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Ronald Schiller

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126 news sources, according to Google--but I maintain this is WP:ONEEVENT, and nothing more than a name-and-shame to boot. We are not the news, and this is not how notability is achieved. Drmies (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: This is a significant event based on news coverage in reliable secondary sources, schiller does not appear to have much notability apart from this though. Merge into the article about James O'Keefe and his videos. Warfieldian (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is pretty easy to find extensive press coverage of his success as a fund raiser, most notably for the University of Chicago. There are lots of news articles about him before this incident.I.Casaubon (talk) 21:40, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could live with a merge, yes--but not with this current BLP violation that flies in the face of NPOV and any idea of balance. Drmies (talk) 01:37, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: This article needs to be improved; this will occur naturally over time. Why is there a rush to delete this article? The rush to delete could be interpreted as a form of cencorship. (I am not saying that it is censorship, but why invite the criticsm?) This is a very significant event, and this might be the eventual cause of NPR "defunding".--74.0.166.140 (talk) 23:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The version (at the moment) doesn't seem to violate BLP content or sourcing-wise, and the statements are neutral. The violation if any would be a weight issue that it covers (albeit neutrally) only a single derogatory incident about a person who is potentially not notable. The NPR / secret tape incident is current news, and I'm sure this article will settle down soon, and we can iron out any lingering BLP and neutrality issues. The longer-term question is whether Schiller is notable. Query to I.Casaubon: would you mind listing some of those sources or adding them to the article? If that's true then he's probably notable and should have his own, balanced, article. I just couldn't find any in a quick google search. - Wikidemon (talk) 15:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:22, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 : It is pretty easy to find extensive press coverage of his success as a fund raiser, most notably for the University of Chicago.  There are lots of news articles about him before this incident.[[User:I.Casaubon|I.Casaubon]] ([[User talk:I.Casaubon|talk]]) 21:40, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 :I could live with a merge, yes--but not with this current BLP violation that flies in the face of NPOV and any idea of balance. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 01:37, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''': This article needs to be improved; this will occur naturally over time.  Why is there a rush to delete this article?  The rush to delete could be interpreted as a form of cencorship.  (I am not saying that it is censorship, but why invite the criticsm?)  This is a very significant event, and this might be the eventual cause of NPR "defunding".--[[Special:Contributions/74.0.166.140|74.0.166.140]] ([[User talk:74.0.166.140|talk]]) 23:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 *'''Comment'''.  The version (at the moment) doesn't seem to violate BLP content or sourcing-wise, and the statements are neutral.  The violation if any would be a weight issue that it covers (albeit neutrally) only a single derogatory incident about a person who is potentially not notable.  The NPR / secret tape incident is current news, and I'm sure this article will settle down soon, and we can iron out any lingering BLP and neutrality issues.  The longer-term question is whether Schiller is notable.  Query to I.Casaubon: would you mind listing some of those sources or adding them to the article?  If that's true then he's probably notable and should have his own, balanced, article.  I just couldn't find any in a quick google search.  - [[User:Wikidemon|Wikidemon]] ([[User talk:Wikidemon|talk]]) 15:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 02:22, 9 March 2011 (UTC)</small>