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What you were looking for...

... is Redirect. -- Fan-1967 05:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:FA

I've reverted your addition to featured articles. For an article to become an FA, you should first submit it to peer review, and later to Featured Article Candidates. Regards, Sandy (Talk) 16:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Hsr350x.JPG listed for deletion

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If you have any questions please ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Thank you. cohesion 22:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

"Image:Hsr350x.JPG listed for deletion" Response

I personally did not understand how to post these image files. It was interesting. I sort of tried putting up some photoes that must be deleted, It was experimental. However, these images I posted are very famous and thousands of copies of these photos exists, since it was publically pictured from Korean Railway Research Institude. Nevertheless, the recent image I post it up, is HSR 350x.JPG, and this image is my own work and I own this image. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingj123 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

I don't understand images either: I suggest you ask the folks who work on images, since it's Greek to me. Sandy (Talk) 16:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, there seems to be a lot going on with this image, so I'll give you a rundown :) It looks like the original source is here. It was then uploaded to the commons, and deleted for not having a source. It was then uploaded to enwiki (Image:Hsr350x.JPG), and autotagged by the dropdown as a speedy delete candidate because you had specified it was only to be used on wikipedia. (This is not accurate, since as far as I know you don't have permission, but even if you did that is not compatible with GFDL). I noticed this in speedy delete, and left a note on your talk page, but didn't delete it right away. You then changed the license to {{PD-self}}[1], which implies that you created the image and are the copyright holder. You then delinked that image, reuploaded it under another name (Image:HSR 350X.JPG), and removed any evidence that you found it on a korean website, claiming, again, that you were the copyright holder. Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy, our copyright restrictions are sometimes surprising for people, who may have never had to deal with intellectual property before. Basically the images you upload, except in rare circumstances need to be actually created by you. As in you got a camera and took the picture. Also, since you had mentioned some of these were test images, if you ever need to delete your own test image just add {{db-author}} to it and someone will delete it shortly. I will assume good faith with this, but just to let you know, falsifying license information, is kinda bad. I don't want to seem like I'm being mean, and this is kinda long, but if you have any other questions feel free to ask. :) - cohesion 18:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

"Speeedy deletion and Copyrights and Images" two Qustions for Cohesion

DON't GO WAY! PLEASE STAY!

I am very suprised for your response. And, I'm very disappointed about the strictness of the copyright, but I'm still happy. I have two massive questions that you must want to answer:

1. There is no way to choose "copy right tags," for this train image. No copy right tags can match this image (please send it to me, if possible), to receive it and post it in my article. Which means that, I have to physically get to the train station or KRRI museum and take a picture by my self. Is that correct?

2. All of thse images has been publically pictured in/by KRRI museum and has been posted on many major Newspaper companies in Korea last last year. And plus, many other sites adopted this image to post in their own site. These images is like a saturn photo pictured by NASA in Korea. Not even a single image was copied from random sites. IT IS DIRECTLY FROM KOREAN PUBLIC PHOTO SENT FROM KOREAN RAILROAD RESERACH INSTITUDE. However, disappointingly, you are just simply searching in google and claiming that I copied from there as my original source. It is purely public reproductive, photo. Am I correct? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingj123 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

One extra question +1. What is the fastest way to solve my problem?--Kingj123 18:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

If you desire to know more about this image (which will tire me), ask me freely here.

Question 1:I'm not sure what you mean in the first sentence, but yes, if this train still exists you would need to take a picture of it, or see if someone else can do it for you. You might try Wikipedia:Photo Matching Service, which is a new project, although it looks like there is no one in Korea yet. For Question 2, like I said, this is a difficult area for people that have never really had to deal with intellectual property or copyright. Even if an image is public, there is still copyright, and we have to make sure the license is correct and ok. Wikipedia is seen in many countries that have different levels of strictness with copyright, so it may sometimes seem we are being overly strict if your local laws are more relaxed. One part of your question seems to indicate this image didn't come from the internet, although you did supply the source as being a website. Did you get an actual photograph from the institute and scan it? If so you should mention that in the source when you upload files, but the image would still be copyrighted by the institute, unless they release their images under a different license. The upload page says, "Do not upload images found on websites or on an image search engine. They will be deleted." These messages are accurate and constantly updated to be the most clear to users, but if you have any suggestions about them let me know as well. Question 3: If you see your problem as getting an image of these trains you will probably need to go take one if possible. If that isn't possible, you can email the institute asking for permission to use these images under the GFDL for letters already written see Wikipedia:Boilerplate requests for permission. Hope that helps, but even if you can't get any images for the article it's not the end of the world :D - cohesion 19:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Help This User

