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It's one revert for 24 hours right? More than 24 hours relapsed - so there's no violation. Right? Now, as for the accusation that I've used "anonymizing socks" or whatever, I invite any admin on Wikipedia to look up my technical details (if they have that facility) to verify that I haven't been using any additional computers. I have nothing to to with those 174. IP edits. Either they are just someone who agrees with me, or, judging my AnonMoos evidently unstable temperament, probably him trying to set me up so he could file this frivolous Enforcement Request. Will he be punished for this? [[User:JerryDavid89|JerryDavid89]] ([[User talk:JerryDavid89|talk]]) 06:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC) |
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For all other problems, including content disagreements or the enforcement of community-imposed sanctions, please use the other fora described in the dispute resolution process. To appeal Arbitration Committee decisions, please use the clarification and amendment noticeboard. Only autoconfirmed users may file enforcement requests here; requests filed by IPs or accounts less than four days old or with less than 10 edits will be removed. All users are welcome to comment on requests except where doing so would violate an active restriction (such as an extended-confirmed restriction). If you make an enforcement request or comment on a request, your own conduct may be examined as well, and you may be sanctioned for it. Enforcement requests and statements in response to them may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. (Word Count Tool) Statements must be made in separate sections. Non-compliant contributions may be removed or shortened by administrators. Disruptive contributions such as personal attacks, or groundless or vexatious complaints, may result in blocks or other sanctions. To make an enforcement request, click on the link above this box and supply all required information. Incomplete requests may be ignored. Requests reporting diffs older than one week may be declined as stale. To appeal a contentious topic restriction or other enforcement decision, please create a new section and use the template {{Arbitration enforcement appeal}}.
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NickCT
Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Request concerning NickCT
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- —Biosketch (talk) 07:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- NickCT (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- WP:ARBPIA#Decorum/WP:ARBPIA#Editors_reminded
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 12 July – editor accuses me of being "a committed Israel-Palestine POV warrior," with no accompanying evidence
- 13 July – editor repeats the accusation, again with no accompanying evidence.
- 15 July – editor accuses me of concealing previous accounts, with no accompanying evidence.
- Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)
- Blocked on 21 December 2009 by Ged UK (talk · contribs) for harassment
- Notified on 2 March 2010 by PhilKnight (talk · contribs) of ARBPIA ruling
- Blocked on 27 May 2010 by PhilKnight (talk · contribs) for personal attacks
- Enforcement action requested
Topic ban for a duration of one week to one month, per escalation from previous.
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
For the past month or so I've been having to put up with increasingly hostile and personally oriented rhetoric directed against me by editors in the I/P topic area. When at this very Noticeboard Tarc (talk · contribs) thrice accused me of sockpuppetry without citing a single diff as required per WP:NPA#WHATIS, I let it slide. After Nableezy (talk · contribs) attributed to me a batshit insane obsession with his edits for two edits I made, he redacted and I accepted. More recently, Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) called me an ass on his Talk page for trying to engage him in a calm one-on-one discussion; but he too struck the remark per my request and the matter has more-or-less been settled. NickCT (talk · contribs), on the other hand, not only called me "a committed Israel-Palestine POV warrior" without any evidence, but into the bargain has been repeatedly suggesting that I'm a sockpuppet or hiding previous user accounts, also without any evidence. I insisted that he withdraw his original comment or substantiate it in three different places to avoid creating a scene – but to no avail.
If people have a problem with my edits in I/P or have gotten into their heads that I'm a sockpuppet, it doesn't excuse attacks against me that violate WP:NPA and WP:ARBPIA#Decorum/WP:ARBPIA#Editors_reminded. I understand Decorum isn't as strictly enforced as other ARBIA principles are, but specifically in the case of User:NickCT, he has been sanctioned here before for his hostile interactions with editors he disagrees with in I/P, so either he genuinely doesn't understand what these policies entail, or else he's incapable of abiding by them. Either way, considering the perpetually tense atmosphere at I/P and NickCT's problematic conduct in the topic area in the past, I am requesting enforcement in this case. Every other means of reaching an understanding with this user has been exhausted in vain.
Appendix: In anticipation of the some of the comments likely to follow, I offer these preformulated responses. It isn't essential that the Admins considering my request read them.
- "This is a frivolous request, only one attack." First of all, it wasn't one attack. The first time he attacked me, I templated his remark with Template:RPA, but he removed the Template and reiterated his attack. Later, when I tried in the gentlest way possible to communicate to him the problem with his remark, his response was to attribute bad-faith motives both to my initial comment on User:Malik Shabazz's Talk page and to my comment on his own Talk page. And then, when I took the matter to WP:WQA for community input, he began with his string of allegations that I'm a sockpuppet. These aren't frivolous attacks. They are textbook personal attacks against me relating to an active-arbitration topic area, without evidence to back them up and serving only to discredit me and disrupt my interactions with other contributors. Secondly, the pattern of recurring personal attacks doesn't need to be established by my diffs alone. It is already established by his block log.
- "AEs should not be filed against editors one is in conflict with." The response to that is simple. NickCT and I weren't in conflict anywhere in the Project; indeed, as far as I know, this was only the second time he and I ever crossed paths.
- "If all these people are attacking you, maybe you're the problem and not them." I'm open to criticism relating to how I edit, as anyone who contributes regularly to I/P should be. I'm also aware of WP:BOOMERANG. If someone's convinced there's a case to be made that my edits are a problem in I/P, let them make it like through the appropriate channels. Otherwise, shifting the blame onto me and making ad hominem remarks in my regard is counterproductive and needs to be identified for what it is – a sordid red herring. This is an AE about NickCT. Any comments not directly relating to that user and his remarks toward me don't belong here.
