Talk:Fast Five

THIS is the wikipage for the Film.

I placed the hangon tag, I don't believe the person who tagged it understands what is happening. Fast Five (disambig) has links to three topics, with Fast Five being a link to the disambiguation page. Fast Five should only have a LINK to the movie page, just as "Fab Four" doesn't jump you into the Beatles.rhyre (talk) 18:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

rhyre (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Content suggestions

The vast majority of this article has absolutely nothing to do with an upcoming movie. Per WP:NOTNEWS, I don't think Wikipedia should have an article detailing the week by week events involved in filming. Even if this can survive Speedy Deletion, though, it certainly wouldn't survive a PROD, per the criteria regarding future films in WP:NFF. Thus, per WP:SNOW, we should go ahead and speedy delete anyway. Once this film has started principal photography and the production is notable itself, then an article can be created. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for a week to week acount for the making of a film, although i do think the article should stay, be cut to a minium until the film is released and focus on the key point that the film is being made. Atkinsonhd (talk) 03:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Some seem to be calling for edits to the article to reduce the amount of content, others for deletion. I didn't create the original content of the page, merely cut/pasted it from the overly generic Fast Five page (which others keep trying to replace with the Film Content, despite it being a working title).

My suggestions are

Please review Amors Baller to see if that's a more suitable model for an upcoming film, and comment here.

Please review the page for Fast Five and comment here, suggesting whether or not THAT content should be moved here to create the smaller article. Be aware that anonymous fanboys of the movie series may revert your work for a time.

rhyre (talk) 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Rhyre, you're correct that, if the movie deserves an article, it should be here under "Fast Five (film)," and "Fast Five" should be a disambiguation page. However, if the problem is that the disambiguation page is being vandalized, the solution is not to create an article that doesn't meet notability--it's to defend the disambiguation from vandalizing (possibly through some level of protection, depending on who's vandalizing). Qwyrxian (talk) 13:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I will request "semi-protection" for the Fast Five page as it exists now, to prevent anonymous edits. The initial problem that motivated this change was anonymous IP users inserting random movie factoids into a page called Fast Five. Fast Five originally linked to the section of the "Fast and the Furious article" which was where the upcoming movie existed. Principal photograpy has commenced as of July 2010, so the section really does qualify for an article (principal photography is one of the WP:NFF tests). (You can join the debate at the AfD discussion) rhyre (talk) 15:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Is Lucas Black even confirmed for the film? I haven't heard a thing about his involvement in the film, if i'm wrong I apologize. Unless we have concrete proof like a tweet from him or a set photo, I think we should keep him off of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Florez411 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Significant removals

I just removed three long sections from the article. Please know that I'm not trying to influence the deletion discussion; even if the article is kept, I am certain those sections had absolutely nothing to do with the film or the production. The first section I deleted was about some sort of Green viral advertising campaign or contest; the second was about increasing green energy in Puerto Rico; and the third was about the goal of the government to improve the PR film industry (that did not mention Fast Five). If someone else has a reason why those are relevant (and can include that info in the article itself), please feel free to re-add and explain here. I don't know if someone is just randomly moving things around, or if someone's trying to give substance to this article where there is none, or what's happening. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I have completed edits to add a reliable, published reference (Variety), and removed the redundant cast details (they are, and should remain, in the infobox). Please don't re-add them. I will request temporary semi-protection for the article, so that anonymous edits aren't allowed. (Unless someone explains here why that's a bad idea.), If you want to discuss the article's proposed deletion, click HERE to do so. rhyre (talk) 15:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Han Lue is dead

IS there any official source that Sung Kang is coming back to play Han because IMDB is not a reliable source when it comes to whos playing who unless a reliable source is shown I'm rermoving him from the cast list Ghost07 (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

You can catch the brothers here. [1] 72.216.52.63 (talk) 22:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Confusing statement

"...the sixth and final installment of the series is also being developed, but both films will not be shot back-to-back."
Does the first part refer to the sixth installment, which will be the last, or the sixth installment and the seventh/final installment? Does "both films" refer to Fast Five and the sixth installment? If so, then it probably shouldn't be noted if they weren't produced back-to-back. Also, the whole section is unsourced. --Boycool (talk) 19:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

