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:Looking over this article for the first time now, I see the lead as the article's main problem. Some editor(s) have politicized it with their opposition to skin whitening to the point that the lead doesn't even reflect the body of the article. Added [[Template:POV-lead]] – [[User:RVJ|RVJ]] ([[User talk:RVJ|talk]]) 21:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC) |
:Looking over this article for the first time now, I see the lead as the article's main problem. Some editor(s) have politicized it with their opposition to skin whitening to the point that the lead doesn't even reflect the body of the article. Added [[Template:POV-lead]] – [[User:RVJ|RVJ]] ([[User talk:RVJ|talk]]) 21:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC) |
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I moved the "controversial" part in the opening paragraph to a new "Controversy" section and removed the NPOV tag. Hopefully it is more appropriate now. Cecikierk 14:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)Cecikierk |
Revision as of 14:11, 9 May 2011
Why no Glutathione
Why is there no reference to glutathione in this article on skin whitening. Glutathione is very commonly used for this purpose, and pretty effective. Suggest those interested in maintaining this do their research on glutathione. For the moment, I have included a one-line entry in this article to address this deficit. I have not provided reference for appropriate dosage and to scholarly articles. Check this link or some general info: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060710061329AA6tqsZ
Suggest someone improves my glutathione entry.
Hope this helps make the overall article better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgao (talk • contribs) 22:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikified, NPOV, copyedit, etc etc
I've done a major re-edit of this page for all these factors. I still think it's probably too biased but don't really know enough about the technical research to prove it. More information on over-the-counter whitening treatments and the history and controversy of skin whitening would be very useful, I think. -- TinaSparkle 19:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Removed irrelevent info
I removed the section on Bobby Brown because the opinions of one fashion designer is not really relevant to a scientific article. This is an encyclopedia, not a women's magazine. Just.James 11:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
{{mergefrom|Latin AMerica}}
I change "Latin America" to "parts of Latin America", because there are many places such as Argentina or uruguay where there are no dark-skinned populations and hence these products are not used. There are not blacks like in the US or Dominican Republic or natives like in Mexico. I've studied dermatology in Argentina and in fact, it's very difficult to find these kind of products there.
I changed it for "parts of the AmericaS" so it includes the United states where this is quite common is dark skinned people. And at the same time exclude countries and zones where this is not common at all.
{{mergefrom|Colonial mentality}}
I'm moving this tag here. I can't see any benefit in such a merge. Whitening has be done since well before the colonial period.
- You're right. But because, as you say, it's been done since well before the colonial period, perhaps the 3 or 4 paragraphs in that article that talk exclusively about skin whitening should be removed? As another example, Thai people are crazy about white-skin and, as they love to point out, they've never been colonized! Isn't it just a desire not to look "poor" e.g. like all the farmers and laborers and others who spend all day in the sun. Once those folks get factory jobs and their skin lightens up, it's my guess that everyone will want to be black! Although the Japanese mostly still love white skin (not accounting for Gangurro) -- why is this? Ewlyahoocom 18:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.55.194 (talk) 20:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC) well you just answered your own question
I don't want to start a debate here but Argentina does have a large mixed indian and white population as well as many dark people, as well as blacks. I don't think it is only blacks who use skin lightners, my experience has been it is meztitos who use it the most as to try to get their skin white —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.27.30 (talk) 21:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
See also: Michael Jackson?
Michael is mentioned in no other place in this article.
- I agree, we must remove him from this article. Λua∫Wise (talk) 20:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
In later years of his life, Michael Jackson claimed to been struck by a skin pigmentation disorder known as vitiligo universalis to made him very light in skin tone. It is not entirely clear the skin whitening effect was done by artificial methods to make himself "White" or he had a very rare disorder to (finally) been diagnosed on a celebrity person. His racial and gender appearance issues made media headlines, but that strays from the topic (which is on skin whitening). Mike D 26 (talk) 09:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Body Parts
I think this article should point skin whitening effects on parts other than the skin. I've read about that people get blind by using skin whitening products to (try to) get lighter eye colors. I think this should be pointed out. What do you think? --SangeYasha 07:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Glutathione
Glutathione is an effective skin whitener if taken in sufficient dosage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drgao (talk • contribs) 22:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Genetic defects mercury based whitener
I read that some villages in china where mercury based whiteners are used, the genetic defects can be severe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.48.28 (talk) 19:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Why is the controversiality of Skin Whitening products needing citation
Skin whitening is certainly tied to white supremacy and colonialism. But just so we can move on and get rid of the "citation needed" ill cite it and give the statement even more strength to new readers than it otherwise would have had. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.40.153.116 (talk) 04:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- There was an episode on the Oprah Winfrey Show (or Oprah) on her take on skin whitening continues to be practiced, in one surprising segment of the U.S. population: African-American actors, athletes and others in the public eye, and Oprah suggests the "shameful" trend of skin whitening is to "hide ones' self, esp. ourselves" of African-Americans in public social circles in the name of cultural conformity to declare "black is unsightedly". Oprah endorsed a movie For Colored Girls takes place in the mid 1960s, a story about African-American teen girls striving for both feminine beauty, women's rights issues (feminism) and they fought strong racism at the time. Whoopi Goldberg and Janet Jackson starred in the movie and discussed the impact of racism and beauty pressure leads to dangerous results of the image of African-Americans and women in the public eye. Mike D 26 (talk) 09:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Original IP user, your remark is nonsense and makes you class-A racist. How is it "white supremacy" and "colonialism"? Only because you were either brought up in a racist family or peer-hood doesn't make your view of the world so. A lot of people consider light skin beautiful, just like a lot of people consider tanned skin beautiful or naturally brown skin or dark skin beautiful. So all the people who go out and damage their skin in the sun to be "beautiful" are OK, but people who damage their skin to lighten it to be "beautiful" are closet racists? wow! You are what is wrong with society. 27.33.143.93 (talk) 06:10, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Plagiarism
The section on topical treatments sounds almost word-for-word like works written by Paula Begoun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.1.251 (talk) 11:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Moved Comment
Moved this comment from the article. Perhaps the author could explain what they mean on the talk page rather than in the article.
" this section is partially wrong.. Check the facts and make some corrections. I've been doing research on these ingredients for 3 years and your paragraph is a little off.
Yeah a bit wrong "
67.236.118.227 (talk) 18:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Countries where there are strict regulations governing the cosmetics industry
The article reads "countries where there are strict regulations governing the cosmetics industry, as in the UK, Europe and USA". Now, every third grader knows that Europe is actually a continent and not a country, and then again if the European Union is what the article means, the UK is part of it. So shouldn't it be edited? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.82.106 (talk) 15:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Article is rubbish
This whole article needs major fixing as it is not NPOV and heavily biased and seems to be governed or written by those suffering from some sort of issue with their own climatic heritage. There is no information relating to people wanting to even out their complexion etc, or even that it is done for beauty reasons similar to suntanning. In contrast the suntanning article is completely broad and neutral in its information. This article is rubbish, and so are the peoples minds who wrote it. 27.33.143.93 (talk) 06:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looking over this article for the first time now, I see the lead as the article's main problem. Some editor(s) have politicized it with their opposition to skin whitening to the point that the lead doesn't even reflect the body of the article. Added Template:POV-lead – RVJ (talk) 21:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
New section
I moved the "controversial" part in the opening paragraph to a new "Controversy" section and removed the NPOV tag. Hopefully it is more appropriate now. Cecikierk 14:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)Cecikierk