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May 27

I am a somewhat experience editor

considering posting a story in a local newspaper (which can't be viewed on line) on the Signpost, but can't figure out how to post it. Perhaps you can help? What I wanted to post is this:

Wikipedia in the Rio Arriba Sun, Thursday May 26th edition.

The headline, Website Reignites Spelling Debate: Tilde or No Tilde? is in large enough print so that it goes all the way across the top of page A13. The article by SUN Staff Writer Whitney Jones then begins with "Española's nomenclature is the source of a recent kerfuffle on the popular website Wikipedia. In an email to the Rio Grande SUN, Wikipedia contributer (amended to "contributor") **** ****** wrote he was engaged in a "nasty fight"..... and so it goes. To see how this article is going to be used check out the discussion (the last one) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Espanola,_New_Mexico. Hope to see you there. Carptrash (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Since the story is going to be about spelling accuracy, it would be really good if you didn't spell the word 'contributor' as "contributer". -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 03:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Well that's a good start. Carptrash (talk) 03:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure "Re–ignites" should be hyphenated; I'm also baffled by the cap "T" for "Tilde". But then again, I'm English, so YMMV.  Chzz  ►  06:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Well for that stuff I am just copying it as is printed in the paper. (not "contributer") We yanks don't like hyphenated words and figure capital letters mean "but more so." But I am getting the impression that this is not a good thing to pass on the Signpost because I'm getting no help doing that. Carptrash (talk) 06:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Have you seen the page Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:55, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank-you John. No I had not seen it, but now have. Carptrash (talk) 16:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

biography

I don't know if i am in the right place? I was reading about robert opinhimer (atomic bomb physicist) after watching his story on pbs last week. your article states that pres john kennedy gave him the enrico ferme award in 1963. in the pbs story they showed lyndon johnson giving r.o. the award. should the wikipedia article be changed? regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.150.152.36 (talk) 05:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Article J. Robert Oppenheimer

Currently says, At the urging of many of Oppenheimer's political friends who had ascended to power, President John F. Kennedy awarded Oppenheimer the Enrico Fermi Award in 1963 as a gesture of political rehabilitation. Edward Teller, the winner of the previous year's award, had also recommended Oppenheimer receive it, in the hope that it would heal the rift between them.^{Cassidy 2005 pp=348–349}

If that fact is incorrect, please fix it; but find a reliable source.

Google books [1] indicates that Lyndon Johnson reinstated his security clearance in 1963, and he was presented with the AEC's Enrico Ferme Award [2] - not necc. that Johnson presented it.

Other sources[3] indicate Kennedy did give it.

But I suggest that, if you can find a good reference, please add it.

If there is doubt, discuss it on Talk:J. Robert Oppenheimer.  Chzz  ►  05:55, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

How 'bout Kennedy awarded it to him and Johnson handed it to him 'cause JFK had a date that night? Carptrash (talk) 07:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The text accompanying this picture of Johnson presenting the award (on December 2, note) explains the matter. Don't forget that Kennedy didn't quite make it through 1963. Deor (talk) 13:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

According to Bird & Sherwin in American Prometheus: the triumph and tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer Kennedy announced that Oppenheimer would receive the the Fermi Award in the Spring of 1963. Two weeks before the ceremony on Dec 2 Kennedy was killed. So Johnson handed it over. It turned out that Kennedy's date was with destiny, not Marilyn. Carptrash (talk) 22:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Convention for dealing with Discussion comments by socks

What is the convention for dealing with Discussion comments left by contributors later convicted of sockpuppetry? Can they be edited off the Discussion page by anyone? Should they be stricken out? Collapsed? Should they be left on the page but be followed by a notice that the user was a sock? Or is it best to leave such matters to be handled by an Admin? This isn't being asked in relation to cases of clear vandalism or otherwise disruptive edits. In particular, what if a sock's input to a discussion is actually of value? (Edited to add: And what if the sock left comments on another user's Talk page? Can those be excised by regular users?)—Biosketch (talk) 06:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The user is welcome to WP:refactor his own userpage and talk page, so feel to address as needed. You don't want to change anything on someone elses talk page unless it was indisputible vandalism. As far as article discussions, I wouldn't change it because, typically socks are involved in lenghty discussions and the removal of those exits will break the conversation flow. I would however make a note on the discussion page about the sock case and the users involved. Be sure not to out the editor, but simply call attention to the various usernames and link them to the WP:SPI case. Tiggerjay (talk) 06:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

adj=on

I just came across this added to a conversion - it looks like this. 5-mile (8.0 km) Can someone please tell me what 'adj=on' means?

Also can you tell me what autogenerated citations are used for. --Rskp (talk) 07:52, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

In Template:Convert, it explains that the parameter 'adj' allows you to force an adjective, e.g. "The 190-foot (58 m) bridge" as opposed to "The 190 feet..."

Citations may be automatically created by tools, such as WP:REFLINKS.  Chzz  ►  07:55, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Is navbox name parameter linked to in any way?

Resolved

 – courtesy of Toshio and especially John. Thanks both!  – OhioStandard (talk) 11:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi all. I need to edit a template that uses a navbox. I don't want to change the template's name (i.e. I'm not trying to move it or use a redirect at all) but I do want to change two of its parameters, specifically its name and title parameters. I understand that the title parameter merely gives the display text that appears in the color bar at the top of the navbox, but what purpose does the name parameter fulfill? More important, will changing that name parameter somehow break links to the template or cause some other unintended consequence?  – OhioStandard (talk) 08:09, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The "name" parameter configures the "v · d · e" ("view · discuss · edit") links at the top left of the navbox. If you are not moving the template to a new name, you shouldn't change it. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Template:Navbox#Parameter descriptions says: "The name of the template, which is needed for the "v · d · e" ("view · discuss · edit") links to work properly on all pages where the template is used." So you only need to change the title-parameter if you want to change what is displayed. The name parameter must match the actual name of the template (without Template: written in front of it). So for Template:Foobar, the name parameter should read name = Foobar. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:34, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Dense of me not to have seen that; thanks John and Toshio. But on the template I'm looking at the "v · d · e" are, respectively, a redlink, a redlink, and a bluelink. When I click the bluelink to "edit", though, I land on an edit/create page for a not-yet-existing template. The name parameter is NOT the same as the page name that occurs in my browser address bar, if it helps to know that. I've never edited a template before, and don't want to screw it up, but this looks erroneous to me. More help, please?  – OhioStandard (talk) 10:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The "name" parameter should match the name of the template - as Toshio said, if Template:Foobar is a navbox, it should have name = Foobar. When done correctly, the "v" link should be a blue link; if the template has a talk page then the "d" link should be blue as well. Can you post a link to the template? -- John of Reading (talk) 10:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again, John. Here it is. I've noticed that a great many articles and such in this topic area employ redirects in an apparent attempt to use unilateral/partisan names instead of internationally recognised ones. Saw a different example just the other day, actually. I presume that's what's going on here, too, although I'm not experienced enough with templates to know for sure.  – OhioStandard (talk) 11:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed that one. Editors are welcome to edit war over discuss the "title" parameter, but the "name" should be left alone. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, John, you're the best! I fully appreciate the wry humor in the strikethough also, all too well, I regret to say. My very cordial thanks.  – OhioStandard (talk) 11:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Tying to alter a picture

I am lost in the mass of instructions here, I am afraid. I have been editing the page on Henry Jermyn, Earl of St Albans, as it contained a number of extremely inaccurate statements about him. There was also a picture, purporting to be of him, which simply was not. I have managed to stop it being shown on the page, which is a good start. I then discovered how to upload a correct picture to 'Wiki Commons'. This is it: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jerpic1a.jpg I pasted this into the text on Henry Jermyn's page, but the picture does not appear. I am not surprised, really, as this is a technical matter, and I have no expertise in these things. Please would somebody who knows how this works explain in very great detail how I can make the picture appear, or, better still, could someone do it for me, please? In any event, it is better to have no picture at all, than the incorrect one, which is what was displayed before. Many thanks indeed, Anthony Adolph Anthony Adolph (talk) 08:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Incidentally, I have no idea how I will ever find an answer if one ever appears here.

Just noting here that me and another editor have left a note on Anthony's talkpage.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:09, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Gas Laws

1. If a sample of argon, the gas in electric bulb is at a pressure of 760 torr when the volume is 100 ml and the temperature is 35 degrees celsius, what must its temperature be if pressure becomes 720 torr and volume 200 ml?

