Talk:History of cannons

Machiavelli Quote

Maybe I'm wrong, but I do not believe Machiavelli ever said, "There is no wall, whatever its thickness that artillery will not destroy in only a few days." Search for it yourself:

1. http://www.constitution.org/mac/artofwar.txt
2. http://books.google.com/books?id=Hi80GUS30D0C&lpg=PP1&ots=uxZKJprDpe&dq=0226500462&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.118.228 (talk) 05:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Move

I moved this to the plural so that it fits History of firearms and other such articles. It also sounds really odd as singular. gren グレン 22:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

According to the main Cannon article, "cannon" is both the singular and the plural. In the cannon series, that is the plural used. --Grimhelm 06:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. Someone fixed my mistake. It still sounds odd to me but my move was premature and based on my usage--not proper English. gren グレン 07:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

The article should be moved to "History of the cannon", I think--WoodElf 08:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC).

Why so? We don't have "History of the firearms", do we? --Grimhelm 11:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

To me this reads as awkwardly as “History of sword”; please change it to something else. ―cobaltcigs 10:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Good Article status on hold

This article is very close to passing the GA criteria: the prose is very good, the referencing is excellent, and the photos are well-sourced. The only part of the article that is not GA-status is the "Modern cannon" section. The lead-in refers to cannon in the past tense ("Cannon were large tubular...") and omits any reference to modern cannon. Additionally, the "Modern cannon" section itself feels like a collection of facts rather than a section of the article: its one-sentence paragraphs drift off into related armaments like mortars and howitzers, and generally stray from the "History of Cannon" topic.

Extend the lead-in and fix the "Modern cannon" section, and it will pass the GA criteria. Let me know via my talk page in the next week. Tlesher 02:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

How is it now? --Grimhelm 12:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

In a word, good. Thanks for your hard work! Tlesher 16:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

First use of cannons?

Its my understanding that the use of cannons in China preceded the use in Europe by more than a hundred years, and that the technology was transferred through the Middle East or by the Mongols. Shouldn't the introduction reflect this? Also, are English Cannon so notable that they should be mentioned in the introduction? --lk 06:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Have changed and reorganized introduction. Please discuss for balance and NPV.--lk 10:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

We aren't in 1981

"Today, United States 152 mm artillery fires Shillelagh missiles, which are guided to their targets by infra-red beams" is not true. MGM-51 Shillelagh was retired years ago. Perhaps something about precision-guided munitions, such as the XM982 Excalibur, could be added, but my English isn't up to task. 190.224.85.197 (talk) 02:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

GA Sweeps

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Jackyd101 (talk) 12:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Version 0.7

This article was nominated for manual review, then after it was passed, someone else proposed its removal (too much duplicate content with cannon). I will discuss the issue with the relevant people - please leave any comments below. We'll try to get a consensus on whether or not it should be included. Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 09:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You would probably have more success discussing this over at Talk:Cannon, more people watch that page. The reason why this page is nearly a copy of Cannon is that the history section of Cannon was better than this article, so we replaced it (I discussed it with Grimhelm, who had done quite a bit of work on both articles), because the main page date for Cannon was too soon for this article to be improved. · AndonicO ^Engage. 11:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Islamic World

Why is the adal general Ahmed Gurey not added, as he is the first african commander to use canon on the african continent? And the Adal Sultanate was part of the Islamic world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.208.136 (talk) 18:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)