Talk:Al Sharpton

Archive 1 (Sep-2003 – Apr-2007)

Archive 2 (Apr-2007 – Dec-2008)

Age of ordination

According to this news article, some other online encyclopaedia has a different age for when Sharpton was ordained. I wouldn't bet that wikipedia is the one in error, but it never hurts to check. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 11:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

According to Sharpton, he was ordained at age 9. [1] [2] The biography at his National Action Network is a little vague ("began his ministry at the tender age of four ... Five years later, ... licensed his protégé to be a minister"). [3] Other sources, including Britannica and the biography at his speaker's bureau (I think it's his speaker's bureau), say age 10. [4] [5] I think we should say nine or ten and include two appropriate sources. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 19:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I suspect it's both variants of "in 1964". If anyone has access to a copy of Go and Tell Pharaoh, that would probably give a date, or at least something more precise... Shimgray | talk | 12:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

"Denounced by schoolkids"

I have reverted this addition, after it was already reverted once: "In March 2009 Sharpton was denounced by a group of high school students from Bob Wood's Alabama civil rights travel group for standing them up at a scheduled speech in a Selma church. Sharpton would later state that the church had "been misled." [6].

The source for this was a local newspaper, the Montgomery Advertiser. The exact wording is: "The Rev. Al Sharpton, a controversial New York activist, didn't win any points with the group for his "no show" at Selma's Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church where hundreds of people waited to hear him speak. Sharpton claimed later that church officials had been "misled" about his appearance. He said he never intended to speak at Tabernacle. The kids from Oakridge High School weren't buying it. Corey Swanson wrote in his blog that he and his classmates "were rudely stood up" by the minister and said Sharpton had gained the "nomination as my least favorite civil rights activist."".

There is more detail in this article, which makes it clear that it was an invitation that was not confirmed, and that Sharpton spoke somewhere elsewhere nearby that day: ""I was invited, but I told them on Wednesday that we were asked to be at Brown Chapel and that's where I was," said Sharpton, who added that Tabernacle members had been "misled." He said Holder planned to "make a commitment" to civil rights, "so I wasn't going to disrespect that request."".

So he was never going to speak to them specifically and he denies having been scheduled to speak. This is a very minor event. Bob Wood and this group of students are not notable, so why refer to them in this article? Fences and windows (talk) 22:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Weight loss? MJ?

Sharpton appears much lighter now, any reason: health issue? New lifestyle? Also, he was apparently close to Michael Jackson --he's on tv about it all te time now. These would be useful additions. --166.205.4.27 (talk) 02:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Indirect familial relation to Strom Thurmond

This paragraph is incomplete. It doesn't specifically outline how Sharpton is related to Strom Thurmond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.98.31 (talk) 11:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

How else do you think he is related? Strom's ancestor(s) (As well as Strom, "Mr. Solid South", himself,) raped one, or several of Al's enslaved female ancestors!!! However, given Thurmonds's age, circumscribing THREE CENTURIES, he probably raped several succesive generations of Al's women-folk. Yet another "creative" version of willful southern "inbreeding" When Sharpton became publically known outside NYC (he was for decades earlier in the FBI's files, of which I suspect that Thurmond knew of him before then, given his special access to govenment files,) the old piker, fart-child rapist must have howled with satanic laughter that the descendant of one of his "bastard whelps" became a black activist. (And before you, or anyone else start with the infantile objections, all this is in the public record, just a click and a scroll away!!! Added to this, know that the alphabet soup of US, "unratified" federal police agencies have coludeded with southern and mid-western (Mornmon) ancester-tracking organizations; indeed , many of the former overlap with the feds. Just as the WASPs across the Pond has ever done since the Domesday Book. Rebuttal, anyone? And by opposing response I do not mean trying to lock out my privileges here. They are illegal and I will take appropriate actions henceforth! --24.46.103.28 (talk) 03:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Veryverser

T.V Shows

On September 30th, Al Sharpton will become the guest host of WWE's "Monday Night RAW," where he will become the General Manager for the night. Gibsonj338 (talk) 00:18, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

marriage

is al shapton still married or is he divorced —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.34.246.80 (talk) 01:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

question

just a question, maybe i missed it in the article, since he is a minister/reverend, is he affiliated with a church? what i mean is what church does he preach at? i couldnt find it in the article, maybe he doesnt i dont know, but thats what i was trying to find out, where does he preach on sundays usually. i was just curious, but it doesnt seem to be in the article. thanks in advance if anyone knows or can point me in the right direction. have a nice day! Mackdiesel5 (talk) 08:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't think Sharpton preaches at a specific church every Sunday. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 00:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

me either, i looked around some more and couldnt find anything. thanks for the reply. MACKDIESEL5 (talk) 00:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

He is what we call here in the U.S. a Minister-Without-Pulpit (perrenial itinterant); just like Jesse Jackson! The two always have been. Now, what should that tell you? --24.46.103.28 (talk) 03:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Veryverser

FBI Cocaine Deal

I don't see any information about the FBI cocaine deal tape Sharpton was on. Nor do I see any information about him wearing a wire for the FBI. I think these are significant omissions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki3655 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree. This should definately be added! Bill Heller (talk) 10:34, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Any actual proof of ordination?

