Talk:Derek Jeter

Picture problem

The picture "Derek Jeter Hit -2722.jpg" depicts someone else, not Jester. By the looks of it, he is African-American. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.156.244 (talk) 10:29, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Mr. November

POSADA TOOK OUT IN HOME AT JEREMY GIAMBI NOT JASON GIAMBI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.67.196.68 (talk) 16:40, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Jeter tagged out at the plate not jason giambi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.200.89 (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC) jeter did not tag out anyone he backed up a bad cutoff throw and flipped the ball to jorge posada at the plate who then tagged jeremy giambi who failed to slide into home plate.

Uh, is it just me, or is it obvious that the tag was missed? Whether he slid or not, he was safe. I think that should be in the article--"From no angle in the replay did it appear that the call was correct. Despite this glaring error, the play went down in history as one of the greatest ever." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.228.20 (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The tag was made, you can't insert something like that without a source, and though I'm sure a blogger or two has posted this, the mainstream press does not share your sentiment. --Muboshgu (talk) 06:09, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

In the section entitled "1999–2002," following the explanation of his (brief) nickname "Mr. November," Jeter is incorrectly identified as only the third athlete in New York City history to receive such a moniker. In fact, Dave Winfield was disparagingly annointed "Mr. May," by no less an authority as George Steinbrenner, following the former's poor performance in the 1981 postseason. So, technically, that makes Jeter no. 4.... Frankly this sort of tally should be left out of wikipedia, since we can't be certain that the author of the claim has done the research necessary to support it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.165.188 (talk) 11:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

That's sensible. I took that part out. --Muboshgu (talk) 02:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

A couple of things

I think it's obvious that this page is overly long, and I'm trying to condense it.

There was an unnecessary paragraph about the Yankee players taking exception to his 2003 injury with Ken Huckaby, and about Huckaby and Jeter's run-in later on. I remember the play and the follow-up quite well. Put simply, the article makes it seem a bigger incident than it was, and the inclusion of a section about Yankee player reaction (with no proper context, or opposing player's remarks) tends to paint a biased picture that the play was dirty or noteworthy for being unnecessary. The catcher made a play to block Jeter off the bag, and he fell on the guy. There was nothing at the time about the play being particularly dirty in any legitimate media source, so giving a hint that it was is unfair...and in the framework of Jeter's long career, we don't need half of a subsection devoted to discussion how his teammates felt.

Also, some of these statistics are getting out of hand:

In 2006 Jeter led the major leagues in highest groundball/flyball ratio (3.23; 313/97) and batting average on balls in play (.394),[15] and tied for the American League lead in steals of third base (12).

First of all, we need context. Second of all, these stats are obscure and not necessarily reflective of him being an exceptional player. His career is not defined by them at all. Why not tell me he's the all-time leader in hits by men with 5-letter last names that begin with J, who were born in New Jersey, also? Statistically speaking, a player's batting average on balls in play (BABIP) is completely non-reflective of his abilities. Someone like Neifi Perez could very easily lead that category in a given season, and it would mean nothing. I imagine the person who posted this probably knew that. It has an extremely minor correlation to a player's ability, but in general some of the better players in the game (pitchers and hitters) can have poor BABIP in a given season based entirely on luck. It has no purpose. And telling me that Jeter was tied for most steals of third in a season? C'mon guys. This page needs much better context and foresight on the part of its editors. It needs responsible editing...not reckless, haphazard, non-contextualized stuff like this. In the scheme of the man's career, there needs to be some REAL condensing of this page. And if you're going to mention something, it needs to be put in proper framework.

Third, do we really need a table with his year-to-year salaries over the course of his career? The exact same table is provided at one of the links at the bottom of the page (baseball-reference), and it takes up an absurd amount of room which detracts from the flow of the page. It's not particularly pertinent to anything, and is hardly the standard amongst MLB player pages on Wikipedia.

Last thing: I'm no expert with this, but could someone please shrink the statbox toward the bottom? It's really tall and rather distracting...needs to be compressed more like the stat sheets on other pages? Maybe the font is too big? Not sure.

