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:The Act (8&9 Vic. cap. clxxxiv) did state "constructed and completed in all respects to the satisfaction of the engineer ... of the Great Western Railway Company", ie Brunel, and "formed of such a gauge ... as will admit of the same being worked continuously with the said Great Western Railway". It seems that there was to be mixed gauge on the line north of Abbot's Wood, where a connection to the [[Birmingham and Gloucester Railway]] was to be made. The disputes between the GWR and the [[Grand Junction Railway]], which was to connect at the northern end, were quite fierce, with the OWW caught in the middle. Both Jenkins & Quayle and MacDermot make much of both the disputes and of the financial situation at the time; it seems that on 21 February 1851, the OWW (represented by [[Samuel Morton Peto]] and John Parson) came to an agreement with the Midland Railway (successor to the Birmingham & Gloucester) and the LNWR (successor to the Grand Junction) that these two would work the OWW for 21 years; to permit such trains running through to Oxford, the OWW would have to lay standard-gauge rails. This being in breach of the Act, the GWR objected, and the OWW laid mixed-gauge rails throughout - and only ever ran one broad-gauge train, the Board of Trade Inspector's special on 2 June 1853, two days prior to opening of the section between Wolvercot and Oxford. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:04, 11 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Cotswold Line was nominated as a good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 19, 2007). There are suggestions below for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
Line or railway
In common with many articles with the suffix Line this article seems to think that it is synonymous with railway. The term Line is one used by the railway marketing people to sell the services running over particular routes. The railway lines (NB small 'l'!) over which the present-day Cotswold Line trains run were: Oxford-Worcester, part of the Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (first Act of Parliament 1845); which took over the (Worcester and Hereford Railway, to become the West Midlands Railway in 1860). Latter amalgamated with the GWR in 1863. Peter Shearan 08:54, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Mea culpa! The first part of my comment above still holds good, but I hadn't read lower down the article which shows exactly what I have said above. Nevertheless, I have amended very slightly the opening statement: it isn't a railway! Peter Shearan 09:00, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Wolvercot Junction or Wolvercote Junction
Wolvercot seems to be the traditional railway spelling and it is still in use as in the SRA Strategic Plan 2003 (pdf). --Cavrdg 2 July 2005 21:23 (UTC)
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Inaccurate statement
From the lead: "The Cotswold Line is an 86.5 mile long railway line running from Oxford to Worcester". No it isn't: that's the distance to Hereford. The distance to Worcester is 57-58 miles, depending on which Worcester station you mean. 81.158.1.233 (talk) 00:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Mickleton Halt
The "Mickleton" link on the route map is pointing to Mickleton Station on the Tees Valley Railway. It would be better if it pointed to Mickleton Halt railway station, although that page does not yet exist. Is there anyone who understands how the stnlnk parameter works and can fix this?Bruern Crossing (talk) 06:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Well spotted. Have changed Mickleton to Mickleton Halt. Lame Name (talk) 07:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Mickleton Halt link
Created a stub for Mickleton Halt railway station but the link from this page, although working, still shows as page does not exist. Unable to figure what needs tweaking to rectify. Lame Name (talk) 09:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Delay made the gauge narrower?
Some of the text is "The Act required the line to be built to Brunel's broad gauge [...] in but delays, disputes and increasing costs led to its being completed as standard gauge."
I suppose I see what is meant, but it seems a bit odd. Shall I change it?
Afterbrunel (talk) 19:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- The Act (8&9 Vic. cap. clxxxiv) did state "constructed and completed in all respects to the satisfaction of the engineer ... of the Great Western Railway Company", ie Brunel, and "formed of such a gauge ... as will admit of the same being worked continuously with the said Great Western Railway". It seems that there was to be mixed gauge on the line north of Abbot's Wood, where a connection to the Birmingham and Gloucester Railway was to be made. The disputes between the GWR and the Grand Junction Railway, which was to connect at the northern end, were quite fierce, with the OWW caught in the middle. Both Jenkins & Quayle and MacDermot make much of both the disputes and of the financial situation at the time; it seems that on 21 February 1851, the OWW (represented by Samuel Morton Peto and John Parson) came to an agreement with the Midland Railway (successor to the Birmingham & Gloucester) and the LNWR (successor to the Grand Junction) that these two would work the OWW for 21 years; to permit such trains running through to Oxford, the OWW would have to lay standard-gauge rails. This being in breach of the Act, the GWR objected, and the OWW laid mixed-gauge rails throughout - and only ever ran one broad-gauge train, the Board of Trade Inspector's special on 2 June 1853, two days prior to opening of the section between Wolvercot and Oxford. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2011 (UTC)