2. Explain the properties of the three states of matter by referring to the forces that exist in each

3. what is surface tension? why moleculesat the surface of the liquid behave differently from those within the interior — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.21.39.11 (talk) 10:07, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do people's homework for them, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Top contributor

How to learn who is the top contributor of the article? TGilmour (talk) 11:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I think that's often a rather subjective measure. If by top contributor you mean who has done the most number of edits on an article, you can click the 'View history' tab at the top of an article in order to see who contributed. Is that what you have in mind? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

A couple of inches down the history tab is a line of "External tools". The "Contributors" tool will summarise the number of edits made by each contributor. That still doesn't help you to assess the size or quality of the edits made, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both. Yes, I meant the users who have made the most edits. TGilmour (talk) 13:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Anagrams

The Surface_Detail page till recently had a lot of edits removed by User:John. After discussion on John's talk page he posted his reasons on the discussion page - basically, that they were OR. I'd tend to disagree about my edits but they're not important enough to worry about.

One of the bits removed - not my edit - was the observation that the name of one character was an anagram of the name of another character. I'd been of the opinion that an anagram was an example of Wikipedia:CALC#Routine_calculations, so not OR. After all, solving an anagram is decidable in the Godelian sense, which arithmetic is not. But User:John disagreed. He's an administrator, I'm not, so that was that.

Some days later I realized that things declared to be anagrams were in use in other articles in Wikipedia to illustrate various points without benefit of a secondary source. Going by John's precedent, this is "original research". Looking at his talk page I didn't want to make the poor man's life any harder, so I left a note on the article's discussion page.

After digging a bit deeper in to the "Routine Calculations" I realized it actually mentioned "routine mathematical calculation", not simply arithmetic. It also included conversion templates which dealt with characters, also not arithmetical in nature.

Can I please ask which of the following would resolve the situation?

Globally remove any anagrams usage to support a proposition without secondary reference

Declaration that anagrams fall within the definition of Wikipedia:CALC#Routine_calculations

Creation of a different exception to WP:NOR.

None of the above - in which case some explanation would be of considerable help to this baffled bear of comparatively little brain.

--Sdoradus (talk) 13:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdoradus (talk • contribs) 13:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think this plot twist is original research, unless some reliable source has drawn the same conclusions. Otherwise...well, for example, I could read the book, and form my own interpretation deciding that 'Vatueil' was an anagram of 'Tau Evil', and work out some insane theory about Greek letters. Or something. Yes, that'd be silly, but it'd be just as 'mathematically correct' and valid.

I don't think a blanket ruling is necessary or appropriate. In some cases, an anagram could have been discussed in independent reliable sources - in which case, inclusion would certainly be appropriate. In most other cases, I would consider it OR because it would be 'novel' (if not reported elsewhere). However, most such complicated notions need exceptions and caveats, which results in excess instructions. I don't believe this to be a significant enough problem to worry about 'globally' - I suggest just discussing it on a case-by-case basis.  Chzz  ►  19:16, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay ... so the preferred option of the four above is "None of the above". Very well. The anagrams though embedded in the "Plot Twist" text you mention, don't actually relate to the twist. They do identify Zakalwe with Vatueil. But the text itself does that. There's no point in a reference.

For reference, here's a typical usage: (from Laonikos_Chalkokondyles) "Laonicus ... an anagram of Nikolaos which bears the same meaning".

--Sdoradus (talk) 20:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

short on references

I have written the article about the artist myself with information supplied by him. There are no formal references. What to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.65.27.2 (talk) 13:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you tell us where you have written something? The IP address you posted this message with has no other contributions. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:23, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles about living persons must be fully referenced. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

How to make a page

I want to ask how to make a page in Wikipedia. I want to create something but dont know how? Blog1234 (talk) 14:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Type in the name of the page you want to create into the search box in the top right, then click on the red text in the message "You may create the page "_______", but consider checking the search results below to see whether it is already covered." Make sure you include some reliable sources or the page is likely to be deleted, best to have a search for similar articles and see how those are formatted. The Wikipedia:Your first article page might also be quite useful. doomgaze (talk) 14:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I've been wondering the same thing as Blog1234 --Sdoradus (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I've left some useful links on your talk page that link to various help pages. CaptRik (talk) 14:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Standard "how do I create an article" advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 15:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

copyright and licensing

Hi, can I possibly get some help with the copyright and licensing of the two pictures that I have used in the 'socio-ecological system' article? I am not sure how to add the copyright tag and which tag to use. Both of the pictures are referenced and the articles are available online. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaudia.darbinova (talk • contribs) 14:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Klaudia.darbinova (talk) 14:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Availability online is really irrelevant. What is important is the copyright status of the images. Please can you provide links to the online articles so that we can review for copyright? If the relevant articles are not released on terms suitable for Wikipedia, the files will have to be deleted as copyright violations. – ukexpat (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Long Hunters

John Retna Baker and John Harrision were and Ben Cutbirth all Boones relatives were all of the original LongHunters.Richard Hilton made up a bunch of ignort facts he and his people made to be cruel and degrading.I am Michael Ray Kelly and I have a Federal Complaint against the Hilton family,in Washington D.C.,he even went so far as to hirer lookalikes of my family,to defame and defraud us.also if you bothered to check your history,about President William Henrey Harrison,and he had slaves.all of the slaves(so called)had to be registered as slaves in the Virginas,because if they wernt registered as slaves they'd be taken down to the south and made to be slaves. Harrison had in his own family,one of his sons that married a negro slave women.And if you bothered to check you history,all the so called slaves in the Harrison family,all attended the Beara College,the first college,in America even during the Civil War(Lincon which was his cousin(Lincons maternal grandmother was a Harrison) all were college educated men and women. I sent the White House part of my family history.Donot allow the Hilton family to view it please.they act like their my brother,mother ,sister cousin,aunt and niebors.He's nuts. prefix:Wikipedia:FAQOur family History is from Ifha Sookitosh Backer.on my mothers side.and President Harrison,President Bush family,President Lincon,President George Washington,Maupin Gabriel the III, and Kelly.

U.S.Marshal (Honorary) OXFORD: 1910 Index No: 1750 Collins,Fercury January 29th.2011 10:05 A.M. Michael Ray Kelly 4550 Sky-View Dr. Arnold(Jefferson County)Missouri 63010 (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.157.170.119 (talk) 16:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure if you are in the right spot. This is Wikipedia the free encyclopedia and this page is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. Is this where you meant to post? GB fan (talk) 16:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Where is the best place to discuss the new 'Rate this page' feature?

Just stumbled onto 'Rate this page' at White Amazonian Indians. Where can I best bring up the question why has this cockamamie idea been implemented (even if only on 10,000 articles) without community discussion? I though Wikipedia was NOT Facebook. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

See [4] for some discussion at Mediawiki. Dougweller (talk) 16:30, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

That's a very good question and I would like to see the answer, too, since nobody seems to be sure (see also WP:VPT#"Rate this page"?). Why on earth isn't there some kind of centralized discussion taking place here on Wikipedia, where the majority of confused readers and editors are?

As a sidenote: It took 5 days for me to receive an unsatisfactory answer about the purpose of this tool (and I still have no clue about the exact purpose of this tool). See here Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Doug, didn't you hear that Facebook purchased MW? Okay, maybe that is a farce, but yes, I agree, it sound crazy. More like data mining for statistic sake instead of producing any valid results. Tiggerjay (talk) 18:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Surely, we need a "Rate this 'Rate this page feature' feature"?  Chzz  ►  19:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

This has been around for a while, it's just been expanded to more pages recently. Sorry, I don't have a link for where it actually started, but I know that it is not that new. The article page of that talk page seems to indicate it's been with us since September 2010. —Soap— 19:33, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

We have an Article Feedback Tool that is in a pilot deployment as of September 22, 2010. Only a few articles have the feedback tool— they are in the hidden Category:Article Feedback Pilot. You can ask more questions at the discussion page for the Article Feedback Tool workgroup. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarkstown_High_School_North

Notable alumni has Richard Hobrook as a caberet Singer !!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.3.10.221 (talk) 17:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

While "Richard Holbrook" may be a cabaret singer, he is not the same as Richard Holbrooke (note the -e). Since we do not have an article for the cabaret singer, and the diplomat did not go to Clarkstown North, I've removed the entry. TNXMan 17:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Why did Dragonfly 67 delete my account?