Can Anybody can take a private photo of HSR-350x and upload in Wikipedia?

Recent Statues: Emailing KRRI for permission... yet no returns.

Trains

Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains looks like a project you might like, they can probably help a lot too with images, and how they usually get them etc. :) - cohesion 22:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou --Kingj123 23:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

FAC

James, I see you've tried to add Korean G-7 to WP:FAC again; the nomination is not set up correctly, and will likely be deleted by someone. The article isn't quite ready for WP:FA, and it typically takes many months to bring an article to featured status. You might consider Cohesion's suggestion to join the Trains project, or the Korean Wikiproject. To prepare for WP:FAC, I suggest you first submit the article to peer review, then consider good article, before looking at WP:WIAFA. Regards, Sandy (Talk) 23:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Here are some sample articles you can look at for guidance:

· BC Rail · Brihanmumbai Electric Supply and Transport · Cincinnati, Lebanon and Northern Railroad · Indian Railways · Manila Light Rail Transit System · Manila Metro Rail Transit System · Rail transport in India Sandy (Talk) 23:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

":D". I know my article is not there yet... Thank you for your guidance and care. Nevertheless, this article probably will be improved after the opening for this train in 2007 or 2008, because I could take this picture, and also learn and add more imformations, such as ticket price, schedule, passenger per km, history, marketing, accidents (I hope not) and etc.

Kingj123 01:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Korean G-7

Hi there. First off, good job with this article! Second, I noticed you nominated this at the featured article candidates page, but you didn't complete the nomination (you didn't create the subpage for it...see the instructions at the top of WP:FAC). I have since removed it, but you are welcome to renominate it. However, in my opinion, the article does not yet meet the criteria for featured articles. I would recommend you do a peer review first. Happy editing! Gzkn 01:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

":D". I had several of these messages above like this one (or is it? I can't count). I know that my article is not there yet... Thank you for your encouragement.

Kingj123 01:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I've responded to your request both at my talk page and at Dokdo talk page. I noticed that the pic for the Korean G-7 article was under copyright violation, so I drew the pic... if that's okay with you. (Wikimachine 06:33, 23 December 2006 (UTC))

Proofs, as well as some mistakes

Hi, Kingj123.

Please, source any statements you put, and address your proof to support your point.

I think I showed all the "proof" or "source" by linking the corresponding Wikipedia articles of other high-speed trains. Having said it, I have to confess that some of my edit was indeed mistakes. For those misinformation, I stand corrected. Unfortunately, it still doesn't mean South Korea is the 4th country to develop high-speed train independently.

Anyway, just in case you completely missed all those "proof"s I linked, I can list them again here.

If "High-speed rail" means the railway runs above 200 km/h, then:

• For Japan, France, and Germany, I don't think you disagree with me.
• United Kingdom: InterCity 125, one of their High Speed Trains, debuted in 1975. Its maximum speed is 125 mph, or 200 km/h.
• Italy: ETR 450 debuted in 1988. Its maximum speed is 250 km/h.
• Spain: In 1966, Talgo III ran at 200 km/h. [2]
• Sweden: X 2000 debuted in 1990. Its maximum speed 200 km/h.
• Norway: This one was my mistake. Although BM71 debuted in 1998, it's made by ADtranz, German company.
• Switzerland: This one is not correct either. ICN debuted in 2000 but it's a joint development between SBB-CFF-FFS, ADtranz and Alstom. Again, my mistake.
• China: "zh:中華之星列車", or China Star, is developed independently by Chinese, unlike other Chinese high-speeds such as Shanghai Transrapid (from Germany) or 新时速 (from Sweden). It's still in an experimental stage, but so is Korean G-7. It recorded 321.5 km/h in 2003. [3]
• And finally, South Korea developed Korean G-7. Its maximum speed 350 km/h was recorded in 2004.

