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To the most helpful, prolific and competent wikipedian I've met during my two years in the project. Presented by Ghirla ^-трёп- 17:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

		The Epic Barnstar
		For tireless vandalism reverts and all-around improvements to classical-themed articles, I hereby award Wetman the epic barnstar Erik the Red 2 (AVE·CAESAR) 01:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

		The 100 DYK Medal for Wetman
		Thanks for your first hundred. Keep up the good work. With 50K plus edits then we need a few more for DYK, however we have over 100 articles so far. Thanks again Victuallers (talk) 21:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Online Ambassadors

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your confidence inspires me. I've now applied.--Wetman (talk) 21:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very good, we are reviewing the application now Sadads (talk) 00:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Baiae

Am I missing something? I was pretty sure this is a copyright violation. Nev1 (talk) 12:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My error. I hadn't detected the copyright violation.-Wetman (talk) 04:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Burlesque (genre)

Hi. I see that you were the original person who created the article on Victorian theatrical burlesque [Burlesque (genre)], as distinguished from modern striptease burlesque. I see that someone has now merged the Burlesque (genre) article into Burlesque. See this. I missed that there had been a merge proposal, but I disagree with this merge. Here is what Burlesque (genre) looked like before the merge. Would you kindly look into this and comment here? Thanks for taking a look and commenting either way. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the combined article drops no text or illustrations and incorporates added text examining the extension of "burlesque" to include its modern connotations, that would be a genuinely encyclopedic treatment.--Wetman (talk) 04:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 28 January 2011

The newsletter of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program – Volume 1, 28 January 2011

This is the first issue of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program newsletter. Please read it! It has important information about the the current wave of classes, instructions and advice, and other news about the ambassador program.

Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 00:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC) [reply]

DYK nomination of Il Guerrin Meschino

Hello! Your submission of Il Guerrin Meschino at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Schwede66 04:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought they were being a little childish about what "reviewing" is, but I have left a further note about the hook, which doesn't appear to be cited. You may like to look at it and comment. Moonraker2 (talk) 05:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Humanist minuscule

Happy to oblige (and to have an excuse to dig out my calligraphy books). - PKM (talk) 04:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Il Guerrin Meschino

On 6 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Il Guerrin Meschino, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... about Il Guerrin Meschino ("Wretched Guerrin"), an Italian prose romance with elements of fable, written by the Tuscan trovatore Andrea da Barberino about 1410? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Karkadann

Almost exactly five years ago you commented on the lamentable state of this article. Good things come to those who wait! Drmies (talk) 20:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bravo, Drmies! Worth the wait. Wikipedia's quality has risen far in the last five years.--Wetman (talk) 20:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks in no small part to you. I should throw a barnstar your way, but it would get last between all those DYK medals. Hey, I'm actually catching up with you! (That is, I can see your taillight way up ahead.) Thanks for the compliment, and keep the quality articles coming. Drmies (talk) 20:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Article

Hello! Your submission of Olea oleaster at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 04:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC) Drmies (talk) 04:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Egyptian temple

I'm glad you like the article. As for why the article wasn't created until now—well, most of the ancient Egypt section is crummy. A few years ago, before I joined the wikiproject, a few people did excellent work on Ancient Egypt and some of the New Kingdom pharaohs, but those people seem to be busy with real life now. Even when they were highly active here, they didn't work much in the area of religion. Ancient Egyptian religion is my primary interest on Wikipedia, and the absence of a temple article was the most glaring deficiency, so as soon as I could put together a decent article, I did. A. Parrot (talk) 07:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it sets a standard.--Wetman (talk) 07:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's a really fine article. Johnbod (talk) 11:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Il Guerrin Meschino

I had a go at it. I have found a limited online text of Cursietti's edition here. Moonraker2 (talk) 10:36, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't open it. Thanks .--Wetman (talk) 10:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All Saints Church, Little Wenham

Thanks for your comment on the DYK suggestions page. I too thought that it was Grade II* listed until I looked more carefully at the Heritage gateway page. At the top it says "Grade II*", and a little lower it says "GVII*". But still lower it says "The entry shall be amended to read:-" and lower again "GVI". In addition Grade I listed buildings in Babergh (where it uses its alternative dedication (maybe incorrectly) to St Lawrence) includes it as Grade I listed. I decided that the evidence is in favour of its grading having been raised from Grade II* to Grade I and have reverted your edit. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That should be good enough for me, but the reference you've given, at the Wikipedia-originated list of Grade I listed buildings in Babergh, also gives Grade II* for this church; the list is as of 2001: here it is. Perhaps the change in listing is relevant to the article. Let me copy this to Talk:All Saints Church, Little Wenham#Listing. --Wetman (talk) 11:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know; it's based on the Images of England site, as you say, which was created as of 2001 and has not been (and will not be) updated. Which is why I and other editors writing on heritage in England use the Heritage Gateway site, which does seem to be updated. The problem with including the upgrading in the article is that I do not have a good-enough reference to confirm this; I have just made a conclusion from what I take to be a reliable source. (also copied) --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's surely good enough, I agree.--Wetman (talk) 11:50, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Olea oleaster

