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This should be at [[Les Moonves]] because it is what he is always called. See [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)]]. [[User:Acegikmo1|Acegikmo1]] 20:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC) |
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:Every biographical article about the man calls him by his proper legal name, Leslie Moonves. Even the CBS biography page lists him as "Leslie". Therefore I submit, he is not "always" called "Les". |
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:*[http://www.cbscorporation.com/our_company/executives/index.php Biography from CBS Corp. website] |
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:[[User:Bark|Bark]] 20:15, 30 March (UTC) |
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::A [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22Les+Moonves%22&btnG=Search&meta= Google search] shows more than twice as many results for "Les Moonves" as for "Leslie Moonves"[http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22Leslie+Moonves%22&btnG=Search&meta=]. [[User:Acegikmo1|Acegikmo1]] 22:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC) |
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:::The Internet Movie Database lists him as "Leslie". Every official site I have seen to date refers to him as "Leslie". |
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:::*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0600800/ Leslie Moonves at IMDb.] |
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:::[[User:Bark|Bark]] 18:05, 14 April (UTC) |
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Yes, but naming conventions state, "When choosing a name for a page ask yourself: What word would the average user of the Wikipedia put into the search engine". The media more often calls him "Les Moonves" than "Leslie Moonves". There are more instances of CNN using [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22les+moonves%22+site%3Acnn.com&btnG=Search&meta= Les (218)] than [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22leslie+moonves%22+site%3Acnn.com&btnG=Search&meta= Leslie (184)]. The same is true for nbc.com and cbs.com. Even IMDB returns [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22les+moonves%22+site%3Aimdb.com&btnG=Search&meta= 645 results] for "Les Moonves" but only [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22leslie+moonves%22+site%3Aimdb.com&btnG=Search&meta= 151] for "Leslie Moonves". I think it's clear that "the average user" would know him as "Les Moonves". But you seem reasonable and bring up good points. Should we call a vote to resolve it? [[User:Acegikmo1|Acegikmo1]] 01:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC) |
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We have a good redirect, so making reference of the nickname in the article itself should be sufficient. [[User:Bark|Bark]] 19:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC) |
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Also, remember the Internet Movie Database. IMDb has a similar naming convention policy of referring to common names. [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001051/ Bill Clinton] and [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086363/ Tony Blair] are good examples. They are specifically cited in Wiki's naming convention policy. As such, those common names are what both are listed under here. They are also listed under those common names at IMDb. However, Leslie Moonves is listed under "Leslie Moonves". "Les" is relegated to a nickname that he is sometimes credited as. Therefore, if credible biographical sites on the Internet, especially ones with similar common naming conventions policies to Wiki, (in this case IMDb), has rejected the use of "Les" in favor of "Leslie", it seems obvious to me we adopt the same standards. Have the main article under "Leslie", redirect "Les", and make mention of the nickname in the article. [[User:Bark|Bark]] 10:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC) |
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===Neutrality=== |
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Neutrality
I am concerned about the neutrality of the section mentioning the shows he's cancelled. When I found the article, I was directed from a Star Trek page; I thought "hrm... here's the man responsible for ending Star Trek", in a fairly negative way... on the other hand, someone who hated "Judging Amy" may come and say "Sweet! the man who ended Judging Amy!". Would it be possible to expand this, maybe with a couple of references as to why? Though being able to back that up may in itself be a problem... David Souther
- It's not the writer's fault if Moonves is more famous for destroying prestigious shows than creating them. I would think that it is Mooves' job to justify his actions.
24.30.124.40 00:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
As a Trekker, it kills me to say the Enterprise just wasnt very good. Manny Coto was an excellent producer in the last season, but the damage had been done by Berman at that point. Moonves did not single handedly kill Enterprise. In fact, due to its high awareness factor, Moonves approval was sought for its cancellation. On any other UPN show, he would have not been involved to that degree. Also, the new WB network that was formed out of the merger was clearly not marketing itself towards Sci-Fi and Enterprise just didnt fit the audience they were pursuing. I would vote for the removal of this comment, but I will not delete it without a second vote.76.185.160.59 (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Nationality???
Does anyone know what his ethnicity is? This would make his early biograpghy better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.225.232.80 (talk) 23:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
—His nationality is American. His name is derived from Munweis or Monbesz (cf. his great-aunt Paula Ben-Gurion). His great-uncle was David Ben-Gurion the founding PM of Israel.69.204.163.4 08:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
...lol...The question was "Does anyone know what his ethnicity is?" The answer is found by deduction because for some reason people are afraid to call a big time media executive for what he is. The answer is that he is a Jew.99.55.174.192 (talk) 01:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
TPIR on GSN
I'd like to know how in the world he thinks the ratings would decrease on CBS' TPIR is he lets GSN rerun the origina TPIR and Bill Cullen's TPIR?
--24.228.70.72 00:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)nextbarker
changes in article
Why did the article remove the list of shows that Moonves has axed? 76.122.75.11 (talk) 01:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)