Why did Dragonfly 67 delete my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.92.211.37 (talk) 18:21, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted. Dragonfly67 may have blocked your account though. TNXMan 18:33, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

And/or deleted your user page, which is not the same thing as deletion of your account. If this happened, you can probably view the reason by pasting the complete title, e.g. "User:Name" (exact spelling and capitalization required) into the deletion log. --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I guess you mean User:DragonflySixtyseven. We can only say what actually happened if you give your username. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Lists of officers as copyvio

I recently ran into a situation where a novice editor had written an article about an organization and had copied a long section about the history of the organization verbatim into the WP article. The copied section ended with a longish list of the holders of various offices in the organization. The editor adequately rewrote a bit of the text, but restored the officers list character-for-character verbatim except for the addition of one current officer not in the original text. The lists were simple, of the nature:
President
1923 - 1924 John Jones
1924 - 1925 Bill Bailey
(and so on)
Does the use of the verbatim officer lists constitute a copyvio or is it fair use? Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:16, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It's not a copyvio and it's not fair use. Under US law, no copyright exists in such a list. Thparkth (talk) 20:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The only concern that i would voice would be (1) to encourage that novice editor to rewrite the information before posting it to WP; and (2) to evaluate the list of officers because the formatting may need some work. Tiggerjay (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Just to be clear to Thparkth's statement, factual data cannot be copyrighted. If the list was one created from personal opinion, there are creative elements in it and thus does become copyrighted, and verbatim copying is inappropriate. Not the case here, but as suggested, its better to reformat to form suitable for WP's purposes. --MASEM (t) 21:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree. Except just saying 'not copyright violation under US law' (presumably following the Feist decision rejecting the "sweat of the brow" approach). It isn't sufficient, however true, since other jurisdictions do take the view that a simple compilation is copyrightable. The level of originality required is "minimal" and in some cases non-existent. --Sdoradus (talk) 21:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Unable to Edit Inaccurate Summary

I want to edit - correct an inaccurate summary, the first thing written about a community, where I live, Sun Lakes, Arizona. It is above the Geography portion, which seems to be the first thing editable. How can I edit the inaccurate description of our community that contains several major errors? First, it is NOT a retirement community. It is an "Active Adult" community. Age 19 is the minimum age for permanent residency. Some of the old timers who have lived here since the 80s are now retired but, most of the people still work and there is even a 40s & 50s club. Second, there are three communities, not five, within Sun Lakes. Sun Lakes I is Phase I. The second community, Phase II, is Cottonwood Palo Verde. Palo Verde has two sections, one gated, one not gated. The third community, Phase III, is Oakwood & Ironwood, now known as Iron Oaks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babyboomer1001 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

The 'edit' tab at the top of the page allows you to edit the entire article. I think, instead, you might be using the [edit] at the side of each section, and there isn't one for the first section.

When you go to the article, you should see this along the top; at the left are tabs for "Article" and "Discussion", and to the right, there is "Read", "Edit", and "View history" (then the 'search' box). That's the 'edit' you want. It'll get you to here - where you can change anything.

Please make sure you give a reliable source (e.g. a newspaper article) for any information you add. For help on how to do that, see WP:REFB.  Chzz  ►  20:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I changed the first sentence to contain the phrase you used. Note, though, that the active adult community page is simply a "REDIRECT" to the retirement community article and therefore the meaning of the sentence is still the same, just the wording has changed. —Soap— 21:30, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Carrie Savage, the voice actress

My name is Carrie Savage, and I am the voice actress. Someone has posted personal information about me on the page THAT IS ALL AND TOTALLY INCORRECT, and must be info. they found about somoene else named Carrie SAvage. There is no personal info. about meor my family, anywhere on the web, and that is because I feel that is private info. Furthermore, since my parents do not even share my name, the info. can not even be researched! I have tried to correct the info. and post a reprpoach to whomever posted that , who should be extremely ashamed, but it keeps getting erased! I need this info. removed immediately, or I believe I may have grounds for a legal law suit! The ONLY INFO., ON THAT PAGE THAT IS CORRECT, BESIDES MY CREDITS, AND THE VERY TOP LINE, IS MY BIRTH DATE! And that is because I put that on the web myself. (My birth date that is!) I am appalled that a website like this exists where anyone can just post anything about anyone else, especially about a publicly known person, that is not only so wrong it may as well be from Mars, but without checking facts or asking permission.

Again, I have tried to correct this info. three times now, but it keeps getting erased and the wrong info. remains!

Please remove all of the personal info. except my birth date from that page, and post a public reproach from me to whomever, just looked up my name online and assumed the info. they found about another person named Carrie Savage (Yes, there are more than one) was about me, and posted it online. Not only should they have checked their facts but they should have asked permission.

Furthermore! I was not born nor have I ever lived anywhere near Atlanta, Georgia! My parents do not even share my last name, I am not married, do not have children and am most certainly NOt married to Grand Jorge! (I think that is another voice actress, Jessica G's husband!) Nor do I even have any brothers! REally please fix this immmediately. I expect to hear from someone soon!

Please do not share this email address, but you can email me at .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrie Savage, voice actress (talk • contribs) 23:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately this is a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, if you can prove in writing that what you see isn't true, then please do. Other than that, there's nothing that can be done. Wikipedia is a website where articles are public to everyone. Furthermore, that reason your attempts to remove the information from Carrie Savage is because you didn't cite a reason nor have it proven that it indeed isn't true. Hope this helps, SwisterTwister (talk) 23:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

The information you mentioned has been removed. The reason your edits were removed was, because you added commentary within the live article, and your edits (including removal of info) were all 'undone' together. For example you added This info. previously posted here was Wrong, wrong and triple wrong! - that kind of thing should not appear in an article. Use the article talk page for that, which is Talk:Carrie Savage.

Please see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject), which has advice on how to deal with any further concerns without running into problems.

I will also make a note on our Biographies of living persons Noticeboard to ensure others watch the article. Best,  Chzz  ►  23:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

P.S. SwisterTwister, that is incorrect. The information in the bio in e.g. this old version had no references, and therefore the subject of the article - or anyone else - was free to remove them, in accordance with WP:V and WP:BLP policies. They don't have to prove it isn't true. See also WP:BLPEDIT.  Chzz  ►  23:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Update: The user has just been blocked for making legal threats.  Chzz  ►  00:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yes I apologize for my reply, I replied here prior to examining the article history. I didn't realize it until I had already posted here. SwisterTwister (talk) 01:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

May 28

District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority

Why can't I edit this article? It doesn't appear to be semi-protected (I don't see a lock symbol on the upper right corner). 198.228.194.216 (talk) 01:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The article has never been protected. And no edit filter prevented your edit. Try clicking on this direct link. Goodvac (talk) 01:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. The edit buttons are now visible. I don't know what happened. Thanks. 198.228.194.216 (talk) 01:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

There is a problem where some users sometimes see a "View source" tab instead of "Edit" on unprotected pages. If this happens then try clicking "View source" anyway. It's the same url as the "Edit" tab and it should work if the page is not protected. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that was the issue. Thanks for the helpful tip. 198.228.194.216 (talk) 03:45, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

translate foriegn websites into english

Is there a way to translate foriegn language websites into english? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.40.100.70 (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Try Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/#. Like any machine translation, it is less-than-perfect, but you can often make reasonable sense of the output. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan Jr.

There is an error in Justice Brennan's bio under "Early Life." It states that he and his wife had four children, but in reality they only had three: William III, Hugh and Nancy. They did not have a child named Shirley Burns Brennan. Reference: Recent biography by Seth Stern, Justice Brennan: Liberal Champion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.69.111 (talk) 02:11, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. SwisterTwister (talk) 02:27, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The alleged fourth child was added by an IP [5] who claimed to be related [6] but I can find no evidence of this so I support the removal. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Editing a Wickipedia Article- How can I change a picture or image?

I would like to change /edit a jpeg image on an article, how is this done pls?02:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.50.166 (talk)

It depends on the article, image location and image license, but all images must be uploaded before they can be used. See Wikipedia:Images and come back with more info if you still have questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

sole survivors of airplane crashes

missing the 9 year old dutch boy who survived last years flight over tripoli, libya (al afriqia airways) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.203.2.65 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 28 May 2011

Thank you for your suggestion. You'll need to supply a reference to a "reliable source" (such as a newspaper, book, news website) to add a fact like that.

As long as you have a reference, please feel free to add it yourself. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.

