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:you are misinterpreting BLP - if you are so "strict", then we should just delete the entire page, as well as many other pages, since they all cite non-academic sources, mostly online, websites. so this looks like an attempt to implement double standards. I removed the two sources, [http://www.plunderguide.com/sarah-shahi/ Sarah Shahi: where have you been?" Plunder Guide, January 9, 2009] and [http://www.kodoom.com/blogs/?p=290 Kodoom, Aahoo Jahansouz, Monday, January 26th, 2009 at 11:36 pm] which are not RS. I left Persian Journal because it is written by a PhD and a real, identifiable person, and Persian Journal has actually multiple contributors, writers, making it reputable enough. Otherwise, we have to remove Huffington Post and a host of great web-only newspapers. The intention of BLP was to disallow blogs, forums and any other medium where any anonymous user can post any non-verified information without any kind of editorial control or scrutiny. Maxim is not like that -- it is a reputable multi-million dollar magazine (as reputable as any entertainment magazine can be). Again, we can't expect any academic and "serious" sources about any young entertainer. If we are to disqualify all the sources I brought, then we should remove all sources from the article, since they are all website-based, I think none of them are from print versions. --[[User:Goldorack|Goldorack]] ([[User talk:Goldorack|talk]]) 19:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC) |
:you are misinterpreting BLP - if you are so "strict", then we should just delete the entire page, as well as many other pages, since they all cite non-academic sources, mostly online, websites. so this looks like an attempt to implement double standards. I removed the two sources, [http://www.plunderguide.com/sarah-shahi/ Sarah Shahi: where have you been?" Plunder Guide, January 9, 2009] and [http://www.kodoom.com/blogs/?p=290 Kodoom, Aahoo Jahansouz, Monday, January 26th, 2009 at 11:36 pm] which are not RS. I left Persian Journal because it is written by a PhD and a real, identifiable person, and Persian Journal has actually multiple contributors, writers, making it reputable enough. Otherwise, we have to remove Huffington Post and a host of great web-only newspapers. The intention of BLP was to disallow blogs, forums and any other medium where any anonymous user can post any non-verified information without any kind of editorial control or scrutiny. Maxim is not like that -- it is a reputable multi-million dollar magazine (as reputable as any entertainment magazine can be). Again, we can't expect any academic and "serious" sources about any young entertainer. If we are to disqualify all the sources I brought, then we should remove all sources from the article, since they are all website-based, I think none of them are from print versions. --[[User:Goldorack|Goldorack]] ([[User talk:Goldorack|talk]]) 19:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC) |
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So her father is Iranian, and her mother is Iranian/Mexican, but somehow she is of Spanish descent? Who's from Spain? |
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Bisexuality
I'm gunshy about actually editing the article to include it, but I did see some credible sources on the internet stating she has some experiences in real life (link), not just on television. Considering they're her own words, I think it's worth inclusion. - 70.107.138.51 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 12:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the link you gave does not seem particularly credible. My problem is that the interview transcription does not distinguish between reality and the fiction of the TV program. It seems just as likely they were sharing a joke. :) Pingku (talk) 14:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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Nothing special about the Qâjâr part
almost 50-60% of Modern Iranians have some Qâjâr ancestry and could also be related to Fat′h Ali Shah Qajar. Sarah Shahi is not an exception. The Qâjârs were known to have several spouses and many children. i know many of those "princesses" and "princes
- 50-60% is a big exaggeration. Nokhodi 06:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Sopranos Spoilers
There is a definite Sopranos S6 spoiler in here. Either remove it or make note of it. (Christopher's death...)
Place of birth?
