Talk:Sarah Palin

Palin's mayoral tenure

I believe that Palin resigned months in advance of the expiration of her term in order to devote her time to her unsuccessful campaign for Lt. Governor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Activist (talk • contribs) 17:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Your belief is incorrect. Palin was succeeded as mayor of Wasilla by Dianne Keller, who was sworn on October 14, 2002. This document (Agenda/Minutes) from the Wasilla City Council shows City Council member Dianne Keller attending the meeting (in the "Roll Call" section), and then notes her swearing in as mayor in the "Special Orders" section, after which it notes the presentation of a plaque to outgoing mayor Sarah Palin. Palin's term ended in October because her successor received 43.7% of the votes;[1] there is only a runoff election when no candidate receives more than 40% of the votes,[2] and the mayor is sworn in on the first Monday after the election results are certified.[3] Since there were only 987 ballots cast, certification was not an arduous process.

Some bozo at answers.com claiming that she resigned does not make it so. Horologium (talk) 19:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Municipal officeholders in Alaska are usually sworn in within days or weeks after the election, unless there is a runoff, that is true. Nothing special related to Wasilla or to Palin. Since we're revisiting Palin's tenure as mayor, I wanted to revisit the rankings which were created for Wasilla's mayors. They have all since been removed, including Palin's entry. To recap, the list of mayors of Wasilla that was created, presumably in response to all the media attention given to Palin several years ago, failed to include any mayors from nearly the first full decade of Wasilla's existence as an incorporated city. Leo M. Nunley was the first mayor of Wasilla, as I faintly recall, yet he isn't on the list. Neither is Pat Hjellen, who succeeded Nunley. Dorothy Page is listed in the body of her article as a former mayor of Wasilla, and is listed in Category:Mayors of Wasilla, Alaska, yet is not on the list. In other words, someone created something and just left it with major problems for everyone else to clean up. The response since has been to compound these problems rather than address them. Ultimately, it doesn't help that the City of Wasilla keeps anything of a historical nature found on its website as carefully hidden or non-obvious as possible. To that, I'm pretty sure you Palinistas are to blame, as they're probably afraid of their servers being immobilized every time "Sarah Palin is trending" or whatever and people rush like lemmings to "find out more."RadioKAOS (talk) 02:57, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Questioning another dubious addition

How does Sarah Palin qualify for inclusion in Category:State cabinet secretaries of Alaska? Chair of the AOGCC is not a cabinet-level position. If anything, it's one of the more high-profile out of probably hundreds of boards and commissions in Alaska state government, but it has nothing to do with the governor's cabinet, which I presume is the purpose of that category.RadioKAOS (talk) 03:31, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Accuracy issue

Regarding the bridge to nowhere section, the Wikipedia page says: "Alaska chose not to return the $442 million in federal transportation funds.[115]"However, if you check reference 115, it says the amount was $223 million, not $442 million. The claim does not match the cited source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.124.239 (talk) 02:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Track Palin marriage

There has been a bit of a back-and-forth over the inclusion of his marriage in this article; consequently, there should be a discussion.

I am of the mind that the information does not belong in the article, because it is about Track, not about his mother. If Track Palin ever gets an article of his own (not likely, but possible) it would belong there, but not here. Just as we have excluded discussions of the activities of Willow Palin, Bristol Palin and Levi Johnston in this article (the first is a redirect to this article; the other two eventually merited articles of their own), we should not be using this article to discuss Track. In this case there is no BLP concern, but its inclusion is simply a case of undue weight: Track's marriage is not relevant to a biography of Sarah Palin.

If someone can demonstrate why this needs to be included, I am open to changing my mind, but as it stands I don't see any valid rationale for its inclusion. Horologium (talk) 02:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I think a bare mention of this fact is useful to the article for sake of comprehensiveness, especially since the subject is not notable and does not have his own article. If someone is looking for facts about Palin's personal life, there is no need to make the reader look elsewhere for this non-controversial data.Jarhed (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

It's not relevant to Sarah Palin as an encyclopedic figure, though. Levi Johnston, to use the example of another of her children's beaus, had an impact on Palin. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:16, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I find that a very odd thing to say. Of course the marriage of Palin's oldest son is relevant to Palin as an encyclopedic figure. This is especially so since his entry into the military was a very public part of the 2008 election. For anyone looking for this data, in Palin's article in the section on her personal life is where he or she would naturally expect to find it.Jarhed (talk) 02:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how this is relevant to her BLP. I still agree with the previous consensus that mention of family should be limited to immediate family members, and then only by name and relation. If we start listing in-laws, next we'll have cousins, uncles, aunts, and then entire genealogies. The purpose of this article is to provide readers with information about the subject, that is, a better understanding of Palin. Personal information regarding her children does not seem to fulfill that goal.

I am also a firm believer in a private citizen's right to keep their privacy. Being related to a notable person, whether by blood or by marriage, does not make that person notable. Even if the information is found in a reliable source, there is no need to repeat it unless Track becomes notable enough to have his own article, in which case, mention of his immediate family members would be appropriate. Zaereth (talk) 04:51, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Track is not a notable figure. His wife certainly isn't. Whether or not he has one isn't encyclopedic. It's not relevant to Sarah Palin's BLP. You haven't suggested why it is. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:57, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Agree with the comments above that the relationships her children engage in (marriage or otherwise) are not relevant to her biography here. For (obvious) reasons stated in the article, Levi Johnston was an exception; Britta Hanson is not. jæs (talk) 07:44, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Add Palin links from Get the Energy Sector off the Dole

Add Palin links from Get the Energy Sector off the Dole. 99.181.132.99 (talk) 06:34, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

And possibly others: Sarah Palin, Tea Partier in Name Only, Defends Big Oil Subsidies from Good (magazine) 4.May.2011, for contrast. 99.181.132.99 (talk) 06:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Within this wp article wikilink "mitigation" to Global warming mitigation.

Within this wp article wikilink "mitigation" to Global warming mitigation. 99.181.132.99 (talk) 06:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)