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:I've seen lots of tribal boasting but there seem to be some subjects in this list with a claim of notability (federal Ministers, senators, and possibly Generals depending on their military structure). I'm not saying that the whole list is full of notable people but at least a portion of them need examined. As for not having coverage on WP, again, that doesn't mean anything. Per [[WP:NOTESAL]], not everyone in lists of notable people have to have an article. I'd give [[List of Ohio State University people]] as an example but I'm not sure that listing other pages really means anything per [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]]. While the edits may not be formatted to your liking (I agree, they're not pretty), that doesn't mean they should be deleted. This project isn't finished and poorly formatted information shouldn't be removed for that reason alone.
:I've seen lots of tribal boasting but there seem to be some subjects in this list with a claim of notability (federal Ministers, senators, and possibly Generals depending on their military structure). I'm not saying that the whole list is full of notable people but at least a portion of them need examined. As for not having coverage on WP, again, that doesn't mean anything. Per [[WP:NOTESAL]], not everyone in lists of notable people have to have an article. I'd give [[List of Ohio State University people]] as an example but I'm not sure that listing other pages really means anything per [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]]. While the edits may not be formatted to your liking (I agree, they're not pretty), that doesn't mean they should be deleted. This project isn't finished and poorly formatted information shouldn't be removed for that reason alone.
:Here's my proposal, because I'm not willing to go through the list one by one to determine notability, because I don't think it's fair to require you to, and to discourage anons from boasting, how about we move the list to the talk page for someone to go over in the future. [[User:OlYeller21|<font style="color:#827839;">Ol<font style="color:#FBB117;">Yeller</font></font>]]'''<sup>[[User_talk:OlYeller21|<font style="color:#827839;">Talktome</font>]]</sup> 16:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:Here's my proposal, because I'm not willing to go through the list one by one to determine notability, because I don't think it's fair to require you to, and to discourage anons from boasting, how about we move the list to the talk page for someone to go over in the future. [[User:OlYeller21|<font style="color:#827839;">Ol<font style="color:#FBB117;">Yeller</font></font>]]'''<sup>[[User_talk:OlYeller21|<font style="color:#827839;">Talktome</font>]]</sup> 16:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
::Good idea. [[User:JohnCengiz77|<font color="green">John Cengiz</font>]] [[User talk:JohnCengiz77|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 17:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

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Problem with lead

Why is the term "Niazi" (the subject of this article) not mentioned in the lead at all? Badagnani (talk) 02:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Language(s)

Removing the language(s) the Niazi speak doesn't seem to be a good idea. Badagnani (talk) 05:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Iqbalniazi (talkcontribs) 21:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC) which language? pashto? i speak pashto. we are niazi's from kohat. our whole village speaks pushto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.158.120.17 (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verification and general accessiblity

History of Niazi Clan and Pathan's can be sourced from the following books:

The Pathans – 550 BC - AD 1957 by Sir Olaf Caroe, 1958, Macmillan Company ,Reprinted Oxford University Press, 2003

The Hisotry of the Great Mougouls, Pringle Kenndey

Gazetter of the Mianwali district 1915 by Sang-e-Meel Publications, Lahore, Pakistan

Tareekh-e-Niazi Qabail

Tareekh-e-Alvi Awan

Wichara Watan By Harish Chander Nakra, New Delhi, India --KhanAsfandeyar (talk) 17:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Members

JohnCengiz77 (talk · contribs) removed a large chunk of content from the Notable People section in this article. I undid his revision as there are several Generals, Federal Ministers, and Senators listed that he removed. JohnCengiz77 then reverted my edit stating that "Niazi's with an article are listed, otherwise they aren't notable." This simply isn't how WP works. Not having an article doesn't imply that a subject is not notable just like having an article doesn't imply notability. I believe this to be the basic concept of WP:OTHERSTUFF. John, do you have any counter argument? OlYellerTalktome 15:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The edits made by 86.23.59.8 (talk · contribs) are very poorly written, unwikified, and mostly lack notability. Every now and again, a user will make these unhelpful edits, also tribal boasting too. If someone has no coverage on any wikipedia article, they are not going to be included in a list of people sharing a name on wikipedia. John Cengiz talk 16:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen lots of tribal boasting but there seem to be some subjects in this list with a claim of notability (federal Ministers, senators, and possibly Generals depending on their military structure). I'm not saying that the whole list is full of notable people but at least a portion of them need examined. As for not having coverage on WP, again, that doesn't mean anything. Per WP:NOTESAL, not everyone in lists of notable people have to have an article. I'd give List of Ohio State University people as an example but I'm not sure that listing other pages really means anything per WP:OTHERSTUFF. While the edits may not be formatted to your liking (I agree, they're not pretty), that doesn't mean they should be deleted. This project isn't finished and poorly formatted information shouldn't be removed for that reason alone.
Here's my proposal, because I'm not willing to go through the list one by one to determine notability, because I don't think it's fair to require you to, and to discourage anons from boasting, how about we move the list to the talk page for someone to go over in the future. OlYellerTalktome 16:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. John Cengiz talk 17:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]