The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Chzz  ►  07:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean List of sole survivors of airline accidents or incidents? That list includes the Dutch boy Ruben van Assouw from Afriqiyah Airways Flight 771 which crashed in Tripoli last year. He was added a year ago so perhaps you saw an outdated mirror of the list at another site outside Wikipedia's control. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

reporting inappropriate photo

please check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447 for an inappropriate photo at the bottom of page 124.182.18.165 (talk) 07:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

That was caused by vandalism, which was removed less than 2 minutes later, and the user who did it has been blocked from editing. If you're still seeing it, try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447?action=purge to force a refresh. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  07:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

ARUNBRAINY'S QUERY ABOUT CHEMICAL

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE CHEMICAL ADHESIVE/SEALANT USED TO ENCAPSULATE OR COVERING THE COPPER WIRE COIL,IN SUBMERCIBLE PUMP, WHICH IS VERY HARD AND BRITTLE DARK GREEN GLOSSY COMPOUND . . THE PUMP IS USED IN Evaporative air cooler IN INDIAN TERRAINS. . . . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunbrainy (talk • contribs) 07:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, this page is for helping people with using wikipedia, and not with general questions. You can perhaps ask over at the reference deskTiggerjay (talk) 07:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

File Historys

Would it be possible to make it so that on [[File: type articles that if a specific file is used on a page, that it would be listed on the File's history? Currently, the history lists the changes made to the file, not the wikilinks that have refered to / used the file. Or would this be too time consuming like a search on Windows Vista?Curb Chain (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The software only knows which pages currently use a file; I don't know of any efficient way to find which pages used to use a file but no longer do so. The current uses are listed in the "File links" part of the file page. Also, if you are looking at a file page, the "What links here" link in the left sidebar should give you this information. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Deleted post in the talk page of Pietro Badoglio

Few hours ago I wrote a post on the discussion page of article Pietro Badoglio. Later I discovered it does not show. I checked the page history and discovered it had been reverted i.e. deleted, but the name of the user who reverted the page does not show either. However if I am logged in my post does show!!!???

I do not know what this does mean, anyhow I think this fact is absolutely unacceptable and foreign to the spirit of Wikipedia. Please note: actually I did not edit the article according to my views, I just posted some remarks and comments on the talk page in order to inform readers on facts, mostly known to everybody (and accepted by historians) and answer questions asked by other readers in the discussion above. The only speculative point in my post (a tiny part) is the issue of the agreement between B. and Albert Kesselring which is now accepted by many Italians (historians too) as it is the only way to give a plausible explanation to a long series of events: it has been testified indirectly by witnesses on the place.

Whatever the case the suppression of information on a discussion page is a kind of behaviour that I do not think can be tolerated as it amounts to censorship and is in contrast with freedom of speech and research.Aldrasto11 (talk) 12:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The only edits I can see that you've made to the talk page of Pietro Badoglio were today, and have not been reverted. I'm afraid I can't see any sign of a previous change, or reversion there. Suppression of anything leaves a "username removed" or "edit summary removed" notice. Could you elaborate? Is it possible you made the comment somewhere, or that you did not save it? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

All indications are that it's a cache issue (and you are jumping to large conclusions). You were not reverted; nothing was deleted. Your computer saved a cached version of the page for efficiency of memory use, and is displaying that when you are logged out. Just clear your cache.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I see three edits, made roughly six hours ago, related to "Fascist party membership and other issues". They are all present. Are those the edits in question?--SPhilbrickT 13:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

This is definitely a cache issue and not a reversion. The cached version could be on your computer, at your ISP, or on one of Wikimedia's servers which hasn't updated for some resaon. The bottom of Talk:Pietro Badoglio should currently say "This page was last modified on 28 May 2011 at 07:26." (or an offset if you are logged in with another time zone than UTC in your preferences). If you see an older time then you are seeing a cached version. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Image keeps being desplayed after reversion of the addition

Resolved

In the article Sony, does anyone else see this image appearing inside the infobox? The edit adding the image was reverted by ClueBot NG, yet I still see the image in the infobox, even in the latest revision. Clearing my browser cache also had no effect. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Seems this was a browser issue. The image disappeared. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

PC Game Dust Tale of the wired west

I Love the game, I am hooked but now I have Windows XP and cannot play the Game. My question is there an up to date version of the game or a patch so I can play the version I have? If I have to purchase the game again, so be it, unless there is a down load that would be to quote Tony the Tiger GREAT!!!!! So I hope you can help or steer me to the right Phone # or E-Mail to get the mission accomplished. Please hurry because again I Love the game....Terry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.129.254.212 (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

This is the Wikipedia Help Desk - for questions about using Wikipedia. So, we can't answer that question here.

I have copied your question over to our Reference Desk, in the Computing section - see Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#PC Game Dust Tale of the wired west.

Please check back there, to see if you get answers. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  15:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Bill Nye the Science Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_nye)

This sentence in the "Bill Nye" article contain erroneous imformation: "In 2004 and 2005, Nye hosted 100 Greatest Discoveries, an award-winning series produced by THINKFilm for The Science Channel and in high definition on the Discovery HD Theater." The error is in the attribution of "THINKFilm" as the producer of the series "100 Greatest Discoveries."

There are two companies named "thinkfilm." One, "thinkiflm", a production company located in Washington, DC (www.thinkfilm-inc.com) is the actual and correct producer of the "100 Greatest Discoveries" series. "THINKFilm" is a defunct/bankrupt film distribution company that was located in Toronto, Canada which had nothing to do with the "100 Greatest Discoveries" project. This confusion of the two similarly named companies should be corrected as the attribution of professional credits for production companies like "thinkfilm" is an important business credit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.67.25.242 (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

This isn't something that needs to be discussed here. This notice board is for the discussion of violations of the Biographies of Living people policy. There is no violation or suspected violation here. This should be brought up on the article's talk page. GB fan (talk) 17:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The notice board for the dicussion of violations of the Biographies of Living people policy is WP:BLPN, not here. 216.93.212.245 (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You are right, not sure what I was thinking. This page is for help in using Wikipedia. This question still should be brought up on the talk poage of the article not here. GB fan (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation and diacriticals

If you have two people of roughly equal importance, and their names only differ in that one name has a diacritical - Zoë Smith and Zoe Smith - for instance... how then would you set up the disambiguation page? - ThafireAndThteel (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I would name the page without the diacritical. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Whereas I would use the diacritic. As long as both are linked from a disambiguation page, then it shouldn't matter too much. Each page should link to the dab page. Mjroots (talk) 20:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

If there's just the two, I wouldn't bother with a disambiguation page - I'd name them "Zoë Smith" and "Zoe Smith" (which is fine) - and add a hatnote on the top of each - for example, on the top of "Zoe Smith" you'd put something like {{Other people3|the English author|the Australian musician|Zoë Smith}} (example only; picking random info) - which will put,

See Template:Other uses for the many options.  Chzz  ►  22:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Georgia

Someone or something is preventing me from adding the name of Nino Burjanadze in the sub section 'Silver Revolution 2011' of the Georgia (country) article, also Democratic Movement-United Georgia omits the word Georgia when you try to include this. I have checked the view history tab and I can't see any actual vandalism, all I can see its some kind of unexplained vandalism Zylog79 (talk) 19:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Nino Burjanadze

If you try to edit the above paragraph on Georgia, notice the name Nino Burjanadze is not visible ???????? Something fishy going on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zylog79 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

If it is, I think it's just you. I can see the name Nino Burjanadze in both windows. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Me, editing the above section

Works for me - as shown in the screen print image here.

The only thing I notice is, "Nino Burjanadze" has a red wiggly underline, because it isn't a recognized dictionary word. Is it possible you've got something set which makes non-dictionary words not show up, on your browser?  Chzz  ►  22:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you kindly take a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Georgia_%28country%29&action=edit&section=19 and see if you can see why the second to last reference (90) has been 'modified'? And if the name Nino Burjanadze appears? Thank you Zylog79 (talk) 01:35, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Zylog there seems to be something wrong with your browser. In your edit here you deleted some random words which I am sure you didn't intend to delete. —teb728 t c 02:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

In this series of edits to this section you deleted Nino Burjanadze three times and Georgia once. I have repaired them here and will try to repair your edits to the article. —teb728 t c 03:00, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Teb728, thanks for your help, I ma using a different computer today, I was using a standard browser Firefox 3, otherwise I have no explanation why those words are being blocked?? Zylog79 (talk) 14:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

One thing to try then, is upgrade to Firefox 4 (unless you have some good reason not to). That might solve it - it wouldn't necessarily tell us why you had the trouble, but if it fixes it, it fixes it.  Chzz  ►  02:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

File:TonkPile.jpg

Hello:

I was wondering where you obtained the photo in the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TonkPile.jpg

These are my cats, and while I don't mind that you're using one of my photos, I would like credit for the photo, and to correct one cat description: the blue point IS a blue MINK. Her eyes are closed, but you can rest assured that they are aqua, which makes her a mink.

Maria Sulikowski — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.59.18 (talk) 19:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Ckahler uploaded the picture 06-09-2006. They claimed the picture as their own work at that time. GB fan (talk) 20:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

File:CubbyLego.jpg

Ckahler - Courtney Kahler - also wrote, I added a couple of my Tonks, but they aren't the best shots to show body coloration and such. I hope others will feel free to add and/or edit the photos! My 3 are CFA registered, 2 of which are grand premiers in CFA. So they are good representations of the breed, at least in America. Tonks outside the US look a bit different. [7]

The file has extended data to show it was taken at 23:20, 5 September 2006 with a Olympus digital camera.