So now, I have to say "there are 8 countries that have independently developed high-speed trains before 2004", rather than "10".

If "High-speed rail" means the railway runs above 300 km/h, then:

• Again, for Japan, France, and Germany, I don't think you disagree with me.
• Spain:Talgo 350 ran at 300 km/h in 1994. [4]
• Italy: ETR 500 debuted in 1993. Its maximum speed is 300 km/h.
• China: As I "proved" above, China Star recorded 321.5 km/h in 2003.
• And Korean G-7 recorded 350 km/h was recorded in 2004.

Any objections? If you have some "proof" or "source" that says otherwise, you can show them anytime. Kzaral 11:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep. By "China", I meant PRC.

Unfortunately, I do not know China Star's official site by the railway operator (or rather, if there is an official site). Those are some "sort-of-official" sites I find.

• Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive : The constructor of the train's power units.
• CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles : The constructor of the train cars.

I am positive that Chinese developed their own independent HSR, however I am not sure about the date.

Honestly, neither am I. Various sites say something slightly different. This site [5] says it was November 27, 2002, this site [6] says December 13, 2002, and these [7] [8] say it was at the beginning of 2003. Chinese Wikipedia article says it was "於2002年12月" (at December 2002). Well, it seems all of them says somewhere around December 2002. Kzaral 21:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: [edit] Move to HSR-350x

Yes, I think it should be moved to HSR-350x. Not only are there more searches on google (although the difference is not that large, it seems the Korean G7 is not very famous?), I think HSR-350x is a more formal title than "Korean G7". However, I think you should make sure that if somebody searches "Korean G7" on the search bar in Wikipedia, there should be a link to "HSR-350x". And also a bold Korean G7 should be placed in the opening paragraph so readers know that "Korean G7" is another common name.

Make sure you discuss with other editors about the move (I will be there) before you move the article and if you have any other questions feel free to ask me and I'll help to the best I can. =) Good friend100 20:36, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

HSR 350x image

Hi Kingj123! If you have another real-life image that is not a copyright infringement, please go ahead and upload it. I understand that you're afraid of offending me by removing the hand-drawn image, but I'm fine. (Wikimachine 22:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC))

Hi Kingj123! I have objections to the image that you've drawn. I can see that the work is result of your hard efforts to bypass the copyright infringement debate that I carried on with user Robth. However, the debate's over, and that the drawing is not a copyright infringement is already agreed.

But, the fact that you did not reference any image to create your work makes it ineligible for encyclopedic entries from which facts and accuracy are demanded.

When you mentioned searching for an image that would be comparable to those in the high-speed rail article, I totally agreed. My drawing would completely disrupt the pattern. And I'd like to compliment you for your talents in CG. (Wikimachine 06:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

For the time being. Yeah, that's the case. (Wikimachine 07:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

Type "WP:IFD". Then follow the directions. Thank you so much for understanding me. (Wikimachine 07:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

It depends. If your computer-based image was based on several similar images, then it's okay. See User_talk:Robth. (Wikimachine 07:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

Oh, that's definitely fine. Sorry for the misunderstanding. (Wikimachine 07:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

I'm fine with that. (Wikimachine 08:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

Kingj123

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Kingj123, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria.

Please note that your user page is at User:Kingj123 and not Kingj123. For more information, please see WP:USER. Slambo (Speak) 11:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Helpful link

Look here. This tells you how to change your user name properly. I'm not quite sure if you did it right. (Wikimachine 22:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC))

Dokdo.

If my arguments are weak, what should I do?