I would advise those of you editing this page who are not familiar with the Wikipedia baseball project to take a look at it, or at least look at other (current or otherwise) player pages to get an idea of what information generally fits into these pages. Thanks.President David Palmer (talk) 10:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with a lot of this. I shortened the bit on the 2003 injury. I took out the earnings and the stats table, which are not necessary for wikipedia and readers can learn about from external links. I want to get this article up to FA status, and I'll work on it some more. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Gold Gloves error

In the section about "Defensive criticisms," the paragraph incorrectly states that Jeter has won 2 Gold Glove awards when, in fact, he has won 3. - Jonohull (talk) 20:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

He is a tax cheat

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3231419

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311830,00.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/16/2007-11-16_taxman_derek_jeter_cheated_new_york_out_-1.html

He stole millions from the government; why on earth is this not mentioned? 72.47.38.205 (talk) 22:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

If you want to put it in, put it in. Or I (or someone else) will get to it at some point. But saying things like "tax cheat" and "stole millions from the government" violate WP:NPOV. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:35, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

 Done It's now in the "Personal life" section. --Muboshgu (talk) 16:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Tony Fernandez

How come there's no mention of Tony Fernandez in this article? If Fernadez didn't get hurt Jeter wouldn't have been the opening day shortstop in 1996. --JohnnyDrama233 (talk) 22:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

First, I don't know that's the case, and it would have to be verifiable to be included. Jeter was an early first round choice for the Yankees, so he clearly didn't "luck" into the job. He did very well in Triple A in 1995. Second, if it were the case, it's merely coincidental and not encyclopedic. --Muboshgu (talk) 22:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I found a source from December 2005 saying that Torre was going with Jeter as his opening day starter, and Fernandez would play a utility role. That's now in the article. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:56, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Update Jeter's postseason average.

It states as of 2006. His post-season average is now .309. This is as of his last post-season appearance in 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kungfudanyo (talk • contribs) 13:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done You were right, those stats were out of date. --Muboshgu (talk) 01:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

In this context, I have reverted an undo of my using "good postseason performer" instead of "exceptional". Jeter's postseason record is good, arguably very good, and on a par with his career stats. But is is not "exceptional", unless someone can show that no one else has equalled his performances. Bear in mind, too, that many of the postseason records he holds are down to his longevity and years of consistency. And the use of "exceptional" arguably contravenes Wiki policy in a number of areas. Regards, bigpad (talk) 13:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I have reworded part of this section to keep it in line with the article's introduction, which cites his "reliable" postseason performances. If anyone disagrees with what's in the intro., please revise both areas and add a citation that his Oct-Nov. record is "exceptional". We can't have the text contradicting itself. bigpad (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm good with the changes. --Muboshgu (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

World Series Dates

Missing 1996.

Pardon? --Muboshgu (talk) 12:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

False information prohibited

False information should not be in the article if we know it is false. If we didn't know it, then it is an honest mistake.

Derek's parents met in West Germany. They were not East German defectors. That was the commonly used name. Back in those days, it was East Germany and West Germany. However, some stupid reporters, probably young folks, have written just "Germany" because the East/West cold war was 20+ years old, when those reporters were in diapers.

So we should make sure that we don't report wrong.

Another example would be if a report by USA Today made a mistake and said Jeter hit 815 home runs. We cannot then write "Jeter has hit 815 home runs. (source: USA Today, October 2, 2009, p. 1)."