On 11 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Olea oleaster, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the sacred wild-olive Olea oleaster of Olympia, not the cultivated olive, was used for the olive wreaths that crowned ancient Olympic winners? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 00:04, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Humanist minuscule

On 11 February 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Humanist minuscule, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that humanist minuscule handwriting, invented in the fifteenth century in Italy, was based on Carolingian minuscule, which Renaissance humanists took to be ancient Roman? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 06:03, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 13 February 2011

The newsletter of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program – Volume 1, 28 January 2011

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Nomination of Bulfinch's Mythology for deletion

The article Bulfinch's Mythology is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulfinch's Mythology until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice reference for the Sirens v Muses myth

That was an excellent reference that you found for the Sirens v Muses. I've copied it to the two Lefkai islands -> Souda (island) and Leon (Souda Bay) and to Crete. It looks like they conjured up the myth during the first Byzantine period in Crete to name Aptera and the islands. But why did they think it was necessary to conjure up myths for these islands? (maybe it just made it easier to remember all the names). They did the same for the Agioi Theodoroi (islands) just north of Platania, Crete (a pair of islands that they claim were formed when a monster and its baby approached Crete - they were fended off by the local population). Then Dia (island) (pronounced Ntia by the local population) has the shape of a giant lizard when viewed from Knossos, so they came up with the story that a giant lizard was approaching Crete, and Zeus struck it with lightening whereupon it turned to stone and became the island of Ntia). At least the Muses v Sirens story is original (it's not giant monsters approaching the island). Is it possible that the reference that you found for the Sirens is the primary source? They also claim that the Paximadia islands were the birthplace of Apollo and Artemis probably because Leto was worshipped in Phaistos. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 05:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's a nice one: who is that Walter Copland Perry, who was writing so sensibly on the Sirens? I'm reading that there was a so-called Mouseion at Aptera and if that's so, I surmise that the seaside site as a competing ground for Muses and Sirens was quite an old idea. My Googletease peek at Maurizio Bettini and Luigi Spina, Il mito delle sirene: immagini e racconti dalla Grecia a oggi (2007) tells me La gara si era svolta nel cosiddetto mouseion, poco distante sia dalla città sia dal mare, un luogo dedicato... That is, the contest took place at the so-called mouseion near the village and the sea. I know nothing of this "so-called" Mouseion at Aptera, which, I see now, is mentioned without details in an article "Bilder aus Kreta" ("Pictures from Crete"), in Unsere zeit: Deutsche revue des Gegenwart 10.2 (1874:59). Btw, I doubt that Aptera has any actual etymological connection with feathers or wings, however; etymologies were just witty playthings for Greeks and Romans.--Wetman (talk) 06:11, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've never visited Aptera although I've driven past it. Maybe on another holiday. Just rethinking that the myth must have been generated before the Byzantine Empire because the Byzantine Empire was in to christianity and not pagan gods. If it were only possible to wind back the clock and see how it all happened instead of reading it in books. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 00:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about Byzantium, though myth had an elaborate literary life after the old religion was no longer felt, was even driven underground: see Dionysiaca. The essential mytheme of the Aptera story is: "Muses challenged by Sirens: Muses 1 Sirens 0". This nugget of myth suggests that at some distant pre-Classical time, a place holy to the Sirens was taken over as a place now holy to the Muses, a Museion, and the Sirens became disfigured, as creatures of terror now, not awe. Were their images cast into the sea? Before the seventh century BCE, but how long before?--Wetman (talk) 00:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That makes a lot of sense. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 01:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Niblo's Garden

Hello!

While acknowledging your wiki-experience and authority, I was sorry to see that you deleted the reference to Niblo's Garden (the 'low-brow' entertainment hall in the Bronx).

Although appreciating the arts, my research (non-wikipedic) of the Bronx hall has nothing to do with the Opera House, and others pursuing a similar line now have no reference or disambiguation. That was why I included the information about the latter Niblo's Garden in the wikipedia article. Obscure or not today, the Bronx "Niblo's" was an established entertainment venue in its own right, in its own time.

I'll not interfere with your editing, but I believe the reference was valid for those who may be searching for information on the latter location, who now will only find it under the Lyceum entry, and likely only then by accident or persistant searching.

Kind regards,

Larry Hoefling (mchuston) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mchuston (talk • contribs) 18:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]