P.S. It would be greatful if you can tell me why the distances don't matter.

younilha

-2/18/2007 답변에 감사를 하며 천번을 고개숙이옵니다. 이렇게 고마운 답변을 주시다니, 소인이 몸 둘바를 몰라옵니다. 당연히 일본이 독도를 지배하는 것은 천부당 만부당 하옵니다. 허나, 저는 이제 어떻게 필승을 할지 이해를 했써옵니다. 송고하옵니다. 소인은 이제 본부를 받짝 듣게써옵니다. younilha가 드림.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Finally. But I'm still frustrated at the fact that the article can't be improved due to Opp2's presence. (Wikimachine 05:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

Request.

You seem to be good in both Korean and English. Would you like to join the AINW? Orthodoxy 21:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thank you very much for joining the AINW. Orthodoxy 01:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

다시 한번 많은 감사를 드립니다. 님한테 부탁이 하나 있습니다. Wikipedia Association 박스를 어떻게 만드는지 아십니까? 알고 계시면 말씀해 주십시오. 감사합니다. Orthodoxy 18:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the AINW was deleted by the administrators. It took a month to organize and create, but all of it is gone now. But, I still have hope because I can always make it again (and I will very soon). So, until that day! Orthodoxy 02:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Slovenia

Yes, indeed there is proof. For the developed countries article, we use three main criteria to ascertain whether a country is developed:

• It must be classified as a high-income economy by the World Bank
• It must be classified as an advanced economy by the International Monetary Fund
• It must have a HDI above 0.9

For the past two or three years, Slovenia has satisfied the World Bank and HDI requirements, but it was still classified as an emerging economy by the IMF. From yesterday, however, the country finally gained the "advanced economy" classification (because it had joined the Eurozone). See here. Thanks, Ronline ✉ 01:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:DSCN0617.JPG listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:DSCN0617.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. cohesion 00:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Your signature

Hey King123, your sig is fine and dandy. So, you are a "supporter" of the UN? You know, I distrust the UN. It's controlled by the security council - all of which are rich & powerful countries... no voice for the weak. Anyways, I recommend that you re-upload the logo in a much lower resolution (wouldn't hurt that you resize b/c most of the pic is in magnified resolution).

Also, I think that your rebuttal at Dokdo talk page was terrific. (Wikimachine 23:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC))

No, I think it looks good. Never mind, I shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place. (Wikimachine 21:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC))

TfD nomination of Template:Riskofvandalism

Template:Riskofvandalism has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Kusma (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

North-South divide

I noticed that you removed the AfD tag from this article before the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North-South divide was complete. Please do not remove AfD tags from articles. If you wish to add to the debate then feel free to follow the link you will find in the tag to the discussion, as this is the most constructive way to voice your concerns about the future of the article. Arkyan • ^(talk) 21:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no rule that says someone has to bring it up on a talk page prior to nominating an article for deletion. It might be nice of them to do so, but they don't have to. As far as why you shouldn't take it down, it's because once the article has been nominated it will appear on the articles for deletion page, and if you remove the tag then people who visit the article won't realize it is on the deletion page and won't have a chance to go to the discussion and add their comments. If you read the text in the tag carefully (the tag can be found at {{afd}}) it specifically states not to remove the tag until the discussion is completed, so that all parties have a chance to participate. It's not a big deal right now, just for future reference, when you come across an AfD tag, don't remove it, but follow the link to the discussion! Arkyan • ^(talk) 22:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It's ok, and you're welcome. It's just that a lot of people have this negative viewpiont of what article tagging is all about - it's not meant to point fingers or denigrate the article, but rather, it's to call attention to percieved deficiencies in an article and alert other editors as to what they can do to help an article improve. With the rare exception of something like a speedy deletion tag, the ultimate goal of tagging an article is to get the attention of other editors in hopes of making it better :) Arkyan • ^(talk) 19:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Administration in Dokdo

Please read up on the template; it is for how each country respectively administers the country. Right in the introduction to the article, it is described how it is part of that prefecture in Japan, so this is sourced information. --Cheers, Komdori 20:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

