Talk:Fiat Panda

Automatic is 5 speed

I should know, I drive one. It is a dualogic roboticised semi auto/auto box with 5 forward speeds and 1 reverse.

Validity of the New Panda article

Please try not to pollute the original Panda article with 2003 onwards items as that is all in a different article. I've removed two incredibly confusing entries. (This unsigned comment was left by 86.214.7.110 on 23 April, 2006.)

You have got to be kidding... "Old Fiat Panda"?! "New Fiat Panda"?! Whose bright idea was it to separate them (and give them such unencyclopedic titles)? If Wikipedia can incorporate 10 body styles of Ford Mustangs spanning 40 years in a single article (and get it featured), or seven generations of Mitsubishi Minicas spanning 44 years, how do a pair of Pandas require their own pages?

Nothing to do with me ( 86.214.7.110 on 23 April, 2006.) ). Frankly I couldn't give a stuff whether the articles are seperate or not. However, whatever is set up should be adhered to, or altered entirely. At the time of the edit above, there was the "New" and "Fiat Panda" articles kept seperate and "New" items kept appearing in the "Original" article.

I'm going to discuss a merger of the two at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. I hope to see you there if you'd like to contribute to the discussion. -- DeLarge 18:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I merged the two as your right there is no reason to keep the two articles seperate. Regards, Signature^brendel 04:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I just got through cleaning up the article. What do you guys think? --ApolloBoy 06:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I did some minor clean-up after merging as this article was in great need of a major revamp. The Article looks Much Better Now! Great work everyone! Regards, Signature^brendel 18:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Polish police buy blue & white Panda Actuals

If only the British police would do the same, then they'd be "Actual Pandas"! (A "panda car" being a British term for a local — non-high speed use — police car, which were once painted blue and white in many forces.) ;-) – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Ahhh, me too, it would be the culmination of a lifetime pondering, as I always thought this was a literal description when I was younger (hey, if they have a contingent of Fiesta Populars, why not Pandas?)... much disappointment when I found it wasn't :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.180.56 (talk) 00:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Panda Super windows

This is a super-trivial point, and the article isn't wrong in what it says just now, but it may be misleading by omission. And since there's the impetus for a cleanup just now...

Whilst I'm certain about the fact that the 1986 "Mark II" had full-size front side windows without quarterlights, which I've added to the article, and that the original 1980 Pandas didn't (as you can see in the photos in the article), I'm curious about the 1983 "Super" which came with a front-grille facelift but not the main mechanical changes under the skin. I'm pretty sure it didn't have the new windows. But I can't prove it from any of the brochures I've got. Anyone? – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Can't help on that in any way other than to back up the point about the 1986 ones; my mother's old 1000CL was an '86 and had one-piece windows. Didn't have contact with a car that had cheap, quarterlight-based windows until buying a '91 Polo much later. And, for that matter, where's mention of this model in the lineup? Not all 998cc ones were Supers! (CL.. 4-speed box, a second external mirror, a stronger rear bench, a cheap radio... and that's your lot) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.180.56 (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The door redesign was definitely part of the '86 "Mark II" overhaul: My folks had a 1983 "A-Reg" Super from new, and it had the quarter light door windows, (and a strong tendancy to rust: poor thing fell apart within a few years). Later on my brother's "D-Reg" 1987 Super and my own much loved "G-Reg" 1990 CL both had the revised galvanised body shell (my CL's bodywork was completely rust-free except for the base of the door sills when I parted with it in 2001) and proper roll down windows. Have amended the article accordingly noting these structural changes as being part of the 1986 revision Splateagle (talk) 13:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

MPG in US gallons

The table at the bottom give the fuel performance in US gallons with imperial and l/100km in brackets, should it not be in l/100km first with mpg figures in brackets? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.251.40 (talk) 02:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC) I'd agree with this. This is a car made by an Italian manufacturer and popular mainly in Europe, and therefore also an article of international rather than US-specific interest. Both the top speed and fuel consumption data should be in metric first as per Wikipedia's style guide. The data is also not referenced. RedGreenInBlue (talk) 11:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Renault 4 & Citroen 2CV comparison

Recently this has been repeatedly edited with no comment to change one or other of these comparisons (usually the less well known Renault) to VW Beetle - since justifying the revert in comment isn't stopping the edits I thought it'd be worth starting a discussion here on the comparisons.

The comparisons chosen reflect the Panda's "utility car" role which both the Citroen and Renault shared, being designed with versatility in mind for more varied uses than simply carrying four passengers - unlike the VW Beetle.

I'm looking for a source on this from the original Panda's launch but in the meantime (barring a well argued/sourced rationale for the change of course) please could whoever it is stop switching in the Beetle every few days? Thanks.Splateagle (talk) 11:00, 9 June 2010 (UTC)