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This article was nominated for deletion on 24 October 2007. The result of the discussion was Keep.

It became common due to text messaging? This kind of typing has been common for years — it was commonplace when I first visited chat rooms in 1997 or so, and was undoubtedly popular before that. -Branddobbe 08:50, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)

True enough. I have updated to reflect this. Guinness 16:05, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it originated way before chat rooms. It has been used at least as far back as the 70s and 80s by the deaf community using TTD and TTY devices to chat. Neil Weicher 01:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IMO the telegraphists were probably the first to use them. JohnnyBatina 17:30, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

abbreviations

I think the abbreviations list is probably going to get a bit big, and also there seem to be a lot of initialisms added. I think this probably needs to be split into distinct initialisms (assuming there isn't another list of them somewhere in wikipedia), and abbreviations lists.

I agree: the list could be miles longer, and probably ought to be a bit mor thorough for general knowledge. It does seem there are a lot of common abbreviations & initialisms missing as it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.212.27 (talk) 05:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SMS

I suggest that the title of this article should be "SMS language", or something similar... since the word "texting" (as a verb) is itself slang. The "Texting language" title could be a redirect. Any thoughts? EuroSong ^talk 10:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since there were no objections in two weeks, I went ahead with it :) EuroSong ^talk 22:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a typo in the definition of the abbreviation cba 'Can't be assed'? What is assed

Also suggested additional abbreviation 'ftf' meaning 'face to face'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.180.1.224 (talk) 05:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Was this language primarily influenced by internet chat (in chatrooms and in games) and internet messageboards, or did text messaging influence these? The article says very little about the relationship between SMS language and other similar forms of language. The language has also creeped into emails, which are treated like text messages by many. Rintrah 13:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. What relevance is the link to Eats Shoots and Leaves? There are many books on grammar which denounce SMS language - why choose this one? Rintrah 13:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Example

A text message of Shane Warne would serve as a good example of this language! Rintrah 08:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article length

This article is way, way too long; mostly because of the extroadinary length of the sms acronyms. Keep the most notable and relevant ones and move the rest to another article, like "List of SMS acronyms". People will be more pleased with the article if it is shorter. I have War and Peace in my bookcase so I don't seek out lengthy texts for the sake of it. Rintrah 07:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. A List of SMS acronyms article would be more suitable. Why have we got an Abbreviation section and then a More Abbreviations section? MortimerCat 19:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I shall fix it now. Rintrah 15:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A new article List of SMS abbreviations has been created, but immediately tagged with a delete flag. Could anyone with an opinion join in the discussion there. MortimerCat 16:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article Clean-up

I have cleaned up the article quite a lot and it looks considerably better than when I first encountered it. I would still like some assistance, though:

There are no references in the introduction.
There are no references in the txt devices and abbreviations sections (sources shouldn't be difficult to find.)
There should be ten or so examples in the Abbreviations section (they can be taken from the main article.)

If someone addresses these concerns, the article might attain Good Article status.

I am going to join up the cleaning up process of this article since I think this article is important. I think the abbreviations should talk about ways which SMS language were derived/made from Standard English, instead of giving a comprehenisve list of abbreviations, which should be done in another article such as list of SMS language or just text language.--Ingramhk (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

Can someone find proper references for this article? Rintrah 14:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename?

I'm not sure what to move this to, but "SMS language" is a terrible name. Since many (including myself) oppose having separate articles for AOL speak and the other variants, I think this article should include those too. Internet slang is alright, but too broad in the sense that there's Leet and computer jargon and too narrow in the sense it only deals with Internet-based slang, excluding mobile phone texting. Since we have a limited amount of articles on these types of slang, I think grouping them by likeness, rather than the platform they're used on (mobile phones vs. Internet), is the most logical method. Not to mention, I have never heard of the phrase "SMS language" before. Currently, there's a lot of overlap between this article and Internet slang, because this article excludes the language's origin and current use on other platforms merely because of it's title.