If you are oppose to accuracy and insist that inaccurate and wrong facts be allowed as long as there is a source, then vote below. PresChicago (talk) 03:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

The sources say "Germany", so we stick with "Germany". Adding "West Germany" with the qualifier that it is now Germany unnecessarily clutters an article currently in Featured Article candidacy. --Muboshgu (talk) 03:18, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I did not know it was a Featured Article candidate. If so, accuracy shows that it is not sloppy. If the parenthesis is objected to, then the name used at the time should be used by itself. That's ok with me. PresChicago (talk) 03:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Original research is what is objected to. It is not wrong to say "Germany" per the sources- it is how the country was frequently referred to unless a specific political point was being made. For example, the article on Elvis Presley accurately reflects what the sources (and everybody who talked about it at the time) said: he served in Germany. Your parenthetical commentary is OR. No one is opposed to accuracy - but note that Wikipedia's standard is verifiability, not accuracy. Muboshgu is right - and you aren't getting the point. Tvoz/talk 05:37, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I may have encouraged his getting sidetracked by mentioning the FAC. Verifiability and the absence of OR are important for all articles, not just those being considered for promotion. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:58, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

examples of the correct way found in wikipedia

Tymoshenko is the daughter of Ludmila Nikolaevna Telegina and Vladimir Abramovich Grigean (her father left the family when Yulia was three years old). She was born in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukrainian SSR (now Ukraine). —Preceding unsigned comment added by PresChicago (talk • contribs) 03:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

He joined the then-Anaheim Angels in 2001 as a free agent, but played only a handful of games before establishing himself during the 2002 season as the Angels backup catcher for his brother, Bengie. (Wikipedia article of Jose Molina, great Yankee's catcher) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PresChicago (talk • contribs) 03:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

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That has to be the longest list of related boxes ive ever seen :O ResMar 16:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

If Derek Jeter didn't have so many accomplishments, he wouldn't have so many navboxes. --Muboshgu (talk) 13:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Lucille ( nee Jeter) Hendrix. Jimi's Mother's name / Dr. Sanderson Charles Jeter. Derek's Father's name

Probably coincidence only if not entirely far fetched. Just like Derek's middle name being Sanderson for his Father not Derek Sanderson. It begs the Question of whether Hendrix Mom And Jeter's Dad have any relation what so ever? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.211.134 (talk) 19:26, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure that's a coincidence. --Muboshgu (talk) 19:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

He's getting married!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supposedly he's getting married to Minka Kelly. She's a beautiful girl congrats to Jetes. Add it. Here's a source. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/report-derek-jeter-to-get-married-to-minka-kelly-011010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DA Fernandez (talk • contribs) 20:52, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

The reporting on this is flimsy even for the New York Post, and all the wire reports are merely citing the Post's story. It actually makes more sense for this to be a wedding for Jeter's sister because she is engaged to someone and because weddings are often listed under the bride's name. Fishyfred (talk) 16:01, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I know the Post is an iffy source, but I hadn't thought about it being Jeter's sister. I was leaning towards letting it stay in the article with an emphasis on the fact that it's unconfirmed, but you're right in that it shouldn't be included. --Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Inconsistency in his Awards Chart

There is a minor error in the chart that lists Derek Jeter's awards. Under Silver Sluggers, Jeter is listed as having won 3; yet, there are four years listed directly to the right of this. In order to complete the update, the chart should say that he has won 4 Silver Sluggers. Gmanzi (talk) 21:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)gmanzi

Other Notable Awards

Derek Jeter has won the Joe Dimaggio "Toast of the Town" Award in 1999 and 2009, respectively. This award is on par with the Babe Ruth Award, which is already listed, insofar as both the Joe Dimaggio Award and Babe Ruth Award are presented annually by the New York chapter of the BBWAA. For confirmation that Jeter was the 1999 award recipient, see http://www.new-york-yankees-baseball.com/new-york-yankees-derek-jeter.htm For confirmation that Jeter was the 2009 award recipient, see http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/award_touches_rod_MwWghGY6cMA5i68eE43dwJ Gmanzi (talk) 18:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)gmanzi

Alt text

I don't have time to fix it... the "alt" text for the captions here is pretty bad. "A man in a jersey". It's Derek Jeter!. It should say "Jeter does blah" or whatever. Otherwise those captions are just horrible. — Timneu22 · talk 17:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