It was removed. It seems people still don't understand that the Wikipedia requires sources. —Mike Allen 02:37, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually there are sources now that Fast 5 is a success. Sources seem to indicate they waited to see how the movie would do before continuing with another to the series. Fast "6" is slated to be the next installment and Fast "7" will most likely be a spin-off with Dwayne Johnson. Also there is no confirmation on any final installment as of yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.252.132 (talk) 11:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Ford GT40

Is the Ford GT40 shown in the Fast Five film a road car or a replica? WKB(talk here/This is not Facebook nor Malaysia) 09:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Leticia "Letty" Ortiz is not Dom's Ex-Girlfriend.

Cast Section notes Letty as Dom's ex-girlfriend during description of her being indcated as still alive and returning for Fast Six. This is false/ incorrect because death does not denounce your releationship with a person. After death, married couples or long time partners generally do not describe the deceased as their ex-wife, ex husband or partner. Letty and Dom were a long time couple when at the time of her death. Noting Letty as Dom's ex-girlfriend indicates that the two broke up before she died, which never took place in any of the films. Revision should be made on the false notion in cast section.

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http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0004176/bio----

Letty is Dom's daredevil girlfriend/ partner in crime. Together they form a "Bonnie and Clyde" relationship, which might not seem like it, but is actaully filled with an immense amount of love for one another. Throughout The Fast and Furious and Fast and Furious she continues to prove just how fearless and in love with Dom she is, even though it ends up costing her her life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.242.107.91 (talk) 17:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Depends on how you want to view Dom's relationship with Elena Neves

Letty Ortiz "Plot Summary" Corrected

Leticia "Letty" Ortiz was incorrectly linked to the page of a princess of another country. I correctly linked to the "character's page" in the Fast and the Furious series.

68.60.60.117 (talk) 20:19, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the contribution. In the future, when editing, there is a little box above the "Save" button where you can say what you have done so you don't need to post it on the Talk page. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

The Cast section

I'm just wondering why the Cast section is tagged as needing additional references. It doesn't have any references at all, and cast sections usually don't because the film references itself on that (just like plot information). Exactly what needs to be sourced in this section? Flyer22 (talk) 14:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

While I don't know why it was put there, if you want an article to be rated as a good article or better, it should have sources that backup that these are the cast, even if it is obvious.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Darkwarriorblake. You've done good work on this article. But, actually, the cast section for film articles here at Wikipedia are usually never sourced, and they still make it to GA (Good Article) status. And in the past, they would make it to FA (Featured Article) status that way. They are often sourced early on, before the film is released, yes, but usually not after the film has been released (because who is in the film is out there by then). Flyer22 (talk) 14:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it was here before the film came out, I only started providing input after its release. I'm basing my information mostly on articles like The Incredible Hulk (film) where the film has been released but the sources are used to describe the development of the characters. It doesn't HAVE to go there mind you, but there will need to be a casting section made that details how people were brought onto the film, etc. But it is possible that tag has been there a while which is why it did require sources.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

It's possible the tag was added because it used to look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=424874316&oldid=424862161 which has lots of character details but no sources for them. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Here you go, it was added here: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=425742035&oldid=425741314 so you could ask BoyCool why he added it Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking it was added early on too, as that made the most sense to me. I definitely understand about the type of casting information you speak of needing to be sourced. Of course Casting sections (information about why people were cast, etc.) are usually sourced. I was only speaking of simple Cast sections (consisting of only a list of the actors/characters). I think I understand why BoyCool added the tag. It doesn't seem needed anymore, though. Flyer22 (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I added the tag when there were excessive plot details for each character (something that's caused edit wars for me in the past), but it's been trimmed down since then. The only thing I would suggest getting a source for now, other than casting info, etc., would be for Letty and Monica in the post-credits scene, which wasn't credited in the movie. I really wouldn't oppose removing the tag now. --Boycool (talk) 21:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing up why you added the tag, Boycool. Your reasons for having done so are definitely understandable. I'll go ahead and remove the tag. Flyer22 (talk) 22:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)