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:[fleischbox] they are an organization that likes to disrupt musical events |
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::Antifas are no organisation in particular, but people who criticize and sometimes act against fascism or (what they regard as) fascistoid tendencies from a left-wing point of view. Of course, there are some organistions that are anti-fascistic. And, surely, they don't just "like to disrupt" musical events, but rather organise, say, demonstrations against what they might see as a dangerous aesthetisation of fascistoid tendencies in dark music genres, by which groups of the extremistic right are trying to influence listeners of dark / "gothic" music and to recruit new followers (as on the [[Wave Gotik Treffen]] in [[Leipzig]] for some years now). Everything in its own place ... ;-) -- [[User:85.182.75.53|85.182.75.53]] 22:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC) [[:de:Benutzer:marilyn.hanson]] |
::Antifas are no organisation in particular, but people who criticize and sometimes act against fascism or (what they regard as) fascistoid tendencies from a left-wing point of view. Of course, there are some organistions that are anti-fascistic. And, surely, they don't just "like to disrupt" musical events, but rather organise, say, demonstrations against what they might see as a dangerous aesthetisation of fascistoid tendencies in dark music genres, by which groups of the extremistic right are trying to influence listeners of dark / "gothic" music and to recruit new followers (as on the [[Wave Gotik Treffen]] in [[Leipzig]] for some years now). Everything in its own place ... ;-) -- [[User:85.182.75.53|85.182.75.53]] 22:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC) [[:de:Benutzer:marilyn.hanson]] |
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:::Such groups are well known to use bomb threats, physical violence and other means of forceful [[censorship]] to promote their agendas. Notable cases include whenever [[Blood Axis]] attempts to play in the United States and various incidents involving [[Death In June]] (Examples: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ |
:::Such groups are well known to use bomb threats, physical violence and other means of forceful [[censorship]] to promote their agendas. Notable cases include whenever [[Blood Axis]] attempts to play in the United States and various incidents involving [[Death In June]] (Examples: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_In_June#Controversy]) not being able to take the stage. These groups are often not interested in dialogue ''or'' facts - which they make pretty clear - and I'm not aware of a single artist in either genre that openly attempts to ''recruit'' people into any sort of ideology. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] 01:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC) |
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Vandalism
This page has seen a lot of vandalism lately for some reason. Please fix it if you see it. - Bloodofox, 8.10.05
Antifa
- [fleischbox] Anti Fascists
- [fleischbox] they are an organization that likes to disrupt musical events
- Antifas are no organisation in particular, but people who criticize and sometimes act against fascism or (what they regard as) fascistoid tendencies from a left-wing point of view. Of course, there are some organistions that are anti-fascistic. And, surely, they don't just "like to disrupt" musical events, but rather organise, say, demonstrations against what they might see as a dangerous aesthetisation of fascistoid tendencies in dark music genres, by which groups of the extremistic right are trying to influence listeners of dark / "gothic" music and to recruit new followers (as on the Wave Gotik Treffen in Leipzig for some years now). Everything in its own place ... ;-) -- 85.182.75.53 22:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC) de:Benutzer:marilyn.hanson
- Such groups are well known to use bomb threats, physical violence and other means of forceful censorship to promote their agendas. Notable cases include whenever Blood Axis attempts to play in the United States and various incidents involving Death In June (Examples: [1]) not being able to take the stage. These groups are often not interested in dialogue or facts - which they make pretty clear - and I'm not aware of a single artist in either genre that openly attempts to recruit people into any sort of ideology. :bloodofox: 01:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- Antifas are no organisation in particular, but people who criticize and sometimes act against fascism or (what they regard as) fascistoid tendencies from a left-wing point of view. Of course, there are some organistions that are anti-fascistic. And, surely, they don't just "like to disrupt" musical events, but rather organise, say, demonstrations against what they might see as a dangerous aesthetisation of fascistoid tendencies in dark music genres, by which groups of the extremistic right are trying to influence listeners of dark / "gothic" music and to recruit new followers (as on the Wave Gotik Treffen in Leipzig for some years now). Everything in its own place ... ;-) -- 85.182.75.53 22:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC) de:Benutzer:marilyn.hanson
NPOV
the origins part is soooo not npov atm, and the description of the music needs to be put at the put and given it's own heading. --MilkMiruku 08:54, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
- I think we've taken care of this, thank you for your edits and please continue. --Bloodofox 04:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)