We discussed the alt text in the featured article review. Alt text isn't supposed to use proper names, as it's designed for the blind, and telling them its Derek Jeter doesn't mean much when you have no idea what he looks like. --Muboshgu (talk) 17:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Completely disagree. Describe Jeter somewhere else, or describe what he is wearing. Jeter, in a gray uniform with black spikes.... Just saying "a man" is pointless. Which man? I believe that was a horrible decision. — Timneu22 · talk 17:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't my ruling or idea. It's apparently Wikipedia standards. We the sighted really have no use for alt text. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I just started a conversation at Wikipedia talk:ALT; just saying "a man" is pointless. What if an article has a picture of the subject, then of something related to the subject? (You know, like one of Jeter, and one of Arod.) This is the stupidest WP idea I've ever encountered!! — Timneu22 · talk 18:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Derek Jeter's Favorite Foods

Derek Jeter loves to eat pancakes and waffles. He said that when he soaks it in Coca Cola, it makes him relaxed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackd2222 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 68.193.70.195, 23 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Derek Jeter does not have 3000 hits as is claimed in his achievements. As of June, 22, before their late game, he has 2830, you can check espn.com or baseball reference.com http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/H_career.shtml

Everyone who watches baseball knows that you do not add the postseason stats on to career hits in order to get total hits

68.193.70.195 (talk) 00:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done ESPN agrees, and the article now reflects that. ^Avicenna_sis @ 03:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

English?

Where did the information that Derek Jeter is English and was born in Manchester, England come from? Every source I have seen says he was born in New Jersey. This includes the ESPN piece cited by this article that states "Jeter was born on June 26, 1974 in Pequannock, N.J." Even if he really was born in England, both of his parents are Americans who were overseas while serving in the U.S. Army. That would not make him English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckygoon (talk • contribs) 23:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Best man at Posda's wedding

Citation needed? How's this:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0910/derek.jeter.off.the.field/content.12.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.162.83 (talk) 02:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 204.76.13.77, 3 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Derek Jeter was born in Chilton Memorial Hospital - Pequannock, NJ

204.76.13.77 (talk) 18:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shearonink (talk) 21:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Other Appearances

He had a cameo in the film Anger Management, as did Roger Clemens. The page for Clemens contains this information; please add it to Jeter's as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.120.223 (talk) 15:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done You're right, and conveniently enough the source on The Other Guys also mentions his cameo in Anger Management. --Muboshgu (talk) 16:04, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Sections

We don't need a section for every season; some of those sections are only one sentence. His career should be split into sections for his debut (1995), the dynasty (1996-2001), and his captaincy (2003-present) in some manner. I'm still thinking about some of the details. His career seems very constant, so not conducive to natural section breaks. --Muboshgu (talk) 15:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Hospital of birth

The article states "Jeter was born at Central Manchester Hospital, Pequannock, New Jersey in 1974." There has never been a hospital called Central Manchester Hospital in Pequannock Township, NJ. There is only one hospital in the area. It is named Chilton Memorial Hospital and is in the Pompton Plains section of Pequannock Township. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.112.42 (talk) 18:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you provide a citation of this? --Muboshgu (talk) 18:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

While it was still uncited then, it was changed in a vandal edit in mid-July. [1] Clean up afterwords missed the hospital name. I know it means nothing, but as a Morris County resident I can verify that there is no Central Manchester Hospital and Chilton Memorial Hospital exists. --Michael Greiner 21:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I took it out entirely. Not because I don't believe you (I do), but because there's no source for the hospital of birth in the first place, and I don't think it's notable. --Muboshgu (talk) 03:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

"Offence"

It's offense. If he were an Englishman, playing an English game, then offence might be acceptable. There should be no instance of "colour", "aluminium", or any other alternate spellings when dealing with an American. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.198.84 (talk) 15:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I didn't know why that was there at all so I just removed the header. --Muboshgu (talk) 00:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.116.41.232, 4 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} 2926 hits - 1135 rbi's as of end of 2010 regular season

98.116.41.232 (talk) 23:00, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. elektrikSHOOS 00:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

No, it's  Done. The page lists reliable sources that convey that data. --Muboshgu (talk) 00:56, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

"all-time hits leader among shortstops"