The intro says she was born in "Grapevine, Texas" while the sidebar on the right side says "Euless, Texas". I've heard Euless, Texas elsewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zybez (talk • contribs) 20:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I tried to verify her place and date of birth using that Family Tree Legends site but could not find Sarah. Maybe she wasn't born in Texas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.24.67 (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Sara Shahi
Let's return to Sarah Shahi. Sarah's father is of an Azerbaijani nationality originated from Iran. Fath Ali Shah Qajar is Sarah father's ancestor. Sarah's mother is half Spanish half Azeri (Iranian Azeri). In this article it is correct to write Iranian in terms of belonging or relating to Iran but if the goal is to specify nationality it will be correct to write Azerbaijani or Azeri in extremis Iranian Azeri. Giovanni Paradise (talk) 08:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)Giovanni
- I have deleted your non-related comment per Wikipedia rule and have reported to you to an admin he knows what to do with these sorts of comments. It is called WP:soapbox although they can easily be responded to, but this is not a forum. Also the sources do not state what you are claiming. As per someone that might have had Qajar ancestry, many people in Iran do, but they are identified based on their city and language today. That is the 20th/21th century definition (centuries we live in) on group identity in Iran. Unless you have an explicit statement supporting your case, then it is WP:OR. Iranian is a nationality meaning citizen of Iran and Azerbaijani has two meanings: ethnicity and citizen of republic of Azerbaijan(which could be Turkic speaking people that were later called Azerbaijanis since late 19th/early 20th century, Talysh, Lezgi, Kurd, Tat,). Unless you have a source for your statement then do not insert it and familiarize with WP:OR and WP:synthesis. Also many Iranians who speak different languages now identify with Qajars and Qajars took many many different wives and there is really a large mixture. So today what differentiates Iranian groups is simply their regional language. Besides in t.v. guide she is called Spanish-Iranian[1]. --Nepaheshgar (talk) 16:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Languages spoken
According to IMDb, she speaks Farsi in addition to English and Spanish, which seems pretty logical, but it isn't mentioned here. Does anyone have any confirmation of this? She does speak some Farsi in an episode of Life, but that doesn't really qualify as proof... 85.68.65.207 (talk) 22:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
WP:BLP
This is the biography of a living person, which means you can not use plunderguide.com, Iranian.ws, or a a Maxim photo caption as a source, the policy clearly states that "zines, websites, webforums, blogs and tweets" can not be used a source on biographies of living persons. --Kurdo777 (talk) 23:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- Maxim is a magazine, so even a photo caption is considered magazine content. Meanwhile, "iranian.ws" is just a host of the Persian Journal, which is an online journal. Hence, at least Maxim is suitable, and arguably, so is Persian Journal, as it's not a personal website or some crappy e-zine, but a regularly published news journal with multiple collumnists. Also, note that I don't have to use any of these sources, and these citations can be removed - but not the information itself, about Ms. Shahi's Azeri ethnic origin. --Goldorack (talk) 18:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- What is Persian Journal? Iranian.ws is just a political website, not a host of a "journal". Maxim's photo captions are not from the magazine's print version, but rather the zine version of magazine with no author. Maxim is not a reliable source anyways, it's a semi-tabloid entertainment magazine. This is a biography of a living person, you need better sources than that to label this person an "Azerbaijani". --Kurdo777 (talk) 19:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- you are misinterpreting BLP - if you are so "strict", then we should just delete the entire page, as well as many other pages, since they all cite non-academic sources, mostly online, websites. so this looks like an attempt to implement double standards. I removed the two sources, Sarah Shahi: where have you been?" Plunder Guide, January 9, 2009 and Kodoom, Aahoo Jahansouz, Monday, January 26th, 2009 at 11:36 pm which are not RS. I left Persian Journal because it is written by a PhD and a real, identifiable person, and Persian Journal has actually multiple contributors, writers, making it reputable enough. Otherwise, we have to remove Huffington Post and a host of great web-only newspapers. The intention of BLP was to disallow blogs, forums and any other medium where any anonymous user can post any non-verified information without any kind of editorial control or scrutiny. Maxim is not like that -- it is a reputable multi-million dollar magazine (as reputable as any entertainment magazine can be). Again, we can't expect any academic and "serious" sources about any young entertainer. If we are to disqualify all the sources I brought, then we should remove all sources from the article, since they are all website-based, I think none of them are from print versions. --Goldorack (talk) 19:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Iranian and Spanish descent?
So her father is Iranian, and her mother is Iranian/Mexican, but somehow she is of Spanish descent? Who's from Spain?
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