User talk:Dylan620/Archives/2011/April

WikiCup 2011 March newsletter

We are half way through round two of the WikiCup, which will end on 28 April. Of the 64 current contestants, 32 will make it through to the next round; the two highest in each pool, and the 16 next highest scorers. At the time of writing, our current overall leader is Hurricanehink (submissions) with 231 points, who leads Pool H. Piotrus (submissions) (Pool G) also has over 200 points, while 9 others (three of whom are in Pool D) have over 100 points. Remember that certain content (specifically, articles/portals included in at least 20 Wikipedias as of 31 December 2010 or articles which are considered "vital") is worth double points if promoted to good or featured status, or if it appears on the main page in the Did You Know column. There were some articles last round which were eligible for double points, but which were not claimed for. For more details, see Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring.

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Talk page access

User:Bonaparte/User:Iaaasi uses his talk page access to throw mud at me (the second time). Was this the original purpose of enabling him to edit the talk page?
As you (and possibly other admins) still seem to read what he writes, do I need to point out his falsifications, distortions or should I just let it go? Squash Racket (talk) 16:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

The original purpose of restoring Iaaasi's access to his talk page was to allow him to address comments in his ban discussion. That being said, it is preferred to discuss bans over a period of 48 hours, and Iaaasi's ban discussion has been open for roughly 56-69 hours. I'll post at AN asking whether consensus exists for a community ban, or if more discussion is required.

And I'm only really watching Iaaasi's posts to his talk page, for now; pointing out his "falsifications and distortions" may help to determine socks in the future, so please do. --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 22:07, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, while it was never proven that Iaaasi wasn't a sock of Bonaparte, it was never proven that he was either, and that's what matters. Please do not say that one user is a sock of another without proof (like CheckUser, for example). Unfounded sockpuppetry allegations are personal attacks (and so is your allegation of Iaaasi's "falsifications and distortions", pending the evidence that I have requested). --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 22:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

He was originally blocked as a sock of Bonaparte. Excirial's comment was the only reason for which he was treated as a "new user", quote:

It is possible that this account is a separate group of sock puppets from Bonaparte. User:iaaasi admitted he is the puppet master for User:Conttest and User:umumu, so it may be possible this is a separate group. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 12:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

If you see a link between those two statements, notify me.
Distortion: I changed the lead of the football team back to its longstanding title, because — as Iaaasi very well knows — there's a Requested move process only waiting to be closed by an admin with an overwhelming, clear support for that move. In fact he changed the lead of that article in a bad faith, because by the time he did that the process to move it to its original title (Golden Team or a similar version of it) enjoyed wide support.
"militating for his ban": I haven't even voted there! I argued against the whole process as Excirial didn't give any reason for us to treat him as a new editor. I showed the links to admins to let them decide. My main concern was the detection of a banned editor from a new IP range.
He claims: "The only sock account I used since last my block is User:Nauneim, which was already blocked (since 7 February 2010). I edited only its talk page. If editing that talk page was enabled, I considered it is nothing illegal": User:Nauneim's first edit was a removal of a Hungarian name, next moment he got autoblocked, because it was an IP recently used by Iaaasi. That's why he only edited its talk page. He even tried to blank the page after he had been caught.
He falsely called others' edits vandalism, he even falsely reported at the vandalism noticeboard.
He broke 3RR at the article Székely two days before the edit warring for which he was blocked. Neither User:Hobartimus, nor me reported him, so he could get away. Should we continue? Squash Racket (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

While Iaaasi was suspected as a sock of Bonaparte, I don't see anything about that in the rationale for his first indef. In any event, Iaaasi is now formally banned, so even if he is Bonaparte, the matter has become irrelevant, as both sockfarms will now be reverted on sight.

Iaaasi didn't quite violate 3RR at Székely. To violate 3RR, you must make at least four reverts on a single article within a 24-hour timespan. While Iaaasi did make four reverts, those were in a timespan of 33 hours; he certainly edit-warred, though. I should note that if you or Hobartimus had reported Iaaasi for edit-warring, you would have reported yourselves as well, since you were both parties in the edit war (Hobartimus made three reverts, while you made two).