In response to what you said on my talk page, yes it is different from claim. However, Japan has administrative offices set up explicitly for the administration of this island. In addition, many have it registered as their home town. If you don't like how it's displayed in the template, then request how to change the template. This is per the usage instructions. --Cheers, Komdori 20:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It is indeed internationally recognized (check out the wealth of articles about it in newspapers alone). The US does not recognize Korean soverignty. As for reverting--this has been discussed and agreed upon on the talk page. I won't instigate reverts at this moment, but I will participate in enforcing the consensus or coming up with a compromise. --Cheers, Komdori 20:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

This article clearly says that the US does not recognize either claim. If you need news articles describing it, search on google for "dokdo takeshima dispute" and you will find thousands. --Cheers, Komdori 20:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant. It clearly states US policy toward the whole situation where it says, "U.S. policy on the Dokdo/Takeshima Island issue has been and continues to be that the United States does not take a position on either Korea's claim or Japan's claim to the island." Therefore, the U.S. does not take a side on who is the legitimate administrator. In other words, the dispute is recognized internationally (at least by the U.S.). Both sides are clearly administering the island according to the own claim, and neither claim is internationally recognized solely as legitimate. --Cheers, Komdori 20:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Komdori, don't make up things. Simply because Japan considers Dokdo as a part of its prefectures and monitors the island doesn't mean it is administered. "Administered" is supposed to mean which country occupies and controls it. Don't try to introduce that Japan also administers Dokdo because your wrong. If South Korea administers the Aleutian islands by monitering it and patrolling near it, does it mean South Korea administers the Aleutian islands? You are being literal in your argument and it doesn't make any sense. Good friend100 20:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Response on your talk page good friend. --Cheers, Komdori 20:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It's an interesting point that you bring up about claim vs. administer, Kingj. Surely, though, administer is stronger than claim. In other words, if you do not have a recognized claim to a place, you cannot have a recognized administration. No one will be able to recognize your administration without implicitly recognizing your claim. By not recognizing Korea's claim, the US also does not recognize it as sole administrator.

I'd like to say as a side note, though, that this is not about who is administering it, but how it is being administered. In other words, the administer links are supposed to be about the "greater area" that the country has, so we need these links in order to be able to click them in one easy-to-find place. The validity of who it is doesn't matter. In other words, someone might like to know about how the area is considered in Japan, so they should be able to click the links. It is the same for Korea. --Cheers, Komdori 21:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It's a good point--until recently it said administered by both, rather than administered by one. This was removed unilaterally and should be replaced so it describes the alternate administrations consistently; I'll get the information together for supporting the change back to the consensus version. --Cheers, Komdori 21:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Compromise

If we could alter the template so it said "Claimants" rather than "Administration," would you support that change? That way both information could be included. If you think that "administration" is too strong, but you support "claim," then that way a reader could see both. What do you think? --Cheers, Komdori 21:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Comment on Good Friend's Page

I was sorry to see your comment on Good Friend's page.

After discussing with Wikimachine, I'll try to take the initiative toward working toward some more positive changes on Korean articles. I had originally thought that other Koreans might rather have a fellow Korean help get them acceptable (for example, removing bad photos, and so on).

   My wife does call me Komdori, it's just a pet name. If it was not unique I could not use it as my Wikipedia name. I will not tell you my nickname for her, although it is also a Korean word *smile*. Try to assume good faith. If I was a Japanese person I would not care about Goguryeo, for example or other issues like this. --Cheers, Komdori 22:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

It's really hard to say. Just participate in the talk for Dokdo more, will ya? I'm doing most of the work, but I can't keep this up b/c I got grounded. (Wikimachine 01:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC))

Those islands

Thanks for the comment. You are welcome to do a Liancourt Rocks search yourself. My argument is that it is not necessary. My choice of Liancourt is based on its use in Encyclopedias, books and media as required by Wikipedia naming convention of geographical entities. Since this is the only one actually used (as opposed to attesting to the names used in Korea and Japan) regularly, Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Widely_accepted_name Wikipedia naming convention doesn't require the use of Google which is often flawed anyway.