- "This isn't within the purview of AE." The language and context of the attack make it related to the Arab-Israel conflict, broadly construed. If this were an I/P-banned editor, he would not be allowed to attack another contributor as "a committed Israel-Palestine POV warrior." Furthermore, NickCT was sanctioned at AE before for similar infractions.—Biosketch (talk) 07:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
- In reference to the forum shopping charge, that's an exceedingly slanted interpretation of what led to this AE. It says at the top of this page, "ArbCom decisions are the last stop of dispute resolution." Had I come here immediately following the I/P-related personal attack, it might have been considered impulsive and premature. Instead, I tried resolving the incident where it initially took place; then I tried at the editor's Talk page; and then I tried at WQA. So I think I followed procedure to the letter and even showed more restraint than other people in similar situations have.
- Additionally, in coming here I also relied on the comments of several Admins in good standing, which indicated that personal attacks are sanctionable at AE – for example, Gatoclass (talk · contribs), "Speaking of which, gratuitous comments on contributor are sanctionable in this topic area, so I strongly suggest you avoid making them", and Zero0000 (talk · contribs), This is your only warning, next time I'm filing a report, who rebuked editors for remarks that were far less severe than what I endured.
- Lastly, regarding the wikilawyering charge, that's also detached from reality. WP:NPA is unequivocal: "Serious accusations require serious evidence" (emphasis added). And WP:ARBPIA ruled, "Unseemly conduct, such as personal attacks, incivility, assumptions of bad faith, trolling, harassment, disruptive point-making, and gaming the system, is prohibited." It could not have been stated any more clearly than that.—Biosketch (talk) 05:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
Notified at user's Talk page: "You have demonstrated to me that you either do not understand WP:NPA or do not see yourself as needing to comply with it. I have requested enforcement of ARBPIA rulings against you here."
Discussion concerning NickCT
Statement by NickCT
Not sure how seriously I should take this, so I'll just make several quick points -
- 1) People should probably review this conversation as example of the kind of complaints Biosketch seems to have a penchant for.
- 2) re "repeatedly suggesting that I'm a sockpuppet" - I never suggested Biosketch was a sock. I suggested he had an account previous to his current account, which he almost certainly has had and additionally, has made no attempt to deny. I explained the difference between those two things here. I'm not sure why he repeatedly mischaracterizes my comments.
- 3) Bio initially filed a Wikiquette complaint for the material above, which didn't seem to gather any momentum. He seems to be going to multiple places now trying to get someone to agree and act on his complaints. As such, I think AE request could justifiably be called forum shopping.
- 4) Biosketch really represents the worst of the Israel-Palestine wikilawyers. This kind of "throw some accusations around and see what sticks" tactics has got to stop. It's a waste of time, and distracts from WP's core mission. I think a clear message could be sent here with some punitive anti-wikilawyering measures.
Thanks, NickCT (talk) 12:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning NickCT
Result concerning NickCT
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.
- So...I take it that no one is willing to sanction NickCT then? NW (Talk) 05:10, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Matthead
Blocked for one week. T. Canens (talk) 07:11, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
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Request concerning Matthead
Warning and short block.
Matthead has been banned from editing Polish related topics due to : habitually engaging in battleground-like conduct related to nationalist issues involving Poland and Germany" from "from the topic of Poland and Poles, broadly construed. For the avoidance of doubt, the topic includes subjects which are or were only partially Polish, or whose Polishness is disputed (by you or others), and the ban includes all articles, other pages, parts of pages and discussions related to the topic" Recently it seems Matthead started to try to edit Polish related information on Wiki. While the first edit was small(although violating the ban), the second indicated return to his old ways, by including the removal of information regarding presence of Polish minority in Germany and its anti-Nazi resistance movement during Second World War and concealing that removal in edit summary--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC) Discussion concerning MattheadStatement by MattheadComments by others about the request concerning MattheadResult concerning Matthead
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JerryDavid89
Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Request concerning JerryDavid89
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- AnonMoos (talk) 06:12, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- JerryDavid89 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Wikipedia:ARBPIA#General_1RR_restriction
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 05:29, 31 July 2011 Re-adding sentence which was a controversy magnet, and which the editors involved in editing the article who have expressed an opinion on the matter have decided is not useful in that form in that place in the article.
- 06:24, 30 July 2011 Re-adding sentence which was a controversy magnet, and which the editors involved in editing the article who have expressed an opinion on the matter have decided is not useful in that form in that place in the article.
- Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)
- Warned on 29 July 2011 by Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs)
- Warned on 07:26, 26 July 2011 by Zero0000 (talk · contribs)
- Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)
Anything that will get him to finally pay some attention, and stop ignoring what other people have been telling him.
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
Also resorted to anonymous IP socks to get get his precious sentence into the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine article (as can be seen from the article history), which takes it far beyond 1RR.
See also Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Personal_attacks.2C_bad-faith_and_slow_edit-warring
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
Discussion concerning USERNAME
Statement by JerryDavid89
It's one revert for 24 hours right? More than 24 hours relapsed - so there's no violation. Right? Now, as for the accusation that I've used "anonymizing socks" or whatever, I invite any admin on Wikipedia to look up my technical details (if they have that facility) to verify that I haven't been using any additional computers. I have nothing to to with those 174. IP edits. Either they are just someone who agrees with me, or, judging my AnonMoos evidently unstable temperament, probably him trying to set me up so he could file this frivolous Enforcement Request. Will he be punished for this? JerryDavid89 (talk) 06:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning USERNAME
Result concerning USERNAME
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.