Talk:Shannon Airport

I am tempted to move this to Shannon Airport, since that seems to be a much more common name. Objections? -- Sekicho 17:45, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)

I agree. Zoney 18:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Bush's Visit in June 04

Anybody following this? The Gardai are banning people from outside shannon from coming to protest. They have given out passes to residents and recorded car number plates. They have also gone door to door asking people's views on Bush and whether they intend to protest. Very police-stateish. Seabhcan 11:33, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Flying boats at Rineanna

Surely the historical use of the Shannon Estuary for flying boats should be mentioned. Does anybody know about it? --Red King 00:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

The flying boats were at Foynes. Rineanna was always used for ordinary planes. Seabhcán 07:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for update. Confusion removed. --Red King 09:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

US Immigration at Shannon

When did this start? What are its conditions of operation? Legal/Diplomatic status? Are there any other airports world-wide with the same facility? Do US-INS staff regard it as an award posting or a punishment posting? What is the extent of non-Irish use? (I met someone from Edinburgh who found she got a far better and less hasslesome deal by flying to the US via Shannon rather than via Heathrow. She especially appreciated being able to walk past the three hour lines at JFK. --Red King 09:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Started in 1986. "In 1986 a US Immigration pre-clearance facility was opened at Shannon, thus cutting down on the time spent queueing on arrival in the United States." From Here [1] I got the folllowing list of pre-clearence points:

• Calgary International Airport
• Edmonton International Airport
• Montreal Trudeau International Airport
• Ottawa MacDonald-Cartier International Airport
• Lester B. Pearson International Airport
• Vancouver International Airport
• Victoria Preclearance (port)
• Winnipeg International Airport
• Bahamas - Freeport Preclearance
• Bahamas - Nassau Preclearance
• Bermuda Preclearance
• Aruba Preclearance
• Shannon Airport
• Dublin International Airport

Seabhcán 10:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Is it worth noting in the article, or is it no longer of significance? --Red King 12:09, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

I added a line about it to the top of this article and to Dublin Airport. Seabhcán 12:23, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Judge Macken verdict?

The article says that Judge Macken "is due to give a judgement in April/May 2005". Any update? --Red King 21:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Judgement due 9 Dec 2005, delay probably due to Judge Macken's appointment to the Supreme Court. See main article which has been updated. Dowlingm 23:26, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Judgement re-scheduled in the last minute (again!) to Tuesday, December 13. Once it's made public I can contribute to a few articles here on Irish foreign policy, Shannon Airport, Irish law, and the so-called "war on terrorism".

Objectivity of "Foreign military aircraft at Shannon" section

The "Forign military at Shannon" section seems rather one sided and opinionated. It would be more apt for an encyclopedia reporting facts, to do just that and report all facts relevant to an issue.

I agree, infact the whole article seems to be mainly about the US military

This is just one section, and an important one, because it reports serious issues that relate to Irish neutrality, which is very close to being a constitutional issue. Shannon is a major stop-over for US Military personnel en route to a war zone and so-called 'extraordinary rendition' is a serious breach of Irish laws on Human Rights. So, rather than merely assert that the section is 'one sided and opinionated', why not propose changes that would redress the balance. It has not been obvious to other editors that anything other than bare facts are being reported. --Red King 00:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Main Transatlantic Airport In Ireland?

• Is Dublin Airport not busier in terms of transatlantic flights, it also has more transatlantic routes.Jvlm.123 15:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Article rework

This article was in need of a rework and I have made a start on this today. Some text has been amended to ensure neutral point of view, non-encyclopedic content has been removed and trivia items have been integrated into appropriate sections of the article itself. The lead section contained too much information which was already contained in the article itself and has been moved / removed appropriately. Please feel free to continue to improve this article with your own edits. Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 19:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Former airlines

I accept that the list may have been too long, and the option unrealistic for other airports but could the list perhaps be represented in paragraph form, or similar, as there are some points to be made from it (especially with regard to decline in status).