Thanks.Macgruder 18:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Dokdo and Komdori

I've had runins with Komdori and have caught him lying and making ridiculous and unreasonable pro-japanese edits. This guy is clearly pretending to be Korean in my opinion. Don't let him take you for a ride. I also saw your comment in Dokdo talk page and agree with you. I personally think Macgruder's google searches are POV and not helpful.melonbarmonster 19:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure if he's Korean. But I'll say this. Whatever Komdori, Macgruder, Parecboy, etc. do to make themselves look all official, rule-knowing, NPOV, they are all vicious JPOV editors. They first incriminate their opposing editors as POV, while making POV arguments themselves. And they constantly repeat and emphasize certain things, such as "Dokdo & Takeshima has a tie" even when it clearly doesn't. They rarely discuss the internal dynamics of the discussions... Now, from an outsider's view, if the discussion's full of them stating that Dokdo & Takeshima are tied, or Liancourt Rocks has the largest Google hits, what are they going to think? It's not like we can ask them to provide link to their assertions everytime. And they give these really terrible results that whenever you criticize they give really stupid reasons for using those stupid methods. (Wikimachine 19:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC))

North Korea

It's great that you're able to update economic statistics. Just make sure that when you do, you include your data source, too. In the case of your last edit to North Korea, you failed to do that, so I restored the original, supported, figure. Rklawton 04:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Visa Waiver Program

There are twelve future countries in the program, but when I counted the countries you've added to the map (in light blue) - I found out eleven only. How come? 84.228.170.249 09:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to add Israel. I will fix it. --Kingj123 01:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Visa Waiver Map

The map still requires some editing to reflect several overseas departments/territories of some countries that are an integral part (incorporated territory).

For the U.S.: Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, and the Northern Mariana Islands need to be dark blue since the residents of those territories as U.S. citizens. The U.S. controls immigration and customs for them.

In the Americas: French Guiana, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, St. Maarten/St. Martin, St. Barthelemy, Guadeloupe, Martinique, St. Eustatius, Saba all are overseas departments of France and the Netherlands respectively. The residents of these islands hold normal French and Dutch passports and unlike British Overseas Territories are treated as equal citizens.

Africa: Ceuta, Melilla and Reunion should be colored. Their residents are Spanish and French citizens and they hold national passports.

Oceania: Tahiti, New Caledonia and all French territories should be colored. Their residents hold French passports.

E-mail me if you have any questions. Many thanks! --XLR8TION 14:16, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• • I also forgot to add Greenland. It is part of Denmark and their citizens do possess Danish passports. —Preceding unsigned comment added by XLR8TION (talk • contribs) 17:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• • Can u please add as a future VWP participants the Philippines and Thailand since Thailand is issuing biometric passports and the Philippines is issuing Machine-readable passports Rizalninoynapoleon 04:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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Liancourt rocks

was there a reason that you changed the order of Japan and Korea in the Liancourt rocks article?Sennen goroshi 16:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I come here to ask you a favor regarding Dokdo. As the result of a discussion with LactoseTI on the Dokdo talk page, most of images in the gallery are now in danger to be removed from English Wiki within one week. I didn't notice that even the Japanese maps are the evidences to prove Koreans' claim. He obviously intents to remove them fro Japan's sake. However, rule is rule, so confirmed website and relevant descriptions are required to prevent from such the deletions after LactoseT1 tagged on them. But I couldn't find suitable websites yet. Here are a list of the tagged images.

• Image:Tongkuk chido.jpg
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And I could not find especially Dongguk jido' made by Jeong Sang-gi (정상기의 동국지도) during the reign of King Yeongjo (영조) over the internet. However, Kyujanggak has wonderful images of the map and others, but I can't access to the Kyujanggak website due to my wonderful buddy, Mac.-_- Only PC users can properly see and download its pop-up pages. If you can upload or link the source pages, it will be very helpful. Thanks. --Appletrees 01:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I will try my best.--Kingj123 02:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Interesting map, but is there any particular reason why the Canary Islands are included in the "South"? AnonMoos (talk) 11:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

straw poll regarding flag...

