Talk:Soyuz 1

Komorov cursing

The link cited in the text says nothing about Komorov cursing anyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Furius (talk • contribs)

Yes it does: [1]

Stories prevalent among those who worked at US listening posts in Turkey said that Komarov was infuriated by the balky spacecraft, and went out cursing those who had sent him in such an unready piece of equipment.

—Pengo 05:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

The text here say "Komarov cursed the engineers and flight staff as he descended" and that is definitely incorrect. I am unable to say if he cursed while in orbit, but certainly not during decent. And the text here also states that Soyuz 1 crashed to Earth virtually unbreaked.

It did crashland, yes thats correct, but at a speed of 40-50 m/s. Thats the speed of a speedtrain, or one extreme car. But is is completely wrong to say unbreaked' since orbital speed are 200 times higher.

I could go on pointing out the errors of this text, but before I do so - please tell me this is the urban legend version and you got a correct one somewhere else - please?

Orbital speed is irrelevant, you can't go at that speed in the lower atmosphere, even if you have an insanely powerful engine on your back. Furthermore, the capsule is designed to have a stabilized and somewhat naturally braked descent thanks to its shape. But I agree that a parachute, even not deployed, would have provided some braking (I'm a skydiver), the terminal velocity of the capsule without parachute should be higher than 50 m/s Aesma (talk) 11:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Confusion in the second para

I think the article needs clean up in the second paragraph.

"Mission planners originally intended to launch a second Soyuz 2 into orbit on the next day carrying three cosmonauts - Valery Fyodorovich Bykovsky, Yevgeny Vassilyevich Khrunov, and Aleksei Stanislavovich Yeliseyev - and two of those were planned to do an EVA to Soyuz 1. Shortly after launch, problems began when one solar panel failed to unfold, leading to a shortage of power for the spacecraft's systems. Also, problems with the orientation detectors complicated maneuvering the craft. The crew on the second Soyuz prepared to fix the solar panel of Soyuz 1, but heavy rain at Baikonur made the launch impossible."

I would suggest following paragraph with the kind of permission of the author:

" Shortly after launch of Soyuz 1, problems began when one solar panel failed to unfold, leading to a shortage of power for the spacecraft's systems. Also, problems with the orientation detectors complicated maneuvering the craft. Mission planners intended to launch another craft, Soyuz 2, into orbit on the next day carrying three cosmonauts - Valery Fyodorovich Bykovsky, Yevgeny Vassilyevich Khrunov, and Aleksei Stanislavovich Yeliseyev - and two of those were planned to do an EVA to Soyuz 1. The crew on the second Soyuz prepared to fix the solar panel of Soyuz 1. But heavy rain at Baikonur made the launch of Soyuz 2 impossible."

Regards,

Pranesh Bhargava 05:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC) Pranesh Bhargava .

That's not better, because it implies that Soyuz 2 was a new mission planned as a rescue attempt. No, they were slated all along to go up the next day. When S1 had problems, their mission changed. Also, I found more than 1 reference saying S2 was cancelled because of problems with S1, but none that mentioned the rain. I'm not arguing. I'm just wondering if that would have been the "official story" of why it was cut. See if this is any better... Leesonma 06:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The First Fatality?

The possibility that Komorov was not the first in-flight space fatality is discussed in Talk:Soviet space program conspiracy accusations. This possibility is taken seriously by serious authors, such as James Oberg. Vegasprof 10:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Crash site

The coordinates (51° 21′ 41.4″ N, 59° 33′ 43.92″ E) provided for the crash site at "3 km West of Karabutak, Province of Orenburg in the Russian Federation" actually place you in Cancun, Mexico. This is clearly wrong but I haven't a clue what the proper coordinates should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.65.49.220 (talk) 13:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I can't vouch for the accuracy of these coordinates, but they are in Russia. You, apparently, tried to use google maps to view the location, and it doesn't understand coordinates in that format. 70.113.47.133 (talk) 18:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Source for cursing

http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2011/03/21/134597833/cosmonaut-crashed-into-earth-crying-in-rage?sc=fb&cc=fp

Is it still unproven? 131.107.0.69 (talk) 01:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)