Airlines and routes previously serviced at Shannon

• AB Airlines (London-Gatwick), folded and ceased operation in 1999
• Aer Arann (Dublin,Leeds-Bradford)
• Aer Lingus (Baltimore,Belfast-International, Dublin, Toronto,Chicago, Paris Charles de Gaulle)
• Aeroflot (Moscow-Sheremetyevo, New York-JFK, Havana, Mexico City, Lima, Miami, Chicago-O'Hare)
• Air Canada (Toronto-Pearson)
• Air France (Paris Charles de Gaulle)
• Alitalia
• American Airlines (Boston, Chicago-O'Hare)
• Belavia (Minsk)
• BOAC
• British Airways (Manchester)
• Cargolux
• Condor (Frankfurt, Munich)
• Cubana De Aviacion (Havana)
• EirJet Irish Charter operator folded October 2006
• EUjet (Parent company, Planestation, folded in July 2005)
• easyJet (London-Gatwick), ceased Irish operation in October 2006
• FlyLAL Served (Vilinius) For six months
• Flybe (Birmingham, Edinburgh, Glasgow-International)
• Flyglobespan (Toronto YHM)
• Hapag-Lloyd Express (now TUIfly) for six months in 2005.
• Lufthansa
• Northwest Airlines
• Pakistan International Airlines (fuelling stop on routes between Pakistan and New York)
• Pan Am (Folded in 1991)
• Royal Jordanian (fuel stop)
• Ryanair (Alicante, Birmingham, Bournemouth, Brussels South Charleroi, Carcassonnne, Dublin, Edinburugh, Faro, Frankfurt Hahn, Girona, Glasgow-Prestwick, Hamburg-Lubeck, Krakow, Lanzarote, Lodz, Manchester, Milan-Orio al Serio, Paris-Beauvais, Stockholm-Skavsta, Rome-Ciampino, Venice-Treviso, Weeze)
• Sabena
• Skynet Airlines (Folded in 2004)
• TWA (New York-JFK, Tel Aviv)
• Virgin Express (Served London-Gatwick and Brussels Airport)

Name in Irish

There are three different spellings for the Irish name of Shannon Airport. The infobox spells it as Aerfort na Sionnainne. The logo spells it as Aerfort na Sionainne. And the first line of the article says it is Aerfort na Sionna. So does anybody know which is it?? 86.43.67.204 (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Shamrock Express

I believe flights by Shamrock Express to Lansing are charters rather than scheduled flights. Does anyone have any source to suggest otherwise ? Pmbma (talk) 19:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma

Do the flights even exist? From this message board it appears to be just talk.--A bit iffy (talk) 07:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think they do exist, but I'm not certain on this - I just reverted the WP entry back to the previous status of charter when someone changed in to scheduled.

I removed Shamrock express. This is a tour company that comes along and says they are going to offer service to Shannon beginning Summer 08. In March 08 they cancel saying they hope to begin service the following year. Their website is still under construction[2] (1 year later). There does not appear to be much information about Kenny Tours on the internet, there does not appear to be much information about Shamrock Express on the internet. It seems like they also tried to start service out of Niagara Falls but that also did not work out. --T*85 (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the removal. The more I look at this, there more I think that Shamrock Express was no more than an unfulfilled wish. It doesn't belong in the article. Also, for completeness, I'm moving to here ("Shannon Airport - Shamrock Express" below) some additional discussion from another talk page.--A bit iffy (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Shannon Airport - Shamrock Express

The discussion below was on User talk:88.81.104.106 but I have moved it here because it is a more appropriate place.--A bit iffy (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Does Shamrock Express really offer scheduled flights to Shannon, as opposed to charter flights ? Just because a flight-only package can be purchased from an airline does not make it a scheduled flight. Do you have a source for this ? Pmbma (talk) 18:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma

What I heard from my relatives, is that it will be a scheduled 2 or 3 flights a week service operated for the summer months.

I do not wish to doubt on anything your relatives have said - it is entirely possible that they are 100% correct. However, for information to be on wikipedia, it needs not only to be correct, but also to be independently verifiable by a 3rd party. If it's not verifiable, it shouldn't be on wikipedia. Pmbma (talk) 19:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

Resolved

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85.201.128.95 (talk) 20:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Delta SNN-JFK route

I know that this route was operated seasonally for a while now but is this route ending indefintely or is it still operating seasonally? 74.183.173.237 (talk) 22:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Volga-Dnepr

What heading should the fact that Volga-Dnepr Airlines have a maintenace facility here go under? ShaneMc2010 (talk) 21:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I would put it under Facilities and with a sub heading (Maintence Facilities). Jamie2k9 (talk) 22:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

History needs clarification

The article says "The first Air Services Agreement with the United States in 1945 only permitted flights to Shannon, and only permitted Irish airlines to serve Boston, Chicago and New York." I guess he meant US airlines were allowed at Shannon but not elsewhere in Ireland, and Irish airlines were allowed at Boston-Chicago-NY but not elsewhere in the US? As it stands, it could mean US airlines weren't allowed to fly from SNN to BOS etc. Tim Zukas (talk) 16:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Another tidbit: 1950s transatlantic flights were sometimes scheduled to stop at SNN for fuel, but not for passengers-- and with favorable winds they might be able to skip SNN. It seems that such a flight wasn't allowed to use Irish airspace at all. Anybody else heard of that? Tim Zukas (talk) 16:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)