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Point that could use correcting

The article, while very slightly helpful right now, really needs the actual derivation of the energy levels. I cannot, for the life of me, find this anywhere. I'm going to go try ashcroft and mermin, but otherwise I'm stuck :(

Point that could use clarification

I'm under the impression that there's some relationship between this article and the article Linear combination of atomic orbitals. But neither article explains that relationship. Could someone add that information if they know it? Or, if appropriate, merge the two articles? --Steve (talk) 03:36, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm learning about this right now, I'll reword this article when I understand this model better. There are some blatent mistakes where they make it sound like the wavefunctions and the atomic orbitals are the same thing. I'll rewrite some of this later.Bridger.anderson (talk) 20:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Atomic orbitals are valid wavefunctions. If two atoms are nearby, their respective orbitals will noticeably deviate from orthogonality. Still, an electron wavefunction can definitely coincide with an atomic orbital. Yes, I know you mentioned this almost two years ago. -- Luke Somers, 19 December, 2010

This article is a mess

Besides poor organization, bad grammar, and failure to define notation, this entire article is a mess. As one example, the statement is made that this approach is an approximation to the Hamiltonian, while in fact it is only an approximation to the wavefunction. Brews ohare (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It might be added that the viewpoint of this article, that the tight-binding wavefunction is to be seen as an approximate implementation of Wannier functions, is overly restrictive, because, like the LCAO method, the tight-binding method is not restricted to periodic lattices, while Wannier functions are so restricted. Brews ohare (talk) 15:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen people teach tight-binding as an finding approximate solutions to the true Hamiltonian, and I've seen people teach it as approximating the Hamiltonian and then writing down its exact solutions. Either presentation can be correct, it's a rather meaningless distinction anyway. --Steve (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Sbyrnes321. Form the first principle calculation point of view, tight binding method means to expand the single particle Hamiltonian in the Wannier function basis. But in condensed matter physics, tight binding model means to approximate the kinetic energy term in the Hamiltonian by hopping terms that transfer electron from site to site. In this sense, tight binding approximation can be understood as an approximation of Hamiltonian indeed.Everett (talk) 21:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tone of history

It may be accurate, but the statement that the 1950s paper is the 'absolute climax of the history of the tight binding model' seems to me to violate the neutral tone guideline. -- Luke Somers, 19 December, 2010

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 :I've seen people teach tight-binding as an finding approximate solutions to the true Hamiltonian, and I've seen people teach it as approximating the Hamiltonian and then writing down its exact solutions. Either presentation can be correct, it's a rather meaningless distinction anyway. --[[User:Sbyrnes321|Steve]] ([[User talk:Sbyrnes321|talk]]) 18:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
+::I agree with Sbyrnes321. Form the first principle calculation point of view, tight binding method means to expand the single particle Hamiltonian in the Wannier function basis. But in condensed matter physics, tight binding model means to approximate the kinetic energy term in the Hamiltonian by hopping terms that transfer electron from site to site. In this sense, tight binding approximation can be understood as an approximation of Hamiltonian indeed.[[User:EverettYou|Everett]] ([[User talk:EverettYou|talk]]) 21:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 == Tone of history ==