Talk:Toilet

Edit request from 203.87.178.22, 16 October 2010

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WC The WC refers to the initial letters of Water Closet, used commonly in France (pronounced "le vay-say" or "le vater"), Romania (pronounced "veh-cheu") and Hungary (pronounced "vey-tsay"). The term is also used in the Netherlands (pronounced "waysay"), Germany (pronounced "ve-tse"), Denmark (pronounced "ve-se"), and Norway (pronounced "vay-say") [Pronunciation incorrect for norway, I'm a norwegian and we dont pronounce it "vay-say" in the official dialect, there may be some minor dialect that pronounce it that way.. But for the official dialects Bokmål and Nynorsk its pronounced "ve-se" (norwegian pronunciation of "VC") ] and Poland (pronounced "vu-tse"). WC, despite being an English language abbreviation widely used internationally, is a term not in common use in English-speaking countries like the United Kingdom or the United States.

[Pronunciation incorrect for norway, I'm a norwegian and we don't pronounce it "vay-say" in the official dialect, there may be some minor dialect that pronounce it that way. But for the official dialects Bokmål and Nynorsk its pronounced "ve-se" (norwegian pronunciation of "VC") ]

To attempt to describe the pronunciation it's more like Vae-Sae in the best way I can describe it without actually recording it.. hehe.. Feel free to contact me if this is confusing..

mail: lars.rones@gmail.com Norwegian pronunciation of WC is wrong. Should be like the Danish ve-se. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.71.89.63 (talk) 21:37, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

203.87.178.22 (talk) 06:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: You'd need a reliable source for that change, personal experience is not verifiable. The existing content should be sourced as well, so I'll add a {{fact}} tag to that section. Celestra (talk) 13:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

The world "Toilet"

As I was talking to some friends about different words used in reference to the bathroom.. such as "water closet", "latrine" and "lavitory", I suddenly wondered where the word came from and I figured if anyone would have an explanation Wikipedia would. Imagine my surprise, however, when I didn't find a single reference to the word itself in the entire article. Unless I've missed it of course, since this is a rather large article, and I suppose it is possible. But if it really isn't in here, why isn't it in here?--Dakmordian (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Bog

Someone needs to add Bog into the Etymology section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.112.234 (talk) 20:06, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

There should be a new sub-heading to reflect the enormous role the public lavatory has had on male homosexual culture. Both Herdt (1993) and Feldman (2010) mention the use of the public lavatory in the UK, USA and similar cultures as having provided, through the years until homosexuality was decriminalised, the only means for many gay males to meet. Humphreys in his early work on this subject - Tearoom Trade (1975) - covers the distinct and energetic culture of homosexuality and public lavatories. This sub-heading should perhaps read "the lavatory in sub-cultures" and could then also be used to address issues such as drugs, homelessness and prostitution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlie1966 (talk • contribs) 11:09, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Extra info from an ex limey

toilets is were you wash your hands with —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.239.192 (talk) 08:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I applaud the editors, who I think are all American, for allowing other country’s views to be applied to this forum. However, changes to one article should be reflected into other compatible ones.

This is a serious input of mine about TOILETS. I understand your requirement for references (re Edit request from 203.87.178.22 …, Not done). A few points re the article and discussion. Oh, and I’m also over 60.

1) Spend a penny. In my early youth in Britain, to ‘Spend a penny’ meant you had to put a penny into the slot of the door mechanism (which kept it) before you could use a WC. Note, not a urinal. Thus, even to pee, a woman had to ‘spend a penny’.

2) Flush water usage. I believe a company called Caroma in Australia invented a 4.5/3 litre dual flush toilet. I refer to your article on ‘Caroma’. I had one installed a few years ago. The Caroma article had one flaw, this cistern can ONLY be used with the appropriate pan that has been specifically designed for this cistern.