Can anyone just call himself a "Reverend"? What church recognizes his status as a Reverend? What are his credentials? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.167.164.240 (talk) 05:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Have you read the article? See Al Sharpton#Religion. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

We should remove the controversy section

Wikipedia articles about living people are not supposed to have a controversy section as these are just a magnet for any negative citation folks can find to drag someone's name through mud. This violates WP:NPV and WP:BLP, especially when each controversy has a headline to draw as much as attention to it as possible. Any controversy should be merged into the relevant section of the article, not given their own section. Mixaphone (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Omitted Items (Redux)

(I would appreciate it if my queries [yes, that what they are] weren't tampered with as I do believe that it is in violation with WIKPEDIA'S policy.(If one can't get stand scathing questions to which one seeks answers, then please GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF HONEST RESERCH!!! Thankyouverymuch!)

Wasn't there, in an earlier version of this article a statement that Al Sharpton-when a youth-was first introduced to street politics and organizing by THE REVOLUTIONARY YOUTH MOVEMENT (RYM)? As I recalled, the RYM was an arm of the U.S. Labor Party headed by Lyndon Larouche. Interesting that Larouche who years ago was involved in NYC politics through his proxy cnadidates running for local office right into the 80s never mentioned Sharpton, or his (alleged)affiliation with RYM. Indeed, it would seem that Larouche, et al conviently "forgot" about this, whether any of them knew Sharpton personally or not! I cannot imagine how they could have not run into him in those "bad ol' days" of street-fighting the Commie Party, USA. Anyone out there who were once RYM members or organizers remember anything of Rev. Al's involvement? Please contribute. It is also curious how the media, even African American journalists failed to mention that the original arbitors of the forced eviction efforts of Freddies was its landords, a black Pentacostal Church!!!??? Nothing of this was ever mentioned by the press. And Sharpton never gave a clue to the public. Amazing. So, it is true the allegations of Sharpton being and agent provocateur. There are more inconsistancies, like his perfidy of the United African Movement and betrayal of Alton Maddox. Now, Rev. Al is cozy with Obama and the New York County District Attorney's office? --24.46.103.28 (talk) 03:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Veryverser

You Know What's Amazing...

Is that there aren't more comments and contributions to this article in the "Talk Section". but, given my very recent experience with illegal, self-appointed censors (among other things,) why be surprised? One person put a question about Alfred controversial activities concerning the "Freddies Mart" case, and the terrorist action that led to several employees of the establishment killed in the fire. I responded to this for clarifcation. Later his edited section and my response were deleted. I give here again my thoughts.

Indeed, sir. reliable sources including an earlier version of this this very article corraborating info I and many others have received over the years since the "incident" concerning the case of Freddie's Mart's landlord, who was never cited by Sharpton! As for Rev. Al's perfidy concerning the UAM and Alton Maddox, who it must be strenuously reiterated rescued Alfred from the wrath of Morganthau, the New York State Attorney time and again, as well as the New York State Attorney Office! As for the statement of Sharpton's affiliation with Larouche (aka Lyn Marcus's) "Revolutionary Youth Movement", although I heard that the former had been involved in the mid-70s with a predomiately African-American youth movement performing street organizing and canvasing in NYC, I didn't know the name of it until an earlier version of this very same article stated the name of it. (That earlier iteration seems to all purposes now omitted from viewing unless the author decides to put these item back in. I also noticed that there are many facts added to the present article; others understandbly taken out.) Rev. Al doesn't make reference to this affiliation in any detail in his auto-bio, but that is his and his editors privelge of discrecton in such tomes: What is not said is left for others to investigate. What his involvement with RYM is something that the Good Reverend, the F.B.I. as well as other police agencies scrutinizing Al for the past 35-yrs, LaRouche,et al, and perhaps some of the surviving members of RYM to attest. Yes, I agree with you that this is information warfare, by any other name. When has it not ever been so? --24.46.103.28 (talk) 04:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)Veryverser