The user uploaded another picture at the same time, shown here - File:CubbyLego.jpg. That one was apparently taken 5 March 2005, using the same model of camera (according to the EXIF information). It would appear to be the same platinum mink tonk from the first photo. Do you also recognize that one?

Are you absolutely certain it is one of your photos? I'm genuinely sorry to question you; we certainly take copyright matters very seriously. We try to assume the best from everyone, but that includes the original uploader - who did click to say "This is entirely my own work", back in 2006.  Chzz  ►  21:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Why so hard to add photo?

Wow, it is like deciphering an alien code in the dark with music blaring and police dogs attacking. After much searching I uploaded a photo, exactly copied and pasted the precise name into the precise spot in the 'edit' space for the article, deleted the old, and now neither one is visible. Went back to the upload screen, found that the new file is there, tried it again, as above--no success. 3X--no success. Out of ideas on how to decipher vague instructions that when followed lead no where. Took me 15-20 tries to find this page. Bluestem (talk) 20:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The picture, File:Manfreda inflorescence, flowers with petals intact.jpg is showing up in Manfreda maculosa. You might try purging] the server to see if that fixes the problem. I did make one small change to the article to make the image be a thumbnail vs full size. GB fan (talk) 20:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement Help

Hi I just got a message from user Nortynort about the article Jim Chapman (Canadian) having copyright infringing content. I was under the impression that it was just the second paragraph (which I deleted) that had the copyright material, but I was sent that message after i deleted the paragraph. I do have permission to use the content in question, but I realized that the paragraph that had the content in it was unnesissary, so I deleted it instead. If there is still a problem, I can do the whole "The contents of this website (or page, if you are specifically releasing one section) are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0 and the GNU Free Documentation License, unversioned with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts." thing, it's just a bit of a hassle. Thanks in advance Goodbucket (talk) 21:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like you have either got permission from the copyright holder, or are the copyright holder. However, we don't know this. In the latter case, see Wikipedia:DCM. In the former, it's probably easier to ask NortyNort or post at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, which would also be a good venue to get more information if I've understood incorrectly. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Nelson Mandela semi-protected status

I would like to add some references to Nelson Mandela in film.

Am I blocked because I am new, or is the block on the actual page?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niemifilm (talk • contribs) 22:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Nelson Mandela is semi-protected (notice the little picture of a lock in the corner). From the protection log comments it is unlikely to be unprotected again anytime soon. You can suggest changes on the talk page or make the edit using an established Wikipedia account. (Making your own account is "a good thing".) Rmhermen (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

You would first need to create a Wikipedia account (which I see you have) and then become autoconfirmed. This happens automatically after you have made at least 10 edits over at least 4 days. Since you already have several edits today you should be able to edit these types of articles soon. Welcome to Wikipedia by the way! doomgaze (talk) 23:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

(short version)

'coz you are new. In 4 days, after you've made 10 edits (you've already made 7), you'll be able to edit these semi-protected pages.  Chzz  ►  00:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

And you are free to make edits to a majority of the articles on Wikipedia, there are only a select few which you will be prevented from editing. Tiggerjay (talk) 07:19, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Converting IP history to a handle

I have been editing as an IP for quite some time. I would like to start an account with a handle (Something clever I hope). Q: Is there any way that my history can be brought over? I have had about 10 or so different IP's (they seem to change every few months, the latest happened today). I have a pretty good idea of the past IP's and the articles I improved. 208.85.0.114 (talk) 23:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, out software doesn't allow for this. What you could do is create an account and write on your userpage "I edited using IP#1 from A to B, with IP #2 from B to C, etc." (Do keep in mind that it would allow people to possibly identify you, if that's something you're concerned about). NW (Talk) 23:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Avoiding this specific problem is one of the many advantages in creating a user account.  Chzz  ►  00:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Respectfully, I believe this person to be a sockpuppet of an indef-blocked user. This is an attempt to form a good hand account. — BQZip01 — ^talk 05:44, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

BQ, So, you'll be wanting WP:SPI then?  Chzz  ►  10:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

May 29

Userpage and {{Scroll box}}

On my userpage, how would I make the DYKs scroll box align right under the header, like under the "Articles created" subheader? Albacore (talk) 00:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I've had a play, but without success. I suggest you post at Wikipedia:User page design center/Help and collaboration/Help requests. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Texting Larry

How can I text Larry the cable guy with a money making idea that I have? I can be reached by my e mail <email removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.76.246.9 (talk) 02:05, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 —teb728 t c 02:18, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Question about Alexandra Powers

Should the Category:American_atheists go in the article Alexandra_Powers becuase it says in her personal life: Powers does not adhere to any religion. Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I believe so since atheists don't practice any form of religion. SwisterTwister (talk) 03:24, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Not "adhering" to any particular religion is not in any way the same as being an atheist. Please remove the category. And, Neptunekh2, please read WP:BLPCAT, which deals with adding sexuality and religion categories to articles about living people. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 03:50, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Agreed with DC. Being an atheist is not the same as practicing no religion. 216.93.212.245 (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

More than that: She say she prays when she feels sad; if she is an atheist, who do you think she pray to? —teb728 t c 21:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a deity. Not adhering to any religion does not mean she doesn't believe in a deity. So we don't have enough information to say she is an atheist. Also WP:BLPCAT, a section of the policy on living people, says "Categories regarding religious beliefs and sexual orientation should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question; and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to their notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources." There is nothing in the article to say she has self-identified as an atheist nor is it relevant to her notable activities or public life. So it does not belong. GB fan (talk) 21:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Katharyn_Powers

Could someone fix the links on put on Screenwriter's article Katharyn_Powers? Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:31, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Done. Please look at the edit diffs to see how I did this so that you can do it for yourself in the future. Dismas|^(talk) 04:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

See this diff Tiggerjay (talk) 07:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

List of English football transfers winter 2002–03

I have been heavily editing this page but when I went to save it, it took ages and came up with a Wikimedia Error. I have had to copy the table to Microsoft Word, in the hope that I could add all the references there and replace the table in the article, but it again takes a long time before producing an error. What can I do and why is this happening? The article probably has a couple of hundred references, but this isn't usually a problem in a long list. 03md 04:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that wikipedia was having some performance issues and was totally down at some points. That might have been your problem. Otherwise, I recommend you update in sections instead of the entire article at a time. Tiggerjay (talk) 07:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Old style versus new style dates

I have a question regarding dates. In the Wikipedia articles, dates before about 1753 are given in which calendar? Are they given in the Old Style (Julian) calendar, or in the New Style (Gregorian) calendar? This question is pretty important. For example, in the article about Blaise Pascal, his year of birth is given as 1623. Is this date already converted to the New Style (Gregorian) calendar, or not?

Tandava9 (talk) 04:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

"France changed from Julian to Gregorian Calendar on 9 December 1582 (O.S.) where the next day was 20 December 1582 (N.S.)." (from Old Style and New Style dates) "Dates of events in countries using the Gregorian calendar are given in the Gregorian calendar. This includes some of the Continent of Europe from 1582, the British Empire from 14 September 1752, and Russia from 14 February 1918" (from WP:MOSNUM#Calendars). Hans Adler 04:52, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Royal Bank of Canada Fraud cover up With CIBC bank of canad

I have information about a fraud cover up where the royal bank has stone walled the repayment of funds there is information of a cover up and plan to make the client and company broke how can i get information of this act that happen at the RBC ROYAL BANK OF CANADA (Redacted)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.94.229 (talk) 05:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you would write to the bank?

Or, if it hits newspapers, add it to their article with reliable sources.

Here, at the Wikipedia Help Desk, we can only help with questions about how to use Wikipedia - not any of the 3 zillion articles we have. Best,  Chzz  ►  05:26, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

market segmentation

How to use the santoor prouct in geographical concept? How to use the santoor prouct in psychographical concept? How to use the santoor prouct in demographical concept? How to use the santoor prouct in behavioural concept? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.57.21.234 (talk) 05:57, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Your questions, unfortunately, lack sufficient context to be answered. You are at the English language Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia. We do have an article on the musical instrument, Santoor though I'm not sure how it could relate to your questions. Maybe you landed on an article and thought we were directly connected with the subject? If you are looking to ask a knowledge question, please visit the reference desk (this page is for questions about using the encyclopedia itself) but even there you will need to be far more focused and clear in your questions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Article needing to be expanded

The article List_of_The_Mummy_characters with The_Scorpion_King_2:_Rise_of_a_Warrior characters needs to be expanded. Can someone please do that? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 06:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

If you have the needed information, I would suggest that you make the needed changes. Otherwise, you might want to ask the film project team over at WP:FILM. Tiggerjay (talk) 07:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Technical question for footnote experts

At List of postal entities#UPU members, a single footnote is used to source what will be 163 out of 191 entries (once the list is complete). Using the {{reflist}} system, this generates a rather long and ugly list of backlinks (a,b,c...aa,ab,...). Is there some way to suppress this or is there a more elegant method? Thanks,  Sandstein  08:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You could cheat; see [8] - hope that'll be self-explanatory, from the code. Obviously, it could be done 'neater' with a specific one-off template. But give me a shout otherwise.  Chzz  ►  08:54, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I tried it at List of postal entities#UPU members and interestingly it works while in section edit preview mode, but not after saving (the footnote links do not jump down to the reference). Do you know what I might have done wrong?  Sandstein  09:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Need to 'group' the first one [9].  Chzz  ►  09:49, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I have asked for a fix for this— Template:Bug. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:18, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! It still doesn't seem to work correctly with groups, but I'll have to work around this. (The links now go to the ungrouped footnote rather than to the first footnote in the "UPU" group.)  Sandstein  11:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Mhm; the reference links are numbered, regardless of grouping - starting with zero.