3) Gender and public toilets. Nowhere do you mention the toilets of Europe where male and female enter the same facility. There is a cordoned-off urinal for men and shared WC’s for both men and women (sorry, yank speak: guys, obviously you’re all of the same sex). There is also no mention of the days (it might still happen today) when you went to a pub (bar) and going to the toilet involved paying a lady some money to do so. A true experience of mine. In a pub’s toilet in Brussels, I was ‘doing my business’ at the urinal and I talked to the girl I was with who was waiting in a line of females standing behind me who wanted to use the two WC’s. Your ‘Gender-neutral toilet’ article needs to be changed so it’s not so Yank orientated (Note: Toilet is different from a Restroom).

4) Toilets/Discussion/Images. Images of the same sort of thing are superfluous. However, a picture is worth a thousand words. Please stop using the American ‘Restroom’ and change ‘This public restroom’ to ‘The blue light’.

5) Japanese toilets. Uses lots of water. Heated seats. I’ve used them. What a waste of water and power. Totally useless in a dry country like Australia.

6) How toilet cisterns work. Automatic flushing used to be employed by allowing the water to fill-up an internal siphon so that when full, the cistern would empty on its own. Molbrum (talk) 13:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

A nice update there ex-Limey. Have to agree with a lot of it based on growing up in Australia in the 1950s. I will always recall that fine piece of toilet graffiti....

Here I sit

Broken hearted

Paid a penny and only farted

Very evocative. And demonstrates perfectly that the penny was only required for sitting activities.

We have an article on the dual flush toilet. Yes the cistern and pan need to be matched for full effectiveness, but they do save water. Holidaying in the USA a couple of years ago I instantly recognised some such systems in use at Grand Canyon Village which serves the Grand Canyon National Park, and has it's closest significant water supply a mile vertically below it. So Americans have begun to discover them. HiLo48 (talk) 01:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request for Recent investment in Toilet Technology by Bill Gates

Reference - Kristi Heim (2011-07-19). "Gates money, best minds put to work 'reinventing' toilet". seattletimes.nwsource.com. The Seattle Times. Retrieved 2011-07-19. Bill Gates is turning his penchant for cutting-edge invention on the most unglamorous of devices: the toilet. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is launching a program Tuesday aimed at reinventing the toilet," and providing $42 million in grants to create and test new approaches to improve sanitation in the developing world. The projects were being announced at a conference in Rwanda. {{cite web}}: Check |authorlink= value (help); External link in |authorlink= (help); Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help).98.82.80.189 (talk) 23:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

mechanics

The mechanics of a toilet are quite simple, including the lid there are 8 main components to a flush toilet. Out of those only 4 of the 7 have a mechanical role. Out of the five replaceable parts only three are vital to the effective operation of the toilet, the flapper,the fill valve, and the wax ring. The other parts which are repairable are the seat and the flush arm. the remainig parts that are NOT repairable are the ceramic pieces, the bowl, the tank, and the lid. 
The toilet operates using the energy produced by gravity. Water in the bowl is maintained at a level equal to the lowest point in the P-trap. The P-trap is the name given to devices and designs in plumbing associated with blocking a plumbed route with water. BY doing this two things are accomplished in the function of the toilet. 1. Prevents methane gas and odor from escaping through the toilet into the area where the toilet is located. 2. Creates a level that water must reach before it can escape into the sewer system. Thus creating the ever present water in the bowl. In order to activate the flush, the tank which usually sits on top, or some other source of water must be called to the bowl. In a common household toilet this can be done by pressing the FLUSH ARM. The flush arm is connected to a Flapper. Flappers have the job of blocking the exit from the tank to the bowl. 
In operation. The flush arm is pressed the chain lifts the flapper and water from the tank is released rapidly into the bowl bringing the level above the low point in the ptrap. If the proper amount of water enters the bowl the evacution of water over the p-trap creates a vaccuum drawing all the contents of the bowl up and over the p trap until the seal is comprimised and the Flush is acheived. After the tank has emptied the flapper falls back into position and the tank fills to a level that is established by adjusting the FILL VALVE. The fill valve is the part that connects to a supply line and has a limit switch as a part of its construction. When the desired water level is reached the limit switch is activated and water flow is ceased. The toilet is then ready to operate again.

Reverofevil (talk) 16:35, 29 July 2011 (UTC)