Talk:John Galliano

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I've done my best to make this slightly less sycophantic and cloying. It's still not clean and does not cite any sources. So if anyone can improve, that'd be great. The previous mess of toadying fashion quotes and adverts was appalling. --Brideshead 23:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Have added citation needed tag to the claim that he was born in Gibraltar to Spanish parents... note that Galliano is a common name in Gibraltar, but not Spain. Also, changed birthplace from "Gibraltar, Spain" to just "Gibraltar". Gibraltar is not in Spain, and it's hard to think of how he could have been born in two different countries. 87.127.73.65 19:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Only one of John Galliano's parents is Spanish his mother Ana Guillen Rueda who was born in La Linea which is the Spanish town that sits next to Gibraltar on the border. I know this because I am his 4th cousin and the family genealogist.

Through his father also John, John's Gibraltarian ancestry predates the arrival of the British on the Rock. On the Galliano side the earliest record I have is of his grandfather Alejandro Gallino who was born in Gibraltar in 1897, through his Grandmother Matilde Bosano, John is descended from the very earliest Genoese settlers on the Rock including two of the three earliest mentioned families the Berros and the Sturlas.

It was quite common through the 19th century and part of the 20th century for Gibraltarian men to marry Spanish women from across the border, owing to the small population of Gibraltar. In having a mother of Spanish origin John is far from unusual. Any offspring from such marriages would always be described as Gibraltarians.

Hope this helps. EddieLu 16:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Interesting ancestry but the name also bears resemblance to the Greek Alexandros Gallanos, or the greek word for peaceful - gallini, coincidence? I have read historical documentation that Greeks founded cities in Spain eg., Emborio, (pronounced and spelt emporio in Italian) and another one that I can't think of at the moment.Get back to you on this.115.131.10.148 (talk) 06:25, 14 June 2010 (UTC) I'm back with some very interesting history i.e., Straights of Gibralatar was founded as the Pillars of Hercules so I give you the following as a guide from a site called "Hellenic Travels to the Past."

A few years ago I made it to Barcelona. During the course of site seeing I came across the ruins of “Teatre Grec” (Greek theatre). To say I was astonished would be an understatement. To say that I am Greek “blind” is also an understatement – a rare condition that disrupts a person’s vision so that they only see Greek things.

The site was closed but I remonstrated with the security guard. “My ancestors built that theatre – I demand to see it!!” This was my childish yet desperate attempt to see the site up close. The security guard was either amused or felt that there would be no harm in a deranged tourist from seeing the site. So I took some pictures and went on my merry way to the local tapas place in search of an elusive Greek salad. When I made it home to Australia I researched the old Greek theatre of Barcelona. Well lets just say it was old but not ancient. It was built in 1929 in a Greek style, hence the name. As for the so-called ruins I came across – it was in renovation phase. Despite my disappointment at not finding an ancient site in Barcelona it did however get me thinking (which can also be a rare phenomenon). Had there ever been a Greek presence in places such as Spain and Western Europe? I know for a fact that Hercules had been there. In previous articles I have talked about the Greeks that I met in Southern Italy – Magna Gracia. Now to find out what lies to the west of Magna Graecia. There were a number of Greek colonies and settlements in Spain, France, Monaco and Portugal (this last country consisted of a few traders and a visit by Hercules and me). The Greeks did not dominate these regions as they did in Magna Gracia or in the Cyrenaica in Libya for example, they did however have a lasting influence. One of the first Greeks to make it to the edge of the Mediterranean was a powerful and heroic man, and I’m not talking about me here. It was the great Hercules who built the Pillars of Hercules on either side of the Gibraltar straits to signify the supposed geographical limit of the known world. Herodotus tells us that another Greek, Captain Kolaios of Samos and his crew mistakenly sailed past the Pillars of Hercules and landed in the region of Tartessos in southern Spain (near Portugal) in the 7th century BC. The Greeks exchanged goods and whilst working on their tans made a strong friendship with the king. Kolaios and his crew returned to Samos with Iberian (Spanish) silver and minerals and stories of potential new trading lands. Within decades the Greeks had established a strong trading presence in Iberia and supplemented these activities by establishing settlements. Some scholars debate the size and the existence of a number of the settlements. It is certain that a town existed in the region approaching modern Gibraltar and within the boundaries of Tartessos. The town was called Mainake however not much is known about its history. Another town located in southern Iberia but facing the east was Hemerskopeion. These places ensured that Greek merchants could facilitate their trade with Iberians and had a base that was not controlled by their great rivals the Phoenicians. Many archeological sites in southern Spain have unearthed Greek pottery from the 700’s BC onwards. Phocaea – a name I can’t pronounce and is a place I have never been to. This was a great city on the coast of Asia Minor towards the Hellespont. It was captured by the Persians in 545BC, however its maritime activities in the 200 years prior to this date led to the establishment of some of the greatest cities in the world. During the great Greek colonial epoch of antiquity the Phocaeans established the colonies of Emporion and Rhode in northern Spain (above Barcelona). The latter colony was established before the ancient Olympic Games and the former was to become an important centre of commerce. The presence of Greeks in the southern regions of Spain and Portugal was to last until the seventh century AD when Byzantine control was overthrown. The Phocaeans established the colony of Massalia about 600BC. A local story tells us that Protis from Phocaea was invited to a “coming out” event by a local king for his daughter. Protis was your typical Adonis (or perhaps a Hercules) looking Greek so the girl fell in love with Protis and they were given as dowry the land in what would become Massalia. Massalia which today is known as Marseille (France) was to develop as a leading city in the Mediterranean and was the first Greek colony in the west to reach a population of over 1000. It was a city that remained independent until 49 BC when it was captured by Julius Caesar after a 6 month siege. The locals resisted as best as they could using all their Herculean reserves in the process. The City was one of the last of the Greek colonies in the far west to retain its Greek character and language, holding on at least until the arrival of the Visigoths in fifth century AD and into the next. Massalia founded a number of other colonies in the region including Agathe, Olbia, Antipolis and Nicaea. Nicaea was founded by the Massalians in 350BC after a victory over a neighbouring kingdom. The City was named after the Greek Goddess of Victory, Nike and is not to be confused with any sponsorship deals involving Tiger Woods. I have been to both Nice and Marseilles and it is amazing that from such humble, Greek origins they are today large and vibrant French cities. Another great City that owes its development to the Greeks is that of Monaco. Founded as Monoikos by the Massalians in the sixth century BC it is also known as the Port of Hercules after he stopped off here during his travels. And like Hercules I too stopped here many years ago for a quick drink. There are other areas of France where the Greeks had small trading settlements or like Alalia in Corsica had established a significant town. Speaking of Corsica, its time to point out that the Byzantine Empire – the medieval Greek empire, held the island of Corsica and all of the Mediterranean islands for a significant period during the sixth and seventh centuries AD (not BC). The Byzantine rule during this epoch also extended to southern Spain and northern Africa. This ensured that towns that were formerly Greek colonies and many of the people living in those locations continued to speak Greek or identify with that culture. However, unlike Byzantine control of Magna Gracia or the Cyrenaica in Libya it would be difficult to say that the Greek speakers were overwhelming dominant in those areas. The Greeks were responsible not only for establishing so many prominent colonies and trade but for introducing olive and wine to France. It was the Greeks who introduced these products to France and ensured that wine was made in that region for years to come. Think about it, what would the world be like if French wine was not produced the way we know it? So the moral of my story is, next time you think you have come across an ancient Greek theatre, please make sure it is. Otherwise you might just find a series of Greek colonies and some anecdotes about Hercules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.131.10.148 (talk) 06:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

