.

I should also like to say that it is a bit cheeky, to say the least, to accuse a section of being 'original research' when you deleted the references, even if possibly with justification.

195.92.109.20 (talk) 15:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the Family Of Noise site, this is due to close on 1 February 2011. I have pre-emptively made archive copies of the two referenced pages which can serve as replacement ref links. 95.144.241.162 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Following on from the above point about Adam-Ant.net not being a promotional or official website, the Union chapel reference has been re-input (at the point up to which it covers all information - the date, location and title of the concert) with a hash to direct the link to the relevant section of the page. I would however acknowledge the need for another reference to cover the remaining details about the gig (musicians, content of gig).

95.144.242.201 (talk) 00:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

One possible longterm solution - once the Hussar album gets a release, it will require a Wikipedia entry of its own. Much of this material can then be moved to the page for the album - perhaps as a "background to release" section. 95.144.247.76 (talk) 00:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we can wait that long, to be quite frank. The album will probably be released in the summer, by that time the section will be far too long winded. The piece surrounding the Black Hussar album needs to be cleaned up now. Leinsatiableone (talk) 12:52, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've split the section into two for the time being. We can revive the Blueblack Hussar section title when the release is more imminent. For what it's worth, current reports say the album should be due in the Spring, not the summer, but time will tell. Both sections can be still be moved to the page for the new album once it becomes tangible enough to need a page of its own.95.144.244.152 (talk) 20:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Great to see all of that split up into appropriate sections. However, it still needs to be cleaned up. It looks ever so long and messy. If you are to edit it all up, the best bet is for you to save everything (beforehand) to a Word document, so when the album page is created you can paste the lot into the "background to release" section. Leinsatiableone (talk) 03:04, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

A further split - two paragraphs of interview material regarding the ...Blueblack Hussar... album and Gun In My Pocket b/w Who's A Goofy Bunny? single have been given their own section - the start of the above-proposed revival of the Blueblack Hussar section title. 95.151.210.35 (talk) 19:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

1996-2001

A short section should also be put in for this period at some point - his second marriage, parenthood, first attempt at own label (Blend), home studio & demos from this period (Call Me Sausage etc, the Blend Demos, America b/w Big Trouble), live appearances (Wannabe, Dweeb, Rachel Stamp) etc. Antbox material could be added/moved here. The biography would be a prime source but there should also be some material on the Internet Wayback Machine. 95.151.210.35 (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I have added a small section detailing what went on in those years. More will be put in when I find more content to reference. Leinsatiableone (talk) 03:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Have done it up. Still needs more references. When I get the time I'll try searching the Internet Wayback Machine for Caroline "Ant Ranger"'s old GeoCities site and old editions of the Ant Lib website which will have useful refs from the period. 95.151.209.111 (talk) 01:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant, thanks for helping 95.151.209.111. I'm going to do my best to bring this article on Adam Ant up to scratch - with you! Leinsatiableone (talk) 03:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo of Adam

It would be greatly appreciated if someone (with the know-how) could please upload an image of Adam Ant at the Q Awards in 2008 (correctly licensed, etc) for the Wiki page. Cheers. Leinsatiableone (talk) 03:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)