I think that by "since [his] last block", Iaaasi meant since his prior indef was reversed. That being said, Iaaasi should have known better than to use any socks at all; also, as Jpgordon had to use a rangeblock, it is plausible that Iaaasi had socked via IP's as well.

I agree with you about the AIV report, the Golden Team move discussion, and that you weren't "militating for [Iaaasi's] ban". --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 18:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

No matter how I count it, he broke 3RR on 22nd March 2011 at the article Székely (that means within 24 hours). While Hobartimus did not. Besides, he edit warred alone against two editors, so he shouldn't have pushed it at all...

But now that isn't very important that much anymore. Squash Racket (talk) 11:05, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Bacon WikiCup 2011 Award

		Bacon WikiCup 2011 - Participant Medal
		Due to your work in expanding bacon-related content during the Bacon WikiCup 2011, you have been awarded the Bacon WikiCup 2011 Particpant Medal. You received a final score of 37, earning yourself sixth place. Congratulations, and thank you for your great work! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 09:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Yay :) --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 03:08, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

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I'm Reporting you for edit warring!!!

This is your final warning!!! I cut you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.74.154.74 (talk) 19:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

You replaced the article's entire content with this. Why should I not have reverted that? --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 19:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

It might be worth closing the others aswell, but I'll leave that up to you. Unsure if I can withdraw an AFD or not but I doubt it. Oh and the comment above made me smile. Best,   «l| Promethean ™|l»  (talk) 01:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. BTW, Special:Search/withdrawn prefix:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion turns up over 6,000 results, so I think it's safe to assume that withdrawing is legal as far as AfD goes. --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 03:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank You for moving my user boxes

Thank You so much for moving them to the proper spot. This was my first time creating userboxes and I was having trouble finding where to put them, but now I see where. Thank you once again--Nyswimmer (talk) 02:41, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: My Userpage

Thanks, I totally understand. I'll read those pages and not post any private info again. Rcsprinter^{Gimme a message} 14:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Redaction

Why are you editing my comments? Keristrasza (talk) 23:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I've sent you an e-mail about that. --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 23:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Your email doesn't actually answer my question, I'm afraid. Please point me to the policy you are following so that I may educate myself. Keristrasza (talk) 23:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

It's not exactly a policy, but it does summarize how other policies apply in this situation; Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy states: "Users who appear to be children editing in good faith who disclose identifying personal information... should be advised that disclosing personal information is a bad idea and is potentially dangerous. Deletion and oversight may be used in appropriate cases to remove the information." The user's mention of his own age on his userpage has already been oversighted, so I decided that the best course of action would be to remove any mentions of his age at the ANI thread. --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 23:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Not exactly a policy ... Exactly, not policy. In fact, a user essay. The actual policy is WP:CHILDPROTECT. Keristrasza (talk) 00:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Surely common sense would dictate that it is best to protect the user's privacy? I should also note that I am acting in line with this arbitration remedy - see Wikipedia:Arbitration for more information. --Dylan620 ^{(t • c)} 00:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Another bloody essay. POLICY man, or sthu. Besides, did you actually read that essay? "When a user self-identifies as a child, especially if they provide personal information, the matter is frequently a subject of discussion among administrators... Sometimes the user is immature and ends up being blocked for disruption. If they are not disruptive, personal information may be removed and the user counseled." The user we are discussing has yet to be banned, if at all. Their age is a vital part of the decision making process to be carried out by the community. Keristrasza (talk) 00:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If you think the essay is worthless, why bother quoting it? Their exact age is completely irrelevant to the discussion; it's none of your business what it is. I'm still uncertain what point you're trying to get out of this. AD 01:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The age became relevant as soon as it was decided - outside of policy - to redact it, potentially leading to the community not having all of the facts at their disposal when deciding what, if any, sanctions to apply. Insofar as it might be none of my business, it's none of yours, either: who made you the arbiter of age disclosure on WP? Exactly: noone. I've hopefully drawn sufficient attention to it, so I'm done with the discussion now. I'm winding my neck in, I'd suggest you do the same before you insult me again. Keristrasza (talk) 01:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

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