If you look at User:Chzz/Sandstein1, notice if you hover your mouse over the first ref (or click it), it links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chzz/Sandstein1#cite_note-0 - and the second reference labelled ^{[mygroup 1]}, which just happens to be grouped, links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chzz/Sandstein1#cite_note-1

So, if you wanted those others to link to that, you'd need to use [[#cite_note-1]] (or, rather, ^{[[#cite_note-1|Whatever you want displayed]]}). See User:Chzz/Sandstein2.

I'm afraid the reference numbers (and thus the links) are out of our control, so if people add another ref above 'yours', that'll screw things up. I don't know of a way around that, unless... well, I suppose you could put in a manual anchor thingy using #tag, and link to that...but that'd make the code a bit more complex. Er. You can kinda see what I mean in User:Chzz/help/footnoteref?

You're work-around looks fine though. But if you need any further help, give me a shout. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

HTH,  Chzz  ►  01:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again for the help, I'll try to wrap my head around that!  Sandstein  06:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Copyvio images

I'm at work and have people working around me. That said, I'm apprehensive to check into the files that Fark333333 (talk · contribs) is uploading. I had a few minutes by myself which I used to tag one of their other image uploads as a copyvio (Flickr source says "all rights reserved") but they've uploaded several more. Could someone who doesn't have prying eyes around them check out this user's file uploads? I don't think any of them will be nude images but I'd rather not take the chance. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 09:35, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, another editor saw the other edits that this user was making. Thanks anyway, Dismas|^(talk) 09:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Anglia Building Society

I have an account from 1990 for the Anglia Building Society and have £29.94 left in there since 5 Oct 1990 my account no. is (Redacted). Name Sally Morris. Book in the name of Neil Morris and Sally Morris, am now divorced but would like to cash in this amount plus the interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.136.101 (talk) 12:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 GB fan (talk) 12:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Follow-on, looking at the article, Anglia Building Society, it appears they merged and became Nationwide Building Society. You should probably try to contact them at http://www.nationwide.co.uk/contact_us/how_to_contact_us/default.htm GB fan (talk) 12:55, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Direct experience entry

Dear Wikipedia, I found an entry for the school I went to. It is a democratic school with a very unique philosophy on how children learn. As a past student, 1967 - 78, I now embody the outcome of this philosophy. How can I contribute my experience to the school entry? Thank you 16:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeesaMay (talk • contribs) 16:27, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You are free to add to the article. Please remember to add reliable sources, and make the article Neutral CTJF83 16:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you are free to contribute, just like anyone else. However, please note that personal stories are not usually appropriate for Wikipedia articles, unless they have been reported in reliable sources--SPhilbrickT 18:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Sterling silver

i would like to know if sterling silver is worth anything — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.198.57 (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

This page is for Wikipedia questions. A simple Google search will give you the price. CTJF83 16:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Signature limit too restrictive

Hi,

I'm trying to set the following as my signature, but Wikipedia won't let me, as it's above the 255-character limit:

<span style="font-family:Tahoma">&mdash;[[User:Tommyjb|<span style="color:blue">Tommyjb</span>]] [[User_talk:Tommyjb|<span style="color:orange">Talk!</span>]] <span style="font-size:x-small">({{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}})</span>

Instead, I'm having to use the deprecated <font> tag:

<font face="Tahoma">—[[User:Tommyjb|<font color="blue">Tommyjb</font>]] [[User_talk:Tommyjb|<font color="orange">Talk!</font>]] <small>({{SUBST:CURRENTTIME}}, {{SUBST:CURRENTDAY}} {{SUBST:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{SUBST:CURRENTYEAR}})</small></font>

My desired signature is 284 characters long. Would I be able to get an signature extention? I'd rather not have to use a depreciated HTML tag.

—Tommyjb Talk! (19:23, 29 May 2011)

What's wrong with a plain signature? Personally, I think the current limit is too lax. I'd like to see no custom sigs at all. DuncanHill (talk) 19:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

There are a number of Wikipedian who will just chop off your signature on their talk pages if it takes up more than a given number of lines in an edit box, and others who are distinctly unimpressed with the ostentation of showy signatures. Your current one looks fine. Bielle (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Your signature when used on a talk page is much shorter than the 255-character limit; it's just those magic words that make it too long for the preference box. You could experiment by putting the markup in a sub-page, User:Tommyjb/sig, and then configuring your signature as {{subst:User:Tommyjb/sig}}.

When you create the subpage you will have to replace each "subst:" with <includeonly>subst:</includeonly> so that the magic words are not lost when you save the subpage. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:SIG#NoTemplates suggests using a template like that is forbidden. Rehevkor ✉ 20:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually is says that substitution is permissible but discouraged. From the sounds of the conversation above it appears that this would be one of the exceptions to why it is discouraged. It sounds like it would be shorter than the 255 character limit if it is substituted if I am reading right. GB fan (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Many people object to long sigs due to their look when pages you have signed are being edited. Please keep your sig short enough so as not to be disruptive. 216.93.212.245 (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I suspect putting the date in brackets like that could screw up bots recognising it as a signature too. Rehevkor ✉ 20:06, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know much about Wikipedia bots. I wonder whether that will be a problem. —Tommyjb Talk! (20:38, 29 May 2011)

SineBot must have recognised the date/time in your first post in this thread, otherwise it would have added its {{undated}} comment. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

As alluded to by John of Reading, my (post-processed) signature above is only 170 characters long, well below the 255-character limit. —Tommyjb Talk! (20:32, 29 May 2011)

3 things to discuss

1. Could some help imrove an article about an Inuit created called :Qallunaat!_Why_White_People_Are_Funny? I have sources for the article right here: http://www.beachwalkerfilms.com/prod_det.asp?id=28 http://www.onf-nfb.gc.ca/eng/collection/film/?id=52432 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1368135/combined

2. Should Alexandra Powers go under the category Category:American_atheists because it says in her personal life: "Powers does not adhere to any religion"?

3. Why was the Category:Wikipedians_of_British_descent deleted? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 20:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

As far as #2, you already asked this above and it is being discussed here, #Question about Alexandra Powers. GB fan (talk) 20:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

For #3, see this, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_7#Category:Wikipedians_by_ethnic_or_national_descent_.28and_subcategories.29 GB fan (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Your #1 was deleted as a test page. GB fan (talk) 21:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You asked on my talkpage as well. You've been told to stop doing this. Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Copyright question - where to post

If someone puts in an article an external link to a video that I believe is a copyright violation, do I handle such a problem based on the instructions at WP:CP or WP:MCQ? The media noticeboard seems to be restricted to files, whereas the the copyright problem board seems to be restricted to possible textual violations. Mine is a link to something that is arguably unlawful. What's the right procedure?--Bbb23 (talk) 21:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Remove it first, if it is readded talk to the user that readded it or on the talk page to try and discuss it. Other wise WP:ELN would be the place. CTJF83 21:14, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I removed it and have engaged in an extensive discussion with the editor who defends it. It hasn't yet been readded, but I wanted to know what to do if it is (I'm not going to edit war over it). Also, I was kind of curious anyway. What if the same link were used in the body of the article as opposed to external links? Then where would I go?--Bbb23 (talk) 21:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Since you didn't link to the actual website, I can only guess what the issue is, but possibly: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard or WP:CP like you linked before. CTJF83 21:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

The video is on YouTube here.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

What in the world is the context to link to that?! Point the user to WP:YOUTUBE and let them know it is a copyright violation to link to copyrighted videos. CTJF83 22:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

It's for the Goldie Hawn article. It's a collage of copyrighted film material plus a background audio of a copyrighted song, apparently put together by some user who then posted it to YouTube. To me, it's a clear copyright violation, but I suppose one could try to argue fair use. However, in my view, Wikipedia editors, in this kind of situation, should not be appointing themselves federal judges and making a fair use determination, which is difficult enough to do even for judges. In any event, I pointed all this out to the editor who wanted to insert it. If you want to read our extended discussion on the Hawn Talk page, feel free. I'm not continuing the discussion with him, and I told him so. I already went much further and spent more time on it than it deserved. However, the editor is experienced and civil (I'm a sucker for civility), so I kept going, hoping I would get through to him. The only good news is he hasn't tried to add it back in.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree. CTJF83 00:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Problem with "Tyler Reks" page

Tyler Reks (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The page lists incorrect information under "Personal life" regarding a statement I purportedly made on Twitter. The article states that my wife's name is "Tyler", when in actuality it is "Priscilla". It also states that I states people would chant "Reks Wrecks", which I didn't. I've attempted to remove the false data on numerous occasions only to have it reappear a day later. The reference (#9) is to a blog with an incorrect quote from a Twitter response. The entire article in that section should be removed for incorrect information.