So anyone know what to name this? Rocket000 08:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about something along the likes of "Technology Shorthand". I prefer the use of the word "shorthand" to "slang", as it is a form of shorthand.Hengineer (talk) 14:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But is SMS language really the same thing as internet slang? SMS language specifically evolved due to there being limited space on a small mobile phone screen, and before predictive text was introduced, typing in words was very time-consuming. Therefore the practice of cutting out vowels, for example, came about. On the other hand, internet slang did not evolve due to lack of space - but has its own set of words. Like "brb", to mean "be right back", used in instant messaging. These internet abbreviations evolved not because of lack of space, but because of the frequency of commonly-typed messages. You don't see this on a mobile phone. Therefore I dispute the assertion that they're the same thing. EuroSong ^talk 18:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Separate Lists?

Some of these abbreviations do sound odd. Maybe we should separate them into popular and non-popular, cuz some of these I've never really heard of. :-\ --ZSoraz (talk) 16:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Especially "no becomes na" and "is becomes iz" make no sense. I am going to remove them. They are of the exact same length, not abbreviations. Bobber0001 (talk) 13:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

I think the article should be renamed as Textese, since its being referred with that name, and sounds much accurate. I've provided references to this articles going through them will give a fair view. Any Ideas Randhir 00:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

GTFO merge into SMS Language

Not worth its own article, is it? Patchy1Talk To Me! 04:29, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Profanity

Some person is using profanity on this site, some swears and some having to do with sex. I seriously recommend changing them, or this could get out of hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.196.53 (talk) 14:45, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviations

What the fuck is up with some of these abbreviations? "My Dick is hard MDIH or wacko"? What the fuck? Or "Kiss my teeth"? Most of these aren't even abbreviations, they're just the first letters of a few words put together, that's not an abbreviation. I shouldn't be surprised though, an article like this is probably maintained by the 12yr's speaking 'sms language'. Where are the wikinazi's when you need actually need them.. 110.32.132.111 (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This ain't Urban Dictionary. 207.238.52.162 (talk) 18:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of Love

I don't think many people use this, I believe that this was a prank for people to think that this was a positive thing (IE: "My Mother recently died" "Lol" usually is a negative meaning). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexthegod5 (talk • contribs) 23:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Abbreviation Section?

Giant list seems completely unnecessary. It's an article about it, not a vocab book. I don't see how it adds any value to the article, personally. Anyone else have an opinion? Torca (talk) 08:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trim. Only the useful ones useful solely for the first-timer should be left. kazu (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then. How about removing all but At the moment, Be right back, By the Way, Got to Go, I don't know, Just Kidding, Laugh out Loud, Talk to you later, What the fuck. Will delete the rest tonight, unless there are any others people think should/shouldn't stay. Torca (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ZOMG

I was redirected here for ZOMG, and the article doesn't explain it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.105.23.179 (talk) 13:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frequency of use is biased

"less than 20%" , "just 10%". What about "approximatedly 20%", "close to 10%"? Also, why it matters the self analysis of a linguist? I would prefer, sample collections from different aged groups. LOL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.54.234.195 (talk) 03:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Common abbreviations

The Common abbreviations section needs sourcing or removing. Who's to say what are common and what are uncommon abbreviations? Carl Sixsmith (talk) 15:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Different user >> You should add C/w as an abbrieviation for "Complied With" which is used in the Military. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.166.90.227 (talk) 16:45, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Worldwide view

I think the article need to make clear that it's dealing only with the 'English-derived' SMS language, as opposed to French-derived or others. We need to acknowledge that the language described here is not universal to everyone in the world who communicate using SMS. Probably by adding something like "In the English-speaking world..." in the header. Or by adding a section (briefly) describing other SMS languages. 125.166.192.196 (talk) 14:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion?

What about FTW? (---- the world, for the win.) I see it all the time. 24.179.27.28 (talk) 01:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 I think the article need to make clear that it's dealing only with the 'English-derived' SMS language, as opposed to French-derived or others. We need to acknowledge that the language described here is not universal to everyone in the world who communicate using SMS. Probably by adding something like "In the English-speaking world..." in the header. Or by adding a section (briefly) describing other SMS languages. [[Special:Contributions/125.166.192.196|125.166.192.196]] ([[User talk:125.166.192.196|talk]]) 14:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
+== Suggestion? ==
+What about FTW? (---- the world, for the win.) I see it all the time. [[Special:Contributions/24.179.27.28|24.179.27.28]] ([[User talk:24.179.27.28|talk]]) 01:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)