...at the bottom of Talk:Occupation of Japan. Thanks! Ling.Nut (talk) 15:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

use of the Hinomaru on Occupation of Japan

Hi Kingj123, I know you feel strongly that the Hinomaru flag of Japan should not be used in the article Occupation of Japan. However, the poll has been up for days and stands at 6-to-1 in favor of the Hinomaru. I'm calling that a supermajority. This decision refelects WP:CONSENSUS. It also refelects de facto usage... Since we have both WP:CONSENSUS and Verifiability, I hope you'll accept this decision without need for further debate. I look forward to working with you on Wikipedia on other topics and matters. Thanks! Ling.Nut (talk) 04:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC) You welcome.Kingj123 (talk) 13:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Developed Country

Hello

The chapter about FTSE in the Article Developed Country must follow the current FTSE lists, which put South Korea and Taiwan in the "Advanced Emerging" country list, with a remark at the bottom of page 1: "Possible change to Developed from Advanced Emerging". The word "possible" doesn't mean this change has already taken place. Eliko (talk) 09:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The heading of the newest report is: "September 2007 update"!

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Hi, Kingj123, I just come to inform you that you have been exposed to 2channel, Japanese famous bulletin board. Unfortunately, many Japanese editors seem to have abused Wikipedia with the threads for a long time (over 4 years!) The extreme example is shown at the Talk:Sea of Japan. The discussion set up three days ago, but I let you know of this now.

I translated some of information, but the threads are too many, so if you have a time to look at it, please visit the links listed there. I also add the diff in case you come to the page much later. If it is archived, you would find it in No. 380 or 381. Or use Special:Whatlinkshere Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 02:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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I have seen the talk page--in fact, I showed you a link to it. This map was already discussed, and everyone agreed not to use it. Please actually read the discussion. rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

You posted that message to the talk page 10 minutes after telling me to "see the talk page". Do the math. rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:40, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

How am I "new"? I commented on the last two versions of the discussion. rʨanaɢ (talk) 04:45, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Picture

Hi, your self-made image for the Korea Exchange contains a spelling error. I don't know if it was intentional, but I believe "Exhange" should be "Exchange". --71.147.56.94 (talk) 04:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

See Talk:South_Korea#Map. rʨanaɢ (talk) 05:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to log in. I admit 99.235.243.75 is my ip address. but i have no other accounts.

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I have no connection whatsoever with Sourside21, this is a mere attempt to stop my account from edit warring. Please check his or her IP address, it will not match. Only reason why we were reverting it at approximately the same time is because Rjanag has made a sudden change in the article regarding the map without discussing it on Talk Page. I have contributed heavily in South Korea article, and participated in debates regarding the country map. Kingj123 (talk) 14:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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First of all, I did discuss it at the talk page; if you read Talk:South_Korea#Map, which I already showed you, you would remember that this discussion has happened at the talk page three times (two of which you participated in, so you really should remember), and the consensus was always against having it. I don't know why you continue insisting that I haven't discussed things.

Secondly, are you saying that you were edit warring? (Indeed, you were, although that is not the reason I blocked your account.) rʨanaɢ (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

You were edit warring and I was preserving the way it was, so it is inevitable. Anyways, THERE WERE NO CONSENSUS, how is it a consensus where there are oppositions. We must do an official straw poll where users either support or decline and go with the majority. You blocked my account, so please unblock it asap so that we can get this going. Kingj123 (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

You are misunderstanding what consensus means; just because you (and a bunch of IP addresses operated by the same person) disagreed doesn't mean there wasn't consensus among other editors.

As for the block, I have re-reviewed the behavioral evidence and, while it is suspicious, I don't think it's definitive enough to conclude that you are the same person as Sourside. I am willing to unblock if I have your assurance that 1) you will participate in discussion at the talk page and will not continue edit-warring; 2) you have read and understood the Wikipedia policies in question (WP:Consensus and WP:Edit warring, as well as WP:DR); and 3) you will not continue to use multiple accounts or to log out of your account to edit war. (If later on further evidence does come up to show convincingly that you are Sourside, though, it goes without saying that you will be blocked indefinitely.) rʨanaɢ (talk) 15:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree to all three you have said and I have not done anything with regards to sock puppet. But I highly suggest that you look for an opinion poll. Kingj123 (talk) 16:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)