For verification please contact me via Direct Message on my verified Twitter Account, if necessary.

Thank you,

Gabe Tuft (AKA: Tyler Reks) 21:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.10.111 (talk)

I've removed the section as not supported by a reliable source.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

registering awareness ribbon colours

Hi i am working with a group of parents to raise awareness of global developmental delay and we was wondering how we can add our awareness colours to your list of awareness ribbons colour directory? We have already created awareness wristbands in the colours yellow band with black writing and once we have had a qoute for actual ribbons they will be yellow ribbons with black writing on them to saying GDD AWARENESS. many thanks Jan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.13.224.193 (talk) 21:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Any reliable sources claiming your ribbon is notable? CTJF83 21:33, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

original work

In the guidelines is written: "Wikipedia surveys must be existing human knowledge; it is not a place to publish new work." But what about stringtheory? It hasn't ever yet experimentally been proven. It is not existing human knowledge: It is a postulate, or maybe a quess!! So you give me a dammed good answer, why my new work on cosmology is removed!! Info <email removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.68.24 (talk) 22:03, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Dozens of papers and books have been published on string theory. See for example the References, Further reading, and External links sections of String theory. Wikipedia does not publish previously unpublished material like your theory. (I removed your email address because we do not reply via email.) —teb728 t c 00:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

"Hidden" revisions of a page (offline) ??

Hello,

Sorry to disturb you but I experiment a problem on the page Talk:Dominique Strauss-Kahn sexual assault case. I don't know how to resolve it ? I noticed that the discussions on this page seems to be "locked", and all contributions after May 26th are "hidden" to anonymous users (not connected). This is very strange.

I tried to purge cache with the parameter "?action=purge" but nothing appens. Then, I saw on mediawiki that some pages revisions can be "hidden" by using "RevisionDelete" or "Extension:Oversight". I am questionning myself, and maybe an user/admin add this page on "hide revisions/log" with malice ??

Could you help me, and explain to me why all contributions of this page after May 26th are hidden to offline users ?? Thanks a lot !

Nota : You must be "offline" to see the problems (not connected with your login/password)

Esthertree (talk) 22:16, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

There is no way to hide comments from only users who are not logged in (other than something called 'pending changes', but we're not using that any more, and it was never used on talk pages).

Can you see, for example, this? That was added on 29th.

Could it be, perhaps, that your browser is struggling because of the sheer size of that talk page? It's quite a big one, at 391 kB.

Are you using quite an old web browser? Under certain environments, Firefox 2.0 and Internet Explorer 6 are known to have difficulty loading articles over about 400 KB.^[[10]]

If you think it might be browser-related, perhaps you could try updating it. Or, give us more details.

I assure you though, nothing is being hidden. If items are revision-deleted, then only admins can see them - it's just like deletion of an entire page. And if they're oversighted (or 'suppressed'), then only the oversight team can see them (not even admins).

But, there is no function that hides things only from anon users.  Chzz  ►  01:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

(Incidentally - I did log out, and check. The page looks identical, to me, whether I'm logged in or not)  Chzz  ►  01:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

The problem occurs for me too, but I can fix it. My fix might work for you too. Try adding &limit=50 after the page title and before the 'history' part (so the full URL is http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dominique_Strauss-Kahn_sexual_assault_case&limit=50&action=history) I have no idea what causes this but I don't think it's possible that it's related to page hiding or oversight, because even then you'd at least see a line with the words crossed out. —Soap— 01:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

What browser and version are you using, Soap?  Chzz  ►  02:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

May 30

Twinkle no longer working (solved)

Anyone else having this issue? Has Twinkle been disabled? My interface (the tabs) have returned to normal and when viewing prior edits I no longer have the option to perform any rollbacks, its basically as it normally is when Twinkle is disabled except I checked, disabled and reenabled it and it isn't coming back Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

There's a new version of Twinkle being rolled out, and it may have teething troubles (or not work at all).

I think the best place to raise problems with this is, either https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle or Wikipedia talk:Twinkle.  Chzz  ►  01:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I didn't want to have to go through the trouble of signing up to github but I will do so. If there is a new version though you're probably right and that is the issue. Thanks Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Issue solved Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Alexandra Powers and Katharyn_Powers

1. Should Alexandra Powers go under the Category:Former_Buddhists since her personal life has a quote that says "I was a Buddhist for about six months."? 2. Also in Alexandra's mothers article Katharyn_Powers should it say in personal life that she is divorced and that her ex husband teaches acting? I found a source: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,308844,00.htm Neptunekh2 (talk) 01:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

(To both question) - sure, why not, if you want to - be bold. If someone doesn't like it, they can change it back. If you are not too sure - or if someone does remove it - then discuss it on the article talk pages, which are, respectively, Talk:Alexandra Powers and Talk:Katharyn_Powers. See WP:BRD.

Just be extra-careful on any biography of a living person to ensure you cite a reliable source. That ew.com ref looks OK to me. If in doubt as to whether something is a good source, you can always ask on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard (shortcut, WP:RSN).

Because BLP's (bio's of living people) need extra care, it's worth reading WP:BLP too.  Chzz  ►  02:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:BLPCAT says “Categories regarding religious beliefs … should not be used unless … the subject's beliefs … are relevant to their notable activities or public life.” Do you think her former Buddhism is relevant to her notable activities or public life? —teb728 t c 02:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I would go with "No" for #1. WP:BLPCAT, which you've been referred to before, says that they should be in the religious category only if "...the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question; and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant..." She claims to have been a Buddhist for six months. They don't self identify as that now and people experiment with religions throughout their lives. Dismas|^(talk) 02:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

And I have removed the category. GB fan (talk) 02:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

That's WP:BRD in action, and absolutely fair enough. (But a quick comment on the talk would be nice, GB fan)  Chzz  ►  06:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks I have corrected that oversight. GB fan (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Problem with box padding

Hi,

On my user page, I'm getting extra left-padding in the box on the right. I'm not sure how to get rid of this. Does anybody know?

I created a simpler test case in my sandbox. Here is the code:

{{Boxboxtop|About|backgroundcolor=lightblue}}

{{Userboxtop|}}

{{User en}}

{{User Wikipedian for|year=2005|month=12|day=5}}

{{Userboxbottom}}

{{Boxboxbottom}}

The left margin is far bigger than the right margin. Does anyone know how to fix this?

—Tommyjb Talk! (01:58, 30 May 2011)

The same line in which the Wikipedia table of contents is such as "Random article" and "Main Page" is always larger and emptier. That appears for all userpages, example: User:Jimbo. I hope this answers your question, SwisterTwister (talk) 02:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean. In case I wasn't clear, this image illustrates what I'm talking about. —Tommyjb Talk! (02:45, 30 May 2011)

Oh I thought you meant the side of the page. Well, my page shows that space as well...perhaps you can ask at Technical support. SwisterTwister (talk) 05:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've asked there. —Tommyjb Talk! (12:58, 30 May 2011)

Alexandra_Powers

Why can't Alexandra_Powers' article talk about her smoking? Holly_marie_combs article talks about her smoking. Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

The place to discuss changes to the Alexandra Powers article is on the talk page for the article which can be found at Talk:Alexandra Powers. Please take it up there. Dismas|^(talk) 02:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Alexandra Powers Reference is messed up

Could someone please fix Alexandra's reference on her page? I added a reference and it is messed up Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done And again, if you're posting a request here for several people to see, you don't need to post the very same request at my talk page. Dismas|^(talk) 03:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Karis_Paige_Bryant

Could someone clean up an article I started about Charmed actress Karis_Paige_Bryant? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neptunekh2 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 30 May 2011(UTC)

