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There is ample precedent for articles on the next election, even when the date isn't set in stone - see Category:Future elections and individual cases such as Next Queensland state election. The article needs expanding to outline the main features, particularly the boundary changes that will take effect but should be expanded, not prodded when it's barely been born. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Images

3 images were removed by another editor for copyright reasons. I have removed the last remaining one to ensure that there is no bias during the election period. I would suggest that unless images are found for ALL party leaders, then none should be published. --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the election's over and we've lengthened the template with maps, I think it would look cleaner with no photos until we can get at least four or five, especially since (in my opinion) some of the free-use ones we're using are not that good, and Martin McGuinness's picture should really be in place of Gerry Adams' (see discussion below). —— Shakescene (talk) 20:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the leaders' images down to a separate photo gallery at Northern Ireland Assembly election, 2011#Party leaders; this allows them to be displayed bigger while collapsing the template to something that can be grasped at a single glance. If we get better free images at small scale for Robinson, Ritchie and Adams/McGuinness, plus ones for the UUP, Alliance and TUV leaders, then we might be able to restore them to the template. —— Shakescene (talk) 02:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sinn Fein leader

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to class Martin McGuinness as Sinn Fein's leader? Gerry Adams may be the party's president but he's not even a member of the Northern Ireland Assembly anymore and Martin McGuinnessis Sinn Feins Assembly leader.--152.78.165.24 (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree; when you're talking about an actual parliament, "leader" is usually taken to mean the leader of the party's parliamentary caucus (and theoretical prime minister or leader of the opposition). Even in a presidential/congressional system, the article about the United States House of Representatives elections, 2010 lists Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker, as leader of the Democrats, rather than President Barack Obama or Tim Kaine (who was Chairman of the Democratic National Committee in 2010). ¶ For the parties which sent no members to either the outgoing or the incoming Assemblies, it's a little trickier, especially for all-Ireland parties like the Workers' Party, the Socialist Party of Ireland or People Before Profit. But "N/A" seems a little out of place; surely they had spokes(wo)men during the campaign, or at least a solitary candidate. —— Shakescene (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would not agree. If this route is taken, then the template for the Northern Ireland Assembly would need to be amended from 'Leader' to something like 'Assembly Party Leader'.--Gavin Lisburn (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There needs to be a more general discussion about who goes in the boxes as there are a lot of elections around the world where the positions of party leader, parliamentary leader and "candidate for Leading Minister" are split. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion opened at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums#Who should be listed as a party's leader?. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Still a Stub?

This is rated as "Stub class" above, which is how most election articles begin before a campaign has fully begun. But now I think that whatever its deficiencies might be, this article can no longer be considered a stub. —— Shakescene (talk) 22:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Party short names

Party short names are used in all similar articles; please don't make up different short names for this article! If you find any of the short names are confusing, you can propose changes on the relevant template talk page - e.g. {{UK Independence Party/meta/shortname}} for UKIP, etc. Warofdreams talk 09:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 This is rated as "Stub class" above, which is how most election articles begin before a campaign has fully begun. But now I think that whatever its deficiencies might be, this article can no longer be considered a stub. [[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]]) 22:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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+Party short names are used in all similar articles; please don't make up different short names for this article!  If you find any of the short names are confusing, you can propose changes on the relevant template talk page - e.g. {{tl|UK Independence Party/meta/shortname}} for UKIP, etc. [[User:Warofdreams|Warofdreams]] ''[[User talk:Warofdreams|talk]]'' 09:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)