The page said Jeter is the all-time hits leader among shortstops. He's not:

1. Honus Wagner - 3420
2. Cal Ripkin - 3184
3. Derek Jeter - 2926

Don't revert it back to that when you know it's wrong (you know who you are). If you have something accurate to say, post it and cite it. Don't forget the cite! guanxi (talk) 04:29, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Jeter passed Luis Aparicio (not Ripken or Wagner, who played other positions) for most hits as a shortstop in August 2009. Whoever put that in didn't cite it, but I found the citation.[2]. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:36, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Honus Wagner and Cal Ripkin, Jr. aren't shortstops? C'mon, you know the statement in the article is misleading at best; you said yourself it was unclear. Why persist? guanxi (talk) 04:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say they weren't shortstops, I said they also played other positions. Jeter has more hits as a shortstop than anyone else. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I see now, it's cited in the "Milestones" section but wasn't cited in the lede. That can happen from time to time. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Other apperances

I just wanted to mention that Jeter also appeared in the commercials for the 2010 season of the television show rescue me, the commercials ran on fx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.105.198 (talk) 02:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

He did. It needs a citation to be included though. --Muboshgu (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Time to step back (WP:OWN)

I understand some editors are enthusiastic about a subject and often they contribute most of the content; that's great. All that effort can make them feel a sense of Ownership, which is understandable, but in the Encyclopedia Anyone Can Edit, it doesn't work so well. At this point, one editor is reverting others and getting final say on the article. While I understand the spirit, it may be time to step back and let go, and let others determine the content and direction of the article. guanxi (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Free Agent??

Derek Jeter shouldn't be considered a free agent at the moment, because free agent filing doesn't begin until 11/7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyynym25 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

And why doesn't it say anything about him being (or going to be) released by the Yankees? It is very relevant. I can't find it anywhere, at least not where it presumably should be. I could fix it but I don't know much about baseball, let alone Jeter. Aediasse (talk) 17:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

He is a free agent... thus he is not currently employed by the Yankees....so saying he was "released" would be inaccurate. Spanneraol (talk) 18:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

There's not much for us to add at this point. The back-and-forth in the media about the contract negotiations isn't appropriate at this time, and I'm glad that nobody has tried to add it. A brief postmortem about it will be added after he signs a new contract. --Muboshgu (talk) 20:09, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

2010 gold glove`

the artilce must be updated regardign the joke that Jeter won the gold glove. it is widely known that he has one of worst ranges of all shortstops. thank you, --Dontlikeitinthetuchis (talk) 19:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

It is a fact that he won the award... and it should be reported as such. "worst ranges of all shortstops" is your opinion and opinion doesnt belong. Spanneraol (talk) 22:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

see this http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2010/11/10/2010-11-10_derek_jeters_selection_as_american_league_gold_glover_at_shortstop_exposes_flaws.html. its my opinion, but also the opinion of reliable sources. if everyone would quit yelling at me and do a little research, Wikipedia might not be such a big joke.--Dontlikeitinthetuchis (talk) 22:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

The section Player profile already addresses the information you mention. Please be aware that Wikipedia's civility rules are important. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Information added for his defense specific to 2010. Its getting a lot of press and needs to be balanced if GG is going to go somewhere other than "Profile" section. Bagumba (talk) 03:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a mistake to add that information about this award. To a lay reader a discussion of "advanced defensive matrixs" is meaningless.. the article should stick to the facts... he won the gold glove... and avoid subjective statistical analysis. Spanneraol (talk) 03:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm undecided. Things like UZR could use more context, if this remains. Certainly the edit that was made, which I made a slight copy edit to, is more productive than calling the award "a joke". --Muboshgu (talk) 04:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Can replace with "sabermetrics", or do a "See also" to sabermetrics. I dont believe a reader has to understand how its measured. They only need to know that there is a group that doesnt believe Gold Glove is synonymous with Jeter being the "best" defensive AL shortstop in 2010, and its getting coverage in reliable sources. Bagumba (talk) 06:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I've resolved my ambivalence. It didn't belong in the "baseball career" section, so I moved it to the "player profile" section, with the other talk of Jeter's defensive shortcomings. It has a few rough edges that could be smoothed out, but otherwise I'm okay with it staying in that section. --Muboshgu (talk) 15:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