I think that is the second of your new articles that has been speedily deleted today. It might be a good idea to write draft articles in a user sandbox until they are ready to publish. —teb728 t c 03:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm requesting the article about Karis Paige Bryant be undeleted. How can I request the article be undeleted? Neptunekh2 (talk) 04:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. Dismas|^(talk) 04:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Update: the request for undeletion was declined as a non-notable subject, and the title was salted. —teb728 t c 11:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Possessive apostrophe at the end of sentence

I am currently reviewing "Phidippus clarus". This article includes the sentence "Like other jumping spiders, it has vision more acute than a cat's and 10 times more acute than a dragonfly's." Is the grammar used appropriately? Could it be improved? Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I think this should be on the reference desk (language) or the talk page. Kittybrewster ☎ 09:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Images in userspace

Per Wikipedia:NFCC#9. Why? Rcsprinter (talk) 10:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Because they are copyrighted so we just cant use them everywhere, when we use them in an article we use a non-free-use rationale we have to make a case why the copyrighted images should be used. The use in articles is restricted so we only use copyrighted images under certain conditions. On user pages and other non-article pages none of those conditions would every be satisfied because they would be used for decoration, hence the ban. MilborneOne (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Try keying "userspace" into the "Search the archives" at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content, and you will find a selection of past discussions. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I would explain it as a compromise between the point of view that a free encyclopdia should have no non-free content and the point of view that a quality encyclopedia needs non-free content. The compromise is that non-free content is permitted when the encyclopedia actually needs it (and it is permitted under fair use law). The encyclopedia doesn't need it except in articles. —teb728 t c 11:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Feedback - quote marks

Your articles frequently use punctuation marks outside quote marks. Punctuation marks always belong inside the quote marks, in English version anyway. Modern technology has diminished the use of proper language but if you have a choice to get it wrong or get it right, you should get it right. kcd1976 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.195.44 (talk) 10:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

See the Wikipedia style guide - "On Wikipedia, place all punctuation marks inside the quotation marks if they are part of the quoted material and outside if they are not". You are welcome to propose a change to the style guide, by posting at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style, but I am sure the point has been discussed extensively over the years. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

• By the way, there is also a distinct difference in the punctuation in British and American English. - 194.60.106.38 (talk) 11:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

No, they do not "belong inside". They belong outside. For reasons I cannot fathom, some Americans decided to adopt a silly rule. WP has chosen a more reasonable rule.--SPhilbrickT 12:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

It has to do with the practicalities of typesetting with actual type (as opposed to Linotype, etc.) Punctuation inside quotes was a little less likely to break off; or so I've been told. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

List_of_The_Mummy_characters

The article List_of_The_Mummy_characters with The_Scorpion_King_2:_Rise_of_a_Warrior characters needs to be expanded. Can someone please do that? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 11:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Please see the reply #Article needing to be expanded where you asked that question before. —teb728 t c 12:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Shifting existing article to create disambiguation page?

I have created a Wikipedia entry for "Drew Berry (animator)". A page for "Drew Berry" (a journalist) already exists. I think it would be appropriate for the page "Drew Berry" to become a disambiguation page rather than belonging to the journalist, especially as the first sentence of "Drew Berry" (the journalist) begins "Drew Berry is an Emmy Award-winning...", which is also true of "Drew Berry (animator)" who also has an Emmy- so may be confusing for people searching for the animator rather than the journalist.

What I'm hoping to do is to create

• Drew Berry <-disambiguation page.
• Drew Berry (animator)
• Drew Berry (journalist)

My questions are:

• is it ok to shift the content as it stands from the current "Drew Berry" to a new page, "Drew Berry (journalist)" so "Drew Berry" can then be written as a disambiguation page?
• if I do this, is there a way to locate the current wikipedia links to "Drew Berry" and redirect them to "Drew Berry (journalist)"? I am not intending to cause problems for Drew Berry (journalist); I just think there will be people searching for "Drew Berry (animator)" who could be confused between the two if they land on the journalist's page.

Thanks Vanessa.

Vsolomon (talk) 11:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Normally we don't create a disambiguation page for two articles. One article has a hatnote directing people to the other article. I have added a hat note on Drew Berry telling people if they are looking for the animator to go to Drew Berry (animator). Just as a side note the Drew Berry article need to be worked on. GB fan (talk) 12:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I added a hatnote, mutatis mutandes, to Drew Berry (animator)--SPhilbrickT 12:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

RC in one category but not another one

Is there a tool which displays related changes of articles which belong to one category but not another one? Thanks in advance --151.75.64.82 (talk) 12:36, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Robotics?

is robotics a part of electronics and telecommunications???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.237.140.27 (talk) 14:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

How can i turn the WIKIPEDIA background color into black?

turning background color into black makes it easier to read for many people.

also, computers save energy by displaying black background tone rather than white, if wikipedia did this, they would help the world save a lot of energy.

one example for inspiration: blackle.com

A Black Google Would Save 750 Megawatt-hours a Year. what about wiki???

thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.62.191 (talk) 14:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

A black background is very hard for most of us to read, and would not be appropriate for editing at all. Bielle (talk) 14:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

If you create an account and log in then you can select "Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin" at Special:Preferences#preftab-9. It may give unfortunate colors for some things. The power reduction is generally for CRT monitors which are less used today. LCD monitors often use more power when black. See http://techlogg.com/2010/05/black-vs-white-screen-power-consumption-24-more-monitors-tested/17. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Many browsers allow you to blackify yourself. For example, in Firefox, go to tools → options → content tab → colors → change the background to black and the text to whatever you'd like and then untick the option for "Allow pages to choose their own colors, instead of my selection above."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

How to delete user subpage

Hi,

Somebody created User_talk:Tommyjb/Sandbox, and I want to delete this. Could somebody tell me how? Thanks. —Tommyjb Talk! (15:26, 30 May 2011)

just add {{db-userreq}} to the page. GB fan (talk) 15:30, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. —Tommyjb Talk! (15:32, 30 May 2011)

Woodstock Festival 1969

I have some photos from the Festival that I can't recognize. One is of a violinist with what looks like a red or blond afro, a bass player with shoulder length dark afro and lead guitar, bald, with some beard. I've been told it is the Flock, but as far as I remember, Flock did not appear there. Any other ideas or memories wiould be appreciated. Thanks, Bobby T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.44.160 (talk) 15:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Getting the runaround in Wikipedia

I thought this was solved long time ago. I am using an shared broadband connection and apparently someone under this single IP address is using Tor sometimes. I am not using Tor or any other anonymising service. I explained this to a friendly admin, and he set up an exemption from IP blocking for my account some time ago. And it worked fine then. (For me at en.wikipedia and de.wikipedia!)

But now suddenly I am blocked again because of Tor activity on the IP address I am using. This is annoying already, but it got totally mega annoying when I - again - followed all the good and nice explanations and recommendations that followed, cursing silently. I don't like being sent from pillar to post.

"You have been blocked because it has been detected that you are using Tor ... bla bla ... you need to request an account ..." - what? I have an account and I am logged in! - "... and then request block exemption." - I did that long time ago, see my talk page.

Well. So I went to Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption. Much text to read, then the useful hint: "A user affected by an IP block that is unrelated to their editing and that prevents them editing with a logged-in account. - How to request.": Wikipedia:APPEAL. "7. I want to edit Wikipedia, but I keep getting blocked because of others on the same network as me!" - not quite helpful - "Requesting to be unblocked" - okay. "Instructions for requesting an unblock will be placed on your talk page or in the block explanation." - no it wasn't or it was too well hidden for me to see it. - "The preferred way to appeal a block is to use the {{{unblock}}} template, but you can also contact the blocking administrator or appeal by email." - okay let's see the unblock template - "The following should be placed on your talk page:" - well I would like to, but when trying to edit my own talk page it says: "You have been blocked because it has been detected that you are using Tor ..." - back to the beginning!

Well, I still might try to contact an administrator. Maybe the friendly one who created the block exemption before. But guess what - "You have been blocked because it has been detected that you are using Tor ..." - arghh!

Other ways to get help, the IRC chat maybe? No of course not. "Joining chat room... You are banned from this server - Due to abuse we currently accept tor connections via our tor-sasl service only ..." - sigh. This "tor-sasl" service is some service within tor, but since I am not using tor (and neither have a registered account at freenode) I can not use that. The webchat? - "Your reported IP is banned".

This is so frustrating. All that fuss just because I wanted to correct a tiny error on a Wikipedia page.

I wish I knew a solution for these problems. Do I actually need to appeal the block again, or is it some kind of error in MediaWiki? Should I send an Email as described in Wikipedia:Guide_to_appealing_blocks (one further page about the same topic), or try using the template?

[PS: And how was I able to post here? Luckily I could set up an alternative internet connection using my mobile phone as a modem. It's kind of slow and expensive, but at least this IP address is not blocked.]