John Galliano's picture

I've got some pictures of John Galliano but I'm not too confident in uploading them, as I'm afraid they'll get taken off. Is it okay to post pictures from a site as long as I provide a link to them? Wengistein 10:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it would not be. Copyrighted pictures of living people should not be uploaded. ShadowHalo 03:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Is he married, has he got any kids?

theres nowt about his relationships in the personal section, just guff about his fitness reime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.202.127 (talk) 18:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have a look at this http://www.rainbownetwork.com/UserPortal/Article/Detail.aspx?ID=1208 you'll see that hes on the list for influential gay persons for the 2007. Nothing about his personal life though :p —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.189.69 (talk) 13:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Nationality

In reply to the recent edits by Anon, I have read WP:MOSBIO and in this case Gibraltarian is not an ethnicity as he was born there and lived there for some time. Being Spanish in his case would be ethnicity as only his mother was Spanish, so that shouldn't be in the lead as it was originaly. There is no need to mention that he is British in the lead as being Gibraltarian also means being British by default. Besides, his nationality is clearly stated as British in the infobox. Hope you now understand why I changed it. --Gibmetal 77^talk 22:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Gibraltarian is a Nationality?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.213.240.231 (talk) 21:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Spanish name customs

If Galliano is a British citizen, why does this article follow Spanish name customs? The articles of other known Gibraltarians (eg. Solomon Levy, Kaiane Aldorino) follow British name customs. Kaiane Aldorino also has Spanish ancestry, just like Galliano. --81.154.79.79 (talk) 18:58, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

You are right. He doesn't use spanish naming customs nor does anyone else in Gibraltar. I'm going to ammend it, if anyone can produce evidence to the contrary they should do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.65.49.99 (talk) 15:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Dior Suspension - Portman comments will prove to be critical

Oscar-Winner Natalie Portman was 'Disgusted' By John Galliano's Anti-Semitic Comments[1]. --70.162.171.210 (talk) 15:18, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

John Galliano's Comeback

Mardiste (talk) 01:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Monitoring site

Given the news attn, Wiki editors might be vigilant about this article for the next while. It had 136k hits on Mar. 1st, when the title description was changed to "neo-Nazi". I've reverted that & edited the text for grammar and smoothing, as we can expect it to get much attn. Let's try to make Wikipedia look good and reliable to those drawn to it here, who might not otherwise know it.Alethe (talk) 08:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)