"Player profile" seems to be 1) reciting some postseason statistics that could arguably be either be put in lead section or represented in tabular form, and 2) citations regarding opinions/analysis of his defense. Unless there is more substance added (and not just reciting a stat sheet) to this section (e.g baserunning, batting, leadership, "clutch", etc), I'm thinking the section should be renamed "Defense". For now, I'll add subsections as "Postseason Performance" and "Defense" Bagumba (talk) 10:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Luis Aparacio retired with 2,528 games in the field, all of them at shortstop. That's fairly noteworthy, in that most players with long careers eventually move to less-demanding positions, so it's unusual to still be the best glove on the team right to the end. I find that Jeter has played only shortstop on defense, over 2,274 games in the field, and could beat Looie's number in two more years, provided that they don't move him. WHPratt (talk) 18:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

That's a good point, and it might be worthy of inclusion here, but only if it's properly backed up by sources. --Muboshgu (talk) 01:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

What, the games played numbers? They're as well-established as any fact, and would be confirmed by ANY of the sources quoted on this page (baseballreference, retrosheet, Sporting News, N Y Times ...). I'm sure that most people here would agree with that. WHPratt (talk) 12:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

(If you're looking for an "asterisk" here, I would admit that Jeter has some games as a dh. That means that there were times that he was in a game and someone else was playing shortstop, something that never happened to Aparicio, who never played an inning anywhere else. WHPratt (talk) 14:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC))

I mean that how many games he has played at SS isn't necessarily relevant to his ability to field the position. That may seem counterintuitive, but consider that the Yankees don't have an open position to move Jeter. The fact that he's still at short is about more than his fielding ability. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Clearly I'm thinking about this in terms of his defensive reputation. It can be included if there's no connotation about what it means regarding his defensive skills (or lack thereof, as some feel). --Muboshgu (talk) 14:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Of course. I just tossed that in as something that I found interesting. It's not a 100% positive statistic. An athlete who has "lost a step" and can't play shortstop adequately might contribute to the team at a less-demanding defensive position provided his offense is still good enough. (Examples: Harvey Kuenn, Ernie Banks, Cal Ripken.) But nobody was going to move someone like Mark Belanger to keep his bat in the lineup. Aparicio found himself ideally situated between these two extremes: his hitting was good enough for a great shortstop, but not enough for a very good shortstop, and not enough to keep him around as a thirdbaseman or left fielder, although he would have been a great gloveman elsewhere. If anybody wants to argue where Jeter fits along that spectrum, they can use it as a point, pro or con. WHPratt (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Ginzo66, 11 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} someone changed team history info

Ginzo66 (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. elektrikSHOOS 01:41, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I believe this is referring to the fact that someone changed the infobox to say he was on the Red Sox. I've reverted that vandalism. --Muboshgu (talk) 01:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Consistent postseason performances

Jeter is noted for his very consistent postseason performances

Using a citation to a career stat page to back up this claim in Derek Jeter#Player_profile is not sufficient. The reader can subjectively interpret it either way looking at the year by year numbers due to small sample of games each postseason. And this applies to an avid or a passing baseball fan. Need to find statements from people that back this up and say who said it. Relying on the stat sheet alone is WP:OR at best Bagumba (talk) 09:59, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

That's not too difficult. The Yankees beat writers write about that every week or so. I'll look for a good example later. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Dad's Name

I just wanted to point out that under the "Early Life" section in his article, his Dad's name is incorrectly reported. His name is Sanderson Charles Jeter (http://www.mlb.com/players/jeter_derek/news/article.jsp?story=07102006_news)

Q: Who were you named after? If you were you named after the hockey player Derek Sanderson, who was the hockey fan in your family? -- Tony V., Deer Park, N.Y.

Derek: Actually, I was named after my father, Sanderson Charles Jeter.

