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Waya sahoni

I do not understand the reasons anyone would want to block Waya sahoni. It seems there are users that are clearly out to get him. Why? --Bookofsecrets 04:29, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Is Wikipedia ran by residents of bedlam? You decide. --Bookofsecrets 04:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• I wrote a note to the admin who blocked Waya sahoni asking him to reconsider. I don't know if that admin was aware of the pending arbitration before he blocked the account. The statements and threats made by Waya sahoni after being blocked will make it very difficult to convince any admin to unblock him. I personally believe that his behavior warrants a permanent ban, but only after he is given a fair hearing. — MediaMangler 05:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Where did he make these threats? I have not seen them. Please point them out. --Bookofsecrets 05:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• On his talk page he demands that certain images be removed because he "clearly didn't have permission to post any of it here. I will have to notify them immediately that their materials are being used on WP without proper permission." He admits to having violated someone else's copyright and is now threatening Wiki with the consequences of his own deliberate violation. Very few admins will have much sympathy for an editor who has admitted his purpose here was to plant materials on Wiki in violation of copyright. Assuming, that is, that he is telling the truth about the copyright status of the images. — MediaMangler 05:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Okay. I'd read that on his talkpage. After private conversations with him via email I took those comments as letting off steam. I have no idea of your cultural background, but we Cherokee, sometimes, can have a terrible time controlling our tempers. I'm not saying he is right or he is wrong. I'm merely stating that I felt he was venting, nothing more and nothing less. --Bookofsecrets 05:45, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't this strike you as a copout? Grown men who can't control their anger long enough to *not* threaten someone with a lawsuit when things don't go their way? Vigilant 05:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• I'd only say that he typed while angry. I've been guilty of that myself. Let those who have not sinned cast the first stone. --Bookofsecrets 05:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I type while angry all the time, I just don't threaten the targets of my anger with federal lawsuits. Vigilant 06:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Maybe you have better control of your passions than others do. If so, congradulations! Not everyone is gifted with that. I know I'm surely not. I'm plain spoken and have been known to be a real hot-head. I envy you if you do have your temper under control. --Bookofsecrets 06:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

This is your buddy "Waya sahoni" aka Jeffrey Vernon Merkey in full song

"Its how they operate. They whore people through the site and rip them off, then when they are done with you, they cast you away. What do you expect? Wales is a porn dealer, that's where his money comes from. You really think these people are any different. They don't even follow their own policies. Waya sahoni 04:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)"

(Actually, this is a little mild for Merkey).

Go look for yourself.

He duped you with flattery. He's a manipulator. You have quite a bit of thinking to do, and hopefully some learning as well. -- talks_to_birds 05:43, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• No One has given me solid proof that Waya sahoni is Merkey. He was assisting me in learning a few things about my heritage. I don't know anything about you. Who are you? I'm not angry, but I'm excessively curious as to who you are and why you are an authority on this Merkey character and why you are so convinced that he and Way sahoni are one in the same? --Bookofsecrets 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't these seem awfully similar to each other?

[1] "Its how they operate. They whore people through the site and rip them off, then when they are done with you, they cast you away. What do you expect? Wales is a porn dealer, that's where his money comes from. You really think these people are any different. They don't even follow their own policies"

[2], "Jimbo Wales, This individual is a profuse liar and Intellectual Property Thief. He steals and distributes copyrighted materials from numerous publications and websites, and massages it into his pornographic search engines, bomis.com and wikipedia.org. He currently operates a porno distribution business over the internet and wikipedia.org, the online encyclopedia, which distributes pornography over the internet. Mr. Wales has been accussed of hate crimes by several religious organizations. Several FOSS members have alleged Wales uses libel as a tool to garner favor with hi tech millionaires in Silicon Valley by attacking their enemies and the competitors of their interests through his wikipedia.org website. Wales claims he is an "internet luminary" by virtue of his porno business and wholesale copyright infringement and IP theft over the internet. He is not listed as the creator of any technology which would warrant such a title at the uspto.gov website."

Vigilant 05:49, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, do you have any idea why Waya sahoni was blocked? I'll remain anonymous for now, reply here if you want.

• Various wikipedians were constantly accusing him of being Jeff Merkey. He constantly told them they were mistaken in his identity. Then he was working on an article concerning Joe Byrd (Cherokee Chief) and it had gotten to be a hot topic with many disputes. Regardless of what proof or citations he presented they were not seemingly good enough. I had attempted to assist in the citations of that same article. So I feel it is a personal vendetta. --Bookofsecrets 05:30, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• My guess is that people with some ability to actually look at substantive facts read "Waya sahoni's" posts, compared them with Merkey's, did some checking of IP addresses, and realized that "Waya sahoni" is in fact Jeffrey Vernon Merkey -- something which many of us have said for a long time.

• Merkey was blocked as User:Gadugi. Creating a sockpuppet of yourself when you are already blocked is not tolerated here. "Waya sahoni" simply called too much attention to himself with his behavior (once again...) and blew his cover.

• *Poof!* He's gone... -- talks_to_birds 05:50, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Talks to birds. You are awlfully sure of yourself, aren't you? There is an arbitration that is ongoing. --Bookofsecrets 05:59, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• Which Waya/Jeff was sure to lose, which is the reason he tried to withdraw the arbitration request. Anyone with significant envolvement with Linux recognizes Jeff Merkey. Many of us have dealt with him for many years. Some have even had lawsuits brought against them - Which Jeff eventually dropped when it was obvious he was going to lose (sound familiar?). Some of us have been stalked by Jeff with searches of usenet/web for dirt to use against them. Does this sound like a nice man? Believe us... Waya is Jeff and the current verbal explosion on Waya sahoni's page proves it. I'm sorry you've been used, but Jeff is a master at using people. --Jerry (Talk) 06:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• yada yada yada. --Bookofsecrets 06:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• To answer your questions here and above, I was a named defendant in Merkey's lawsuit "Merkey v Perens". You might gain some insight into Merkey's true personality by taking a little while to read some of what he says. He is not a nice person. I learned to recognize Merkey from ten miles away while I was preparing my defense. -- talks_to_birds 06:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bookofsecrets

Hey, it's been great working with you. I will take you into your true culture if you like. I'll setup a Wiki on a server for both of us to do Native American content. Let's just snatch the Ingineous Project materials and place it on this server. It'll be up later tonight at www.wikigadugi.org. Jeff said he will let me use his server since Wikipedia wants us gone. And you are a sysop and so are our friends. All my respect. Waya. Give me a couple of hours. We need a robot to start sucking wp content. W. 67.177.11.32

• host 67.177.11.32

 32.11.177.67.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer c-67-177-11-32.hsd1.ut.comcast.net  --Jerry (Talk) 06:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• You know I desire to learn about my true culture. Sent me the url via my personal email please at MythicWeb. --Bookofsecrets 06:10, 18 March 2006 (UTC)