As of now the article reads "His father, Dr. Anderson Charles Jeter..."

This is a really easy thing to fix, but this is the first time I've commented on an error, and I don't know what to do to fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MMart (talk • contribs) 04:29, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for pointing that out. I know it was correct when I got this article to good article status, but somebody messed with it at some point. I've corrected it. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

New Contract

Jeter has signed a new three year, $51 million contract with the Yankees. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.218.120 (talk) 15:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

No, he has agreed to a new three year deal. We wait until all aspects of the deal have been finalized and the deal is officially announced. --Muboshgu (talk) 15:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Derek Jeter batting stance allison.jpg to appear as POTD soon

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Derek Jeter batting stance allison.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on April 2, 2011. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2011-04-02. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng {chat} 17:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Picture of the day

Derek Jeter is an American baseball player for the New York Yankees. He plays shortstop and has been the team captain since 2003. Jeter debuted in the Major Leagues in 1995, and the following year he won the Rookie of the Year Award. In 2000, Jeter became the only player in history to win both the All-Star Game MVP Award and the World Series MVP Award in the same year. In addition, he is a multiple winner of the Silver Slugger and Gold Glove awards, and is the all-time hit leader for the Yankees.Photo: Keith Allison

Sweet. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:13, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Ian O'Connor Book: "THE CAPTAIN: The Journey of Derek Jeter"

Where should this be mentioned in the article? Maybe the legacy or achievement section? Arnabdas (talk) 15:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Add whatever you can wherever you can, with attribution. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:47, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Moboshgu, I know how to edit wikipedia. I was just trying to get input from editors on where they think adding the book mention would be a good place. Arnabdas (talk) 15:12, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

So then you should know to add details where they're appropriate. Do you have a copy? – Muboshgu (talk) 02:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Slease42, 7 May 2011

derek jeter now has 2954 hits

Slease42 (talk) 21:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

 Not done reliable source? CTJF83 22:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

This is a good reliable source. MLB.com. It's usually updated daily. –BuickCenturyDriver 02:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Jeter hits

Jeter now has 2968 hits. He also has 1147 RBI's —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yankeeman120 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

You have a point that we should be doing more frequent stat updates on this page as he approaches the 3000 hit milestone (see everybody, I'm not just anti-stat updates). I'll get on that, make those fixes I've been meaning to make, and have this up for a FA review by the time he reaches 3000. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Ian O'Connor's, "The Captain: The Journey of Derek Jeter."

Does anyone have a copy of this? Willing to help work on adding some key excerpts to help strengthen this page? It's one of the last things I want to add before I nominate for featured article status. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:06, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Seriously Important?

What is the purpose of mentioning the race of Jeter's parents? Would this be mentioned if both parents were black or if both were white? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris1emt (talk • contribs) 00:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Statistics Error: On-Base Percentage listed as On-base Plus Slugging

Jeter's career OPS is obviously not .383--that is his On-Base Percentage. The MLB site lists his OPS as .832. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpucino (talk • contribs) 18:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done You're right. An OPS of .383 is pretty bad, and not very Jeterian. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from T3hrasterbator, 9 July 2011

I am requesting an edit to Derek Jeter's career statistics for the 2011 MLB season to update them as of July 9th, 2011 and to include the 3000th hit today, July 9th, 2011 at 2:03 PM. This hit was a home run as well.

T3hrasterbator (talk) 18:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Will do. This is a big day for Jeter so it should be updated post haste. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=116539 The first video I saw on this site was the 3000th hit/3rd HR of Jeter's career/season, respectively

We'll see about adding the link to the video. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

3,000 Hits

Derek Jeter became the 28th member of the elite 3,000 hit club on Saturday July 9th, 2011. The milestone hit was a solo home run, it came in the bottom of the third inning off Tampa Bay Rays pitcher, David Price, on a full count. Previously the only other player to homer for his 3,000th hit was former teammate Wade Boggs who accomplished the feat in 1999 for the